Cowboys News & Notes: Possible Destinations For DeMarco Murray

[mahoneybill]

In 1994 at age 25 Emmitt had 450 touches for 1950yds and 25 TDs including the playoffs....Should we re-sign him or let him go????

In 1995 he had 520 touches for 2500 yds and 31 TDs.....Super Bowl

1996 420 touches 1680 yds 17 TDs..what a let down

Last year at age 26 Murray had 500 touches for 2500 yds and 15 TDs........What should we do????

Thanks for the stats. In todays quick conclusion world we often don't get the data to make a comparison. Sure every person is different, and their body will react differently but it's nice to know we have seen people handle heavy loads for multiple years.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

And WR offers no better value or predictability. They are just as unreliable as RBs. If you look at the top 15 WR contracts most are huge overpays. Last year showed that it is just as easy to draft WRs that can step right in. SEA got lucky with Wilson and Sherman, but they failed badly with Matt Flynn, SRice, PHarvin and ZMiller. Contract mistakes don't have to be deadly if the rest of the team is out together well.

You're mistaking a strong WR draft with "replaceability". And I don't feel like the Lions, Cardinals, and Texans are regretting their signings.

That is how good Dez Bryant is. Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Andre Johnson. You pay him.

 

[Idgit]

Thanks for the stats. In todays quick conclusion world we often don't get the data to make a comparison. Sure every person is different, and their body will react differently but it's nice to know we have seen people handle heavy loads for multiple years.

Smith's ability to handle that workload was amazing. There's a reason he had all the records he does. But it's not something it's wise to count on from Demarco Murray. The RB actuarial tables are pretty clear.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

See, that's what I mean

You'll give 10m to a DE that makes 10 sacks all year or a RT that had one good year and might be a LT or a CB that makes 2 INTs a year

BUT NOT

a RB that gets 2500 yds and 15 TDs, makes no sense

You don't pay for past performance. In all likelihood, this won't happen again.

 

[mahoneybill]

Smith's ability to hand that workload was amazing. There's a reason he had L'Da the records he does. But it's not something it's wise to count on from Demarco Murray. The RB actuarial tables are pretty clear.

Agree, but it can be done, and I hope Murray has it in him.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

You don't pay for past performance. In all likelihood, this won't happen again.

It likely won't considering it ranked among the best seasons for a RB in NFL history, however, this offense needs a guy capable of hitting 1500 yards or so and I think Murray is more than capable of doing that again.

 

[Nightman]

You don't pay for past performance. In all likelihood, this won't happen again.

Will Dez ever have 16 TDs again? Will Romo throw for 4900 yds?

That theory may work for aging vets, but not with 26 yr olds

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

Will Dez ever have 16 TDs again? Will Romo throw for 4900 yds?

That theory may work for aging vets, but not with 26 yr olds

Running backs are always aging. And their fall happens fast.

 

[tyke1doe]

He'll be a Colt. He may be the piece they need to overtake the Patriots. Trading for Trent Richardson was a tremendous mistake. Rotate Bradshaw and Murray, get Luck under 25 throws a game and improve the defense, and you're talking Super Bowl.

 

[Nightman]

He'll be a Colt. He may be the piece they need to overtake the Patriots. Trading for Trent Richardson was a tremendous mistake. Rotate Bradshaw and Murray, get Luck under 25 throws a game and improve the defense, and you're talking Super Bowl.

If they pay for Murray they aren't rotating him with TRich. They probably consider that 3m a sunk cost and just cut him.

That's still a lot of money for the RB position for a team that needs Defense.

 

[AKATheRake]

Murray will be here a minimum of 1 more season's. Will probably get signed for 4-5 years.

Adrian Peterson will continue to play for the Vikes.

 

[Doomsday101]

He had almost 400 carries that is why is got so many yards. He doesn't run with power or speed. 1800 yards is special. But Murray is more consistent (with help from our OL) than he is special.

and over 484 yards more than the second leading running back.

 

[jjktkk]

I agree that Murray's not special. He's good at everything though. The bigger issue is his number of carries from last season. He won't be the same good player next season.

I concur, he's a really, good back, but I would be very, hesitant to give Murray a huge contract.

