ESPN's 5 most deadly hitters

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firehawk350;1459111 said:
No, one source is a Cowboys fan saying he read it in Stats... The other one is NFL.com
NFL.com gets its tackle stats from STATS LLC.

You can fail to believe that AdamJT13 actually has access to stats from STATS LLC, but his posts are littered with hundreds of references to them. Which is more likely? A giant multi-year internet hoax or you simply being too big of a homer to recognize that your safety sucks?
 

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tomson75;1459121 said:
Fastest thread ever...

I have no idea what firehawk's intention is, posting this article

he can't remember any vicious hits by Roy, yet is disclaiming every post w/ "I think Roy should be on the list"

nvm, I should have known by now, it's just firehawk sparking trouble
 

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theogt;1459092 said:
Wanna talk about ********? How bout claiming that the guy hardly ever whiffs on tackles when he set a league record in that stat category?

It's like a Cowboy fan claiming that TO doesn't drop balls.
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theogt;1459114 said:
True, but he didn't preface the list for '06. It was a top 5 hitters in the league, not top 5 in '06.

Maybe he thinks the 2nd half of '06 was sufficient to take Roy off the list, but I think even his hitting during '06 was probably better than Dawkins'.

I think Allen is the ESPN writer that recently had Roy as one of the most overrated players in the league.
Oh I know he didn't preface it, but I think it's a safe assumption to make that he's making that opinion based on '06. But I think if we're thinking of '06, Roy wasn't scaring many receivers across the middle...

I think it's fair to put Dawkins on the list. Peppers, not-so-much.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1459127 said:
I have no idea what firehawk's intention is, posting this article

he can't remember any vicious hits by Roy, yet is disclaiming every post w/ "I think Roy should be on the list"

nvm, I should have known by now, it's just firehawk sparking trouble

It said the most deadly hitters in the NFL, and even though I can't think of a particular hit specfically, I think Roy should be in there because he has always hit hard. Whats so bad about that?
 

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firehawk350;1459056 said:
I never said such a thing. As a matter of fact, I said that Roy should be on the list. I have never even said that Sean is a harder hitter, much less a better safety. We're NOT starting this debate.


Your right bro, I apologize you didnt say that. I didnt mean to jump on ya.

Its just that many have used that jacobs play from last year and say roy got plowed or whatever, when the opposite is true, it was from the 1 and jacobs is 265 he should score 10 out of 10 times in that situation and the fact that in oct of 05 with the giants down a td in the last 2 minutes of the game from the 2 Roy stood jacobs up and stripped the ball which was very impressive.

And the example of portis doing anything to him is another questionable one because Dallas stopped washington 7 straight times from inside the 5 yard line and roy made 4 of the tackles almost single handedly, and portis was stopped twice trying to run it in from there by roy.

and to clarify, I dont think cowboys fans or Commanders fans should be talking about the play of roy williams or sean taylor from 06 because both of them were exposed and had average years.

I hate that debate and am glad you didnt mean to start that, The only things worse to talk about are religion and politics.
 

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firehawk350;1459135 said:
It said the most deadly hitters in the NFL, and even though I can't think of a particular hit specfically, I think Roy should be in there because he has always hit hard. Whats so bad about that?

Nothing, its the Taylor talk that is wrong.
 

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WoodysGirl;1459134 said:
Oh I know he didn't preface it, but I think it's a safe assumption to make that he's making that opinion based on '06. But I think if we're thinking of '06, Roy wasn't scaring many receivers across the middle...

I think it's fair to put Dawkins on the list. Peppers, not-so-much.
What's the reason do you think? I mean, it can't all of a sudden be Roy deciding not to hit hard because his mom told him it's not nice...
 

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firehawk350;1459135 said:
It said the most deadly hitters in the NFL, and even though I can't think of a particular hit specfically, I think Roy should be in there because he has always hit hard. Whats so bad about that?

idk dude, you've dropped 2 dimes in, 1, Roy got ran over by Brandon Jacobs, and 2, you don't remember any specific hits, it seems like you're validating the list even though you claim innocence

I don't buy it
 

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firehawk350;1459139 said:
What's the reason do you think? I mean, it can't all of a sudden be Roy deciding not to hit hard because his mom told him it's not nice...

He had a shoulder problem the 2nd half of last year.
 

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firehawk350;1459139 said:
What's the reason do you think? I mean, it can't all of a sudden be Roy deciding not to hit hard because his mom told him it's not nice...

it's because he's been playing CF so much these past 3 years

God, do you watch any games besides Commander games?
 

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firehawk350;1459139 said:
What's the reason do you think? I mean, it can't all of a sudden be Roy deciding not to hit hard because his mom told him it's not nice...
There were rumors of a shoulder injury. I think he was wearing a device at some point -- some sort of shoulder harness. Whatever it is, it was very obvious that his "hitability" dropped off very suddenly in the 2nd half of the season.
 

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theebs;1459136 said:
and to clarify, I dont think cowboys fans or Commanders fans should be talking about the play of roy williams or sean taylor from 06 because both of them were exposed and had average years.

the last 6 games for Roy, 16 for Sean
 

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Bob Sacamano;1459140 said:
idk dude, you've dropped 2 dimes in, 1, Roy got ran over by Brandon Jacobs, and 2, you don't remember any specific hits, it seems like you're validating the list even though you claim innocence

I don't buy it
Did he forget to mention the time Roy knocked Jacobs so silly he dropped the ball at the 1 yard line? ;)
 

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firehawk350;1459120 said:
I'm going to leave this Taylor thing alone, because Boys fans won't be happy until somehow, even the waterboy sucks at pouring the water (he led the league in cups half-full according to my uncle's roommate's cousin who read it in Stats).
Honestly, what did you expect? A Commanders fan on a cowboys board posting something that props up your player and "disrespects" the 'boys player.

And just because you don't know who one of the most respected posters is on this board, doesn't mean he's not correct about your Taylor. I think most on here would say that it's not fun to be on the receiving end of an AdamJT13 lashing.

So, my only thing is you agree? I can't remember a particularly vicious hit by Roy, but surely he laid some wood.
Agree about what? Whether or not Roy deserved to be on a top 5 hitter list? Not for his '06 performance IMO. Doesn't mean he's not a top safety, but he wasn't busting heads last year as usual.
 

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theogt;1459153 said:
Did he forget to mention the time Roy knocked Jacobs so silly he dropped the ball at the 1 yard line? ;)

that's been thrown in firehawk's face too many times already, I don't want to scar the kid :D
 

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firehawk350;1459139 said:
What's the reason do you think? I mean, it can't all of a sudden be Roy deciding not to hit hard because his mom told him it's not nice...
Scheme and coverage responsibilities.
 
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