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AtlCB;1377907 said:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/proof
proof /pruf/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[proof] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth. 2. anything serving as such evidence: What proof do you have?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evidence
ev·i·dence /ˈɛvɪdəns/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ev-i-duhns] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -denced, -denc·ing.
–noun
1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.
2. something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever.
3. Law. data presented to a court or jury in proof of the facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects.

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Quick definitions (evidence)


noun: your basis for belief or disbelief; knowledge on which to base belief (Example: "The evidence that smoking causes lung cancer is very compelling")
noun: an indication that makes something evident (Example: "His trembling was evidence of his fear")
noun: (law) all the means by which any alleged matter of fact whose truth is investigated at judicial trial is established or disproved
verb: give evidence
verb: provide evidence for
verb: provide evidence for; stand as proof of; show by one's behavior, attitude, or external attributes


evidence




ev·i·dence [ évvid'nss ]


noun

Definition:

1. sign or proof: something that gives a sign or proof of the existence or truth of something, or that helps somebody to come to a particular conclusion
There is no evidence that the disease is related to diet.


2. proof of guilt: the objects or information used to prove or suggest the guilt of somebody accused of a crime
The police have no evidence.








evidence

• noun 1 information or signs indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. 2 Law information used to establish facts in a legal investigation or admissible as testimony in a law court.

• verb be or show evidence of.

— PHRASES in evidence noticeable; conspicuous. turn King’s (or Queen’s or US state’s) evidence Law (of a criminal) give information in court against one’s partners in order to receive a less severe punishment.

— ORIGIN Latin evidentia, from evidens ‘obvious to the mind or eye’

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evidence Show phonetics
noun
one or more reasons for believing that something is or is not true:
The police have found no evidence of a terrorist link with the murder.
[+ to infinitive] There is no scientific evidence to suggest that underwater births are dangerous.
[+ that] Is there any scientific evidence that a person's character is reflected in their handwriting?
Several experts are to give evidence on the subject.
There is only circumstantial evidence against her, so she is unlikely to be convicted.
Campaigners now have compelling documentary evidence of the human rights abuses that they had been alleging for several years.
Fresh evidence suggests that the statement had been fabricated.
The traces of petrol found on his clothing provided the forensic evidence proving that he had started the fire deliberately.
All the evidence points to a substantial rise in traffic over the next few years.
There is growing/mounting/increasing evidence that people whose diets are rich in vitamins are less likely to develop some types of cancer.

evidenced Show phonetics
adjective MAINLY US
His desire to win an Olympic medal is evidenced by his performances throughout this season.

(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)



The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

evidence

SYLLABICATION: ev·i·dence
PRONUNCIATION: v-dns
NOUN: 1. A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment: The broken window was evidence that a burglary had taken place. Scientists weigh the evidence for and against a hypothesis. 2. Something indicative; an outward sign: evidence of grief on a mourner's face. 3. Law The documentary or oral statements and the material objects admissible as testimony in a court of law.
TRANSITIVE VERB: Inflected forms: ev·i·denced, ev·i·denc·ing, ev·i·denc·es
1. To indicate clearly; exemplify or prove. 2. To support by testimony; attest.
IDIOM: in evidence 1. Plainly visible; to be seen: It was early, and few pedestrians were in evidence on the city streets. 2. Law As legal evidence: submitted the photograph in evidence.
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English, from Old French, from Late Latin videntia, from Latin vidns, vident-, obvious. See evident.


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evidence
information, etc that gives grounds for belief; that which points to, reveals or suggests something.

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written or spoken testimony used in a court of law.

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Anyone can simply pick the meanings of words that support ones Agenda, as you seem wont to do. I can go on and on with this to show you that there are many dictionaries that show that evidence is NOT empirical proof. As Hostile said earlier, all proof is evidence, but what I have been saying is also true - not all evidence is proof.

Now, I repeat what I have said, and I urge you to take some of these other meanings of "evidence" that I have presented here into account:

I did not set out to provide proof. I was not asked to provide proof. I was asked to provide "any evidence". I have repeatedly done so. Just because one or more of you choose to disregard the evidence presented is immaterial. Evidence has been submitted. That is all I set out to do. I have successfully completed that task. In spite of denials to the contrary.
 

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LOL

I can't resist. Sorry.

What is the difference between "circumstantial" evidence and "direct" evidence?

I haven't seen any "direct" evidence. I have seen a lot of "circumstantial" evidence.

"Direct" evidence I would take as the seeds of proof.

"Circumstantial" evidence is good for conspiracy theories. You can infer a conclusion from them, but you cannot prove a conclusion.

I haven't split that many hairs since I had long hair and went camping for a week with no place for a bath.
 

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StanleySpadowski;1377906 said:
I quoted your post exactly. If you have a problem with someone taking issue with something stupid you've written, don't write stupid things rather than accuse others of misinterpreting your exact words.