 

[Doomsday101]

You're mistaking a strong WR draft with "replaceability". And I don't feel like the Lions, Cardinals, and Texans are regretting their signings.

That is how good Dez Bryant is. Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Andre Johnson. You pay him.

I want to get Dez signed but I do have to say while people will put down the value of the RB and claim the WR is so much more important I find it strange that 3 of the greatest WR in the game that you mentioned have zero SB rings. You would think with the money they are paid that they would be key to getting a SB yet nothing. Seahawks not much at WR and Frankly NE not much at WR yet both in the SB again. I'm not saying any of this as a means to belittle Dez or dispute the need to sign him but people do this with Murray act as if what he brought to the table was nothing when in fact it accounted for 40% of the Dallas offense this is not even taking into account this ability as a blocker.

 

[casmith07]

Henry Melton $8,499,500 cap savings if cut with only a $750,750 cap hit? Draft someone to replace him.

That is almost assuredly a done deal.

 

[tyke1doe]

If they pay for Murray they aren't rotating him with TRich. They probably consider that 3m a sunk cost and just cut him.

That's still a lot of money for the RB position for a team that needs Defense.

They'll cut TR. But I said they'd rotate him with Bradshaw. Bradshaw was the better back before he got hurt. As for defense, the Colts can still use their high picks to restock the defense. But the Cowboys set the example for improving your defense, and that's by running the ball. The Colts relied too heavily on Luck. If they adopt the approach the Cowboys did, I think they can push their way to the Super Bowl.

 

[casmith07]

I define special as a playmaker. Michael Irvin was slow compared to other WR. Emmitt use to kid him about not being able to get to the endzone. But he brought a will to win that infused the team.

The teammates of Murray talk\ about his leadership and skill. They believe he is special. I side with them. Your assertion about power and speed is interesting. The pile moves the direction he is running most times. He gets the dirty yards. And speed is relative. I'd rather have a guy that can move the sticks and play tough than a guy that can wiggle and gets stuffed.

Long runs are beautiful. Moving the sticks on third and short is what wins.

If we still had smileys, I would give you that hammer and nail one.

 

[casmith07]

He also has had way less carries than Emmitt had in his first four years. I don't see why Murray can't be a 1400 yard back here for the next few seasons if he stays healthy.

I think he ultimately returns at a fair but not record breaking deal. Both parties will benefit. At any rate I do feel a lot better about his return the more we get into the offseason.

What people fail to see is the intangibles.

You think Marshawn Lynch would be caught dead at a Washington Huskies game with Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson?

Murray is a part of the glue of this organization, not only in the locker room but with the coaching staff. I would get into more specifics, but I'll leave it at that. (if you want me to talk specifics, hit me up on FB).

You sign guys like Murray in order to continue to have guys lead from the front and from the top down in more ways than just yards and carries.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

I want to get Dez signed but I do have to say while people will put down the value of the RB and claim the WR is so much more important I find it strange that 3 of the greatest WR in the game that you mentioned have zero SB rings. You would think with the money they are paid that they would be key to getting a SB yet nothing. Seahawks not much at WR and Frankly NE not much at WR yet both in the SB again. I'm not saying any of this as a means to belittle Dez or dispute the need to sign him but people do this with Murray act as if what he brought to the table was nothing when in fact it accounted for 40% of the Dallas offense this is not even taking into account this ability as a blocker.

Rob Gronkowski is going to make every penny Dez makes. This claim is false.

You look at what happened to Arian Foster over three seasons and compare it to Andre Johnson. One literally fell apart. One is still the best receiver on his team.

And if you think Johnson's contract had anything to do with why Houston was bad, you just aren't paying attention.

 

[Doomsday101]

Rob Gronkowski is going to make every penny Dez makes. This claim is false.

You look at what happened to Arian Foster over three seasons and compare it to Andre Johnson. One literally fell apart. One is still the best receiver on his team.

And if you think Johnson's contract had anything to do with why Houston was bad, you just aren't paying attention.

What I am saying is you spend all this money on WR and it makes it hard to address other issues in the mean time Gronk is a TE and looking at the top WR I don't see a lot of bling on their fingers. We just saw 2 teams in the SB neither having WR top 24 at the position.