Dom Capers has been offered a position by the Cowboys as...

[Bach]

why are you so insistent on pointing it out. will it change anything?

no.

will jones read your wisdom and suddenly know how to work his GPS?

.

Why are people on here so insistent on denying Jerry may actually be making many of these decisions?

This is a Cowboys message board, right? I don't see what the problem is to discuss what is actually going on with the team. And, most on here seem to think Jerry is a great GM. So I find it strange why they are so determined to prove he isn't involved. Heck, if I thought he were a great GM, I'd definitely want him to be calling all the shots.

Besides, why are you so insistent in constantly questioning me whenever I make a post about what's going on? Are all your posts complaining about me going to change anything? I doubt it, but they sure are annoying.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't see why it's cause for alarm if he's making solid football moves. This isn't Switzer, Gailey, or Campo as HC kind of moves.

 

[Chevyman08]

If defense would have held them out of the end zone before halftime would would have kept the momentum in the game and probably would have won easily. We would have been up 17-7 after our opening drive of the second half.

Let's face it, the defense wasn't very good last year. We did not have a defense
that could win the superbowl. Especially against a team like New England.

Demote Stewart or let him go. We need to bring in Capers.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

This is complete crap. It was the offense that failed us. The defense gave them the ball back twice in the final quarter, and the offense had 3 drives to score and came up with squat.

If anything we should have brought in Cam Cameron to help out Garrett.

No kidding. Why are so many ignoring this?

And besides, Wade called the plays on D. Stewart was just brought in because he knows Wade's system and was going to help implement it. He's a smart young guy who was going to be brought along as a coach... If you've seen him on his coaches show and heard him interviews, he's a bright, likeable guy who seems to have a lot of potential.

But the point is, Wade was running the D, which did improve in several key stats this year and did NOT fade down the stretch. So why would we overhaul our defensive staff like this? Stewart was NOT a problem.

And once again I ask, like IR said, what is so great about Capers? IMO his name has been elevated because he was one of the few 34 DCs around. But he's not as good as Wade as a defensive coach. At the absolute least, he's not any better than Wade.

So now I'm starting to wonder what the hell is going on at Valley Ranch. This isn't making any sense.

 

[Hostile]

That's just it. I'm not saying it spells disaster. I'm just saying that it doesn't seem to make much sense to install the next coaching staff now. It seems rather obvious Jerry is behind many of these decisions. The thing is, that doesn't mean it won't work. What's funny is how so many seem to bend over backwards to try and claim Wade is calling all the shots, as if admitting it is actually Jerry or Garrett then there's a problem.

I'm right in the middle of you guys. I don't care who is calling the shots.

Jerry? Fine.

Wade? Fine.

Jason? Fine.

I care that the shots being called are going to push the team forward and I believe they are going to do exactly that. I'm not crazy about the Campo hire because I don't recall 2000 to 2002 fondly, but I openly admit the guy is a good football coach, just not a good HC. I can put aside my dislike for those memories to see why the move was done.

If I were in Jerry's shoes Dom Capers would already be hired. If that pisses off Wade I'm sorry, but I have my doubts that it would given the fact Dom and Wade were seen together and Wade is the guy who seemed to be hinting at him coming here when it was reported that he was leaving.

In truth the ONLY negative thing I have seen reported is that Brian Stewart would have an issue if Dom is brought here. So, let him have an issue or let him go. If he goes, give Dom the DC job. Instant improvement. I like Stewart, but let's be honest, a neophyte DC versus a guy widely regarded for the chore? What's the problem? Paying Stewart to leave? Let's all get signs that say "Brian Stewart's exit fund" and go stand on the street corners.

Maybe he can take Bruce Read with him when he goes. I have no issue with any of the moves other than a personal distaste for bringing back Campo and that has nothing whatsoever to do with his coaching abilities for what he was hired to do.

Much ado about nothing IMO and you guys just keep lobbing scuds. Both sides. It's like everyone has become a grasshopper. Great on distance but lousy on direction.

I can't wait until we get back to looking at the big picture instead of these silly little petty forum member feuds.