I also doubt you like to get in a semantics debate over evidence versus proof and their colloquial usages.


In the end, no one this side of Phillips and Jones knows the type of power that Phillips will wield.

I am not accusing anyone of misinterpreting my words. I am accusing people of misquoting my words. I was told that I said that Wade was jerry's puppet. I defy anyone to find that post and repost it. If it can't be done, then those people need to just **** about it. They obviously misread what they thought they read. It's that simple. If they are correct, then it is a simple thing to repost the post that I wrote "Wade is Jerry's puppet" in. Just do it and end this idiotic agenda some of you have taken on. As soon as that post is reposted by one of you, I'll bow out.

I also doubt you would care to get into a debate on lies versus truth either. It is a lie that I said "Wade is Jerry's puppet".
 

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randy932;1377986 said:
I am not accusing anyone of misinterpreting my words. I am accusing people of misquoting my words. I was told that I said that Wade was jerry's puppet. I defy anyone to find that post and repost it. If it can't be done, then those people need to just **** about it. They obviously misread what they thought they read. It's that simple. If they are correct, then it is a simple thing to repost the post that I wrote "Wade is Jerry's puppet" in. Just do it and end this idiotic agenda some of you have taken on. As soon as that post is reposted by one of you, I'll bow out.

I also doubt you would care to get into a debate on lies versus truth either. It is a lie that I said "Wade is Jerry's puppet".
You got that backwards. You're not saying anyone is mis-quoting you, just not interpretting what you are saying as you mean it.
 

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Hostile;1377988 said:
You got that backwards. You're not saying anyone is mis-quoting you, just not interpretting what you are saying as you mean it.

Nope. I meant exactly what I said. I definitely did not say Wade would be Jerry's puppet. I also never said a word about Campo either, nor did I compare Wade to Campo.
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Originally Posted by zrinkill
Wade has a Winning record as a head coach ...... and did much better than Parcells did with Dallas.

To compare Wade Phillips with Dave Campo is an insult to his experience and record. Wade has been fired from jobs before because he would not yield to the Gm's demands ...... to say he will be Jerry's puppet is very stupid.
 

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randy932;1377926 said:
Yeah, with you, I can tell it is all about you finding an opinion you don't like, and then posting lies about what was actually posted.

BTW - my opinion is just as valid as the next guys, and as valid as yours. I just won't lie about what you post, whereas you do do it freely.

I have asked you repeatedly to repost where I said what you claim. You can't do it, yet you continue to spew your lies.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:lmao:

I like you already.
 

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Hostile;1377977 said:
LOL

I can't resist. Sorry.

What is the difference between "circumstantial" evidence and "direct" evidence?

I haven't seen any "direct" evidence. I have seen a lot of "circumstantial" evidence.

"Direct" evidence I would take as the seeds of proof.

"Circumstantial" evidence is good for conspiracy theories. You can infer a conclusion from them, but you cannot prove a conclusion.

I haven't split that many hairs since I had long hair and went camping for a week with no place for a bath.

Well, at least we're making a little headway. Nothing was said by you about "circumstantial" or "direct" evidence. No one on this board now has, or will ever have, "direct" evidence, at any time. Therefor, the evidence I have offered is "circumstantial" eveidence, but evidence nonetheless. I left the conlusions to be drawn by each person who reads the evidence I presented.

Yeah, a heck of a lot of hairs split. LOL
 

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randy932;1377986 said:
I am not accusing anyone of misinterpreting my words. I am accusing people of misquoting my words. I was told that I said that Wade was jerry's puppet. I defy anyone to find that post and repost it. If it can't be done, then those people need to just **** about it. They obviously misread what they thought they read. It's that simple. If they are correct, then it is a simple thing to repost the post that I wrote "Wade is Jerry's puppet" in. Just do it and end this idiotic agenda some of you have taken on. As soon as that post is reposted by one of you, I'll bow out.

I also doubt you would care to get into a debate on lies versus truth either. It is a lie that I said "Wade is Jerry's puppet".

Everyone can see what he posted and understand what he was implying ..... this is silly.

Personally I could care less what he thinks :lmao2: but I will call someone out when they say something stupid.
 

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randy932;1378009 said:
Nope. I meant exactly what I said. I definitely did not say Wade would be Jerry's puppet. I also never said a word about Campo either, nor did I compare Wade to Campo.
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Originally Posted by zrinkill
Wade has a Winning record as a head coach ...... and did much better than Parcells did with Dallas.

To compare Wade Phillips with Dave Campo is an insult to his experience and record. Wade has been fired from jobs before because he would not yield to the Gm's demands ...... to say he will be Jerry's puppet is very stupid.
That is not a misquote by him. That is a misinterpretation by him.