 

[Hostile]

Why has noone mentioned that Wade wanted Spagano for his DC last year but San Diego would not let him go. They did let Stewart go. Maybe thats because they knew he wasn't as good a coach. Anyway, my point is that Wade actually settled for Stewart because he was the only defensive coach from San Diego that was available. It is entirely possible that after a year as a DC, it is painfully obvious to everyone that Stewart is in over his head and needs assistance from someone with experience. If he's not willing to accept it, then let him go and bring in Capers.

Valid question.

If it happened we'd still need a LBs coach.

 

[iceberg]

Why are people on here so insistent on denying Jerry may actually be making many of these decisions?

This is a Cowboys message board, right? I don't see what the problem is to discuss what is actually going on with the team. And, most on here seem to think Jerry is a great GM. So I find it strange why they are so determined to prove he isn't involved. Heck, if I thought he were a great GM, I'd definitely want him to be calling all the shots.

Besides, why are you so insistent in constantly questioning me whenever I make a post about what's going on? Are all your posts complaining about me going to change anything? I doubt it, but they sure are annoying.

who's denying it? it's his job a GM. If Jones were to let Wade make all the calls knowing he's gone in a year or two you'd be screaming at Jones for letting a short timer put a staff in he won't be around to complete or utilize much longer.

jones is simply in a no-win situation with you and YOU WON'T ADMIT THAT!

if it's your job to be annoying, i fill the same role to you. when you can explain why you're as annoying as you are, i'll work to do the same. probably with a "ditto".

 

[YosemiteSam]

Why has noone mentioned that Wade wanted Spagano for his DC last year but San Diego would not let him go. They did let Stewart go. Maybe thats because they knew he wasn't as good a coach. Anyway, my point is that Wade actually settled for Stewart because he was the only defensive coach from San Diego that was available. It is entirely possible that after a year as a DC, it is painfully obvious to everyone that Stewart is in over his head and needs assistance from someone with experience. If he's not willing to accept it, then let him go and bring in Capers.

Wade also said last year, that he would be handling the defense. So if what you say is correct, the Stewart isn't even a capable defensive assistant.

If that is the case, why would they even be worrying about stepping on his toes. He would be a talent the Cowboys can do without.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Much ado about nothing IMO and you guys just keep lobbing scuds. Both sides. It's like everyone has become a grasshopper. Great on distance but lousy on direction.

I can't wait until we get back to looking at the big picture instead of these silly little petty forum member feuds.

Whales???


Grasshoppers??


Hos you got me

Am I watching the Discovery Channel?

 

[trickblue]

Big deal. I got a jar of olives stuffed with jalapenos in my refirgerator.

It is about as relevant.

Off topic...does anyone know how to make the ~ actually go over the n?

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It's on your character map... the keystroke is Alt+0241

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Why are so many people so wound-up about position coaches?

Based on historical trends, one can only arrive at the conclusion that the players should be at the epicenter of the witch hunt to determine why the Season ended so poorly and abruptly.

Head Coaches have brought in Assistant Coaches from far and wide. Whether they were garrulous, laconic, fiery or a taciturn, they, along with their Head Coaches failed to have any type of impact on the bottom line, which was to finish the season strong and win a Playoff Game.

Focusing on position coaches is easy. Focusing on the attitudes and type of players on the current roster is the more painful option.

 

[AbeBeta]

It is entirely possible that after a year as a DC, it is painfully obvious to everyone that Stewart is in over his head and needs assistance from someone with experience. If he's not willing to accept it, then let him go and bring in Capers.

If that were the case, then why would we have kept Stewart around? Why not give him the axe right off the bat. Why do this now when far fewer positions are open?

Of course, in SD Stewart actually got demoted to co-DB coach before they let him out of his deal. So it may just be that he sucks.

I'll go back and forth on this most of the day but I do think there is some credence to the idea that Jerry and Wade sat down and made lists of who they wanted for various jobs -- recall that Emmitt Thomas was the guy we first heard about for DB, Dennis Thurman 2nd, etc. Campo may have ties to Garrett but it is hard to argue that he wouldn't be one of the top guys on a list of potential DB coaches who would be interested in coming to Dallas.

They may very well have also evaluated each coach and made lists of guys who would be upgrades, in the event that the coach left or in the event that someone special was available.