You still have it backwards.
 

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randy932;1378015 said:
Well, at least we're making a little headway. Nothing was said by you about "circumstantial" or "direct" evidence. No one on this board now has, or will ever have, "direct" evidence, at any time. Therefor, the evidence I have offered is "circumstantial" eveidence, but evidence nonetheless. I left the conlusions to be drawn by each person who reads the evidence I presented.

Yeah, a heck of a lot of hairs split. LOL
Testimony by Jerry Jones or Wade Phillips would be direct evidence. I believe Jerry has already said Wade's duties are the exact same as Bill's.
 

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VA Cowboy;1378013 said:
:lmao:

I like you already.

And I think I am going to like this board.:D
I just gotta figure out the ones worth spending my time arguing with, and those that aren't. Today has been good, I have already figured out that zrinkill is NOT worth arguing with. If he doesn't like what he hears, he just lies about what he heard.:bang2:
 

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randy932;1378025 said:
And I think I am going to like this board.:D
I just gotta figure out the ones worth spending my time arguing with, and those that aren't. Today has been good, I have already figured out that zrinkill is NOT worth arguing about. If he doesn't like what he hears, he just lies about what he heard.:bang2:


:lmao::lmao2::lmao::lmao2:

You are just angry that you got called out and everyone (with the exception of the VABB members) knows what you meant .....

But if you are really this negative about the Cowboys ..... you and VA will be best buds ......... ;)
 

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Hostile;1378020 said:
Testimony by Jerry Jones or Wade Phillips would be direct evidence. I believe Jerry has already said Wade's duties are the exact same as Bill's.

Ah ah ah. Depending on Jerry's testimony is treading on thin ice. Jerry has indeed said that. He has also said that he (Jerry) will be much more involved in the football operstion than he was when Parcells was here. He can't do that without cutting into some of the areas that Bill controlled, thereby making Wades clout less than Bills. Ya gotta watch what Jerry says, he is a slippery one.
 

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zrinkill;1378029 said:
:lmao::lmao2::lmao::lmao2:

You are just angry that you got called out and everyone (with the exception of the VABB members) knows what you meant .....

But if you are really this negative about the Cowboys ..... you and VA will be best buds ......... ;)

Just goes to show you are incapable of understanding the written word(and perhaps even recognizing it). I said way back somewhere near the beginning of all this that I don't believe that Wade would be a puppet. You chose to ignore it I guess. I am not a negative person toward the Cowboys at all. You just assumed something and then grabbed hold of it like a bulldog and wouldn't let go, even though I pointed out repeatedly that you had your facts wrong. You need to learn to read what was actually said and stop trying to make it into something else. Heck, this whole thing didn't even start out about the Cowboys, remember. It started out about the Chargers interviewing Mike Zimmer. YOU made it into something about the Cowboys. YOU said something about I compared Wade to Campo (where the heck that came from, I have no idea), YOU said that I said that Wade would be Jerry's puppet. I never said such of a thing. If I did, it is easy to prove. Repost that post. Just do it. You can't, cause I didn't, and you know it. Now go improve your mind by running headfirst into a brick wall.
 

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randy932;1377966 said:
Quick definitions (evidence)


noun: your basis for belief or disbelief; knowledge on which to base belief (Example: "The evidence that smoking causes lung cancer is very compelling")
noun: an indication that makes something evident (Example: "His trembling was evidence of his fear")
noun: (law) all the means by which any alleged matter of fact whose truth is investigated at judicial trial is established or disproved
verb: give evidence
verb: provide evidence for
verb: provide evidence for; stand as proof of; show by one's behavior, attitude, or external attributes


evidence




ev·i·dence [ évvid'nss ]


noun

Definition:

1. sign or proof: something that gives a sign or proof of the existence or truth of something, or that helps somebody to come to a particular conclusion
There is no evidence that the disease is related to diet.


2. proof of guilt: the objects or information used to prove or suggest the guilt of somebody accused of a crime
The police have no evidence.








evidence

• noun 1 information or signs indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. 2 Law information used to establish facts in a legal investigation or admissible as testimony in a law court.

• verb be or show evidence of.

— PHRASES in evidence noticeable; conspicuous. turn King’s (or Queen’s or US state’s) evidence Law (of a criminal) give information in court against one’s partners in order to receive a less severe punishment.

— ORIGIN Latin evidentia, from evidens ‘obvious to the mind or eye’

Definition
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evidence Show phonetics
noun
one or more reasons for believing that something is or is not true:
The police have found no evidence of a terrorist link with the murder.
[+ to infinitive] There is no scientific evidence to suggest that underwater births are dangerous.
[+ that] Is there any scientific evidence that a person's character is reflected in their handwriting?
Several experts are to give evidence on the subject.
There is only circumstantial evidence against her, so she is unlikely to be convicted.
Campaigners now have compelling documentary evidence of the human rights abuses that they had been alleging for several years.
Fresh evidence suggests that the statement had been fabricated.
The traces of petrol found on his clothing provided the forensic evidence proving that he had started the fire deliberately.
All the evidence points to a substantial rise in traffic over the next few years.
There is growing/mounting/increasing evidence that people whose diets are rich in vitamins are less likely to develop some types of cancer.

evidenced Show phonetics
adjective MAINLY US
His desire to win an Olympic medal is evidenced by his performances throughout this season.

(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)



The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

evidence

SYLLABICATION: ev·i·dence
PRONUNCIATION: v-dns
NOUN: 1. A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment: The broken window was evidence that a burglary had taken place. Scientists weigh the evidence for and against a hypothesis. 2. Something indicative; an outward sign: evidence of grief on a mourner's face. 3. Law The documentary or oral statements and the material objects admissible as testimony in a court of law.
TRANSITIVE VERB: Inflected forms: ev·i·denced, ev·i·denc·ing, ev·i·denc·es
1. To indicate clearly; exemplify or prove. 2. To support by testimony; attest.
IDIOM: in evidence 1. Plainly visible; to be seen: It was early, and few pedestrians were in evidence on the city streets. 2. Law As legal evidence: submitted the photograph in evidence.
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English, from Old French, from Late Latin videntia, from Latin vidns, vident-, obvious. See evident.


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evidence
information, etc that gives grounds for belief; that which points to, reveals or suggests something.

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evidence
written or spoken testimony used in a court of law.

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Anyone can simply pick the meanings of words that support ones Agenda, as you seem wont to do. I can go on and on with this to show you that there are many dictionaries that show that evidence is NOT empirical proof. As Hostile said earlier, all proof is evidence, but what I have been saying is also true - not all evidence is proof.

Now, I repeat what I have said, and I urge you to take some of these other meanings of "evidence" that I have presented here into account:

I did not set out to provide proof. I was not asked to provide proof. I was asked to provide "any evidence". I have repeatedly done so. Just because one or more of you choose to disregard the evidence presented is immaterial. Evidence has been submitted. That is all I set out to do. I have successfully completed that task. In spite of denials to the contrary.

Websters does not differentiate between the two. Both proof and evidence are facts of something. The only evidence or proof that you offered was that Jerry hired Jason Garrett before he hired Wade Phillips. That statement is a fact. Most of the rest of the stuff you posted were opinions and are not evidence or proof of anything.
 

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zrinkill;1377361 said:
I guarantee that they will not call whoever the Chargers hire a puppet.

randy932;1377363 said:
Then they would be in the wrong. AJ has proven he is in charge there. The coach will have no more input than Wade will here.

zrinkill;1377365 said:
Wade has the same amount of authority as Bill Parcells did.

randy932;1377375 said:
Yeah, okay. I have some ocean front property just east of Omaha, interested?

randy932;1377385 said:
That would not take near the stupidity of believing that Wade has the same amount of authority as Parcells did.

So one more time ..... you were not implying that Wade was the same as the Puppet the Chargers Hire? Pay special attention to the second quote ....
 

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zrinkill;1378050 said:
So one more time ..... you were not implying that Wade was the same as the Puppet the Chargers Hire? Pay special attention to the second quote ....

zrin - people like to say things w/o really saying them, it would seem. when called upon what they're saying, they run, hide, and go EEK and want to then be misunderstood.

but it sure does sound like while he's not directly said "puppet" that *is* what he means. if not, then he can simply explain what he means by those statements and go from there.
 

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randy932;1378025 said:
And I think I am going to like this board.:D
I just gotta figure out the ones worth spending my time arguing with, and those that aren't. Today has been good, I have already figured out that zrinkill is NOT worth arguing with. If he doesn't like what he hears, he just lies about what he heard.:bang2:
I am always worth arguing with if you have a sense of humor. I appreciate the zings both ways. I'm abrasive. Only the really touchy don't like arguing with me.

:D
 

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zrinkill;1378039 said:
I already showed where you implyed it twice ..... I dont need to do it again. just give it up.

LMAO - This whole thread you have been saying I said that Wade would be Jerry's puppet. Ever since the second page. Now, when you are backed into a corner about your lies, you are going to switch it up with the old "you implied" it. No, I said exactly what I meant. I didn't imply nothing. I have adequate command of the English language that I don't need to imply anything. Remember this if you choose to post with me any more in the future. You don't need to look for any hidden meaning when talking with me. I will be blunt, concise, and as unambiguous as I can be. I outgrew that kind of stuff about 45 years ago. And oh yeah, I have been watching pro football since probably before your mother was around, so you can drop the name calling especially where you call me "kid".

Now, let's please just move on.
 
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