But I do have to wonder what exactly the organization said to Capers to get him to change his mind about interviewing. We should all keep in mind that this is not about money -- the Dolphins owe Capers a ton (2.6 mill I believe) and whatever he makes this year comes off that contract (e.g., if Dallas pays 1 mill then Miami owes him 1.6).

 

[theogt]

Why are so many people so wound-up about position coaches?

Based on historical trends, one can only arrive at the conclusion that the players should be at the epicenter of the witch hunt to determine why the Season ended so poorly and abruptly.

Head Coaches have brought in Assistant Coaches from far and wide. Whether they were garrulous, laconic, fiery or a taciturn, they, along with their Head Coaches failed to have any type of impact on the bottom line, which was to finish the season strong and win a Playoff Game.

Focusing on position coaches is easy. Focusing on the attitudes and type of players on the current roster is the more painful option.

I agree. We should have more threads about Roy Williams.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I agree. We should have more threads about Roy Williams.

Either that or comparing Ware vs Merriman. ...oh yeah. That subject is now dead. :laugh2:

 

[Bach]

I'm right in the middle of you guys. I don't care who is calling the shots.

Jerry? Fine.

Wade? Fine.

Jason? Fine.

I care that the shots being called are going to push the team forward and I believe they are going to do exactly that. .

If I were in Jerry's shoes Dom Capers would already be hired. If that pisses off Wade I'm sorry

If I'm in Jerry's shoes, I hire a HC and allow the HC to decide who is on his staff. If I don't have faith enough in the HC I hired to make these decisions, then I find one that I do have faith in.

Doesn't make an ounce of sense to go about hiring the staff for the HC. Anyone that has ever worked in an organization should know how things end up working. Guys that are brought in by the HC will likely feel more loyalty towards him. Guys brought in by Jerry or Garrett will probably have a stronger link with them. Sure, you may be able to make it work, but it's not an ideal situation. It's what causes undermining to happen in the first place. People can scoff at this, but it is a potentially real problem that can be averted rather easily, but it's up to the man at the top.

Do I think Capers is better than Stewart? Of course. I also wonder why you need Capers when you have Wade. How many chiefs are necessary?

Much ado about nothing IMO and you guys just keep lobbing scuds. Both sides. It's like everyone has become a grasshopper. Great on distance but lousy on direction.

I can't wait until we get back to looking at the big picture instead of these silly little petty forum member feuds.

I don't think it's silly to post about what is going on. I do think it's silly to have people constantly deny what's happening. What swoon? It's all Wade? etc. ... I also agree that back and forth about all that is silly though.

Apparently this board is more attuned to those who want to have a rosy picture painted regardless of what may actually be happening. So be it.

 

[Hostile]

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It's on your character map... the keystroke is Alt+0241

You lost me twice.

 

[theogt]

You lost me twice.

Hold down alt. Press the numbers. Then let go of alt.

 

[WoodysGirl]

You lost me twice.

On your keyboard, press and hold the Alt key while typing the numbers 0241, then release the Alt key.

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[Woods]

If I'm in Jerry's shoes, I hire a HC and allow the HC to decide who is on his staff. If I don't have faith enough in the HC I hired to make these decisions, then I find one that I do have faith in.

Doesn't make an ounce of sense to go about hiring the staff for the HC. Anyone that has ever worked in an organization should know how things end up working. Guys that are brought in by the HC will likely feel more loyalty towards him. Guys brought in by Jerry or Garrett will probably have a stronger link with them. Sure, you may be able to make it work, but it's not an ideal situation. It's what causes undermining to happen in the first place. People can scoff at this, but it is a potentially real problem that can be averted rather easily, but it's up to the man at the top.

Do I think Capers is better than Stewart? Of course. I also wonder why you need Capers when you have Wade. How many chiefs are necessary?



I don't think it's silly to post about what is going on. I do think it's silly to have people constantly deny what's happening. What swoon? It's all Wade? etc. ... I also agree that back and forth about all that is silly though.

Apparently this board is more attuned to those who want to have a rosy picture painted regardless of what may actually be happening. So be it.

So, just for consistency sakes, you do mind BP hiring the GM, HC, positional coaches, etc.?

I'm just curious.

That should be Sparano making all the co-ordinator moves, correct?

 

[YosemiteSam]

You lost me twice.

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