F.O. has failed this offseason

rpntex

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what proof do you have that he was a terrible teammate? I'll tell you who a terrible teammate is...One who fails drug tests.

It's not what proof we have, but what proof this coaching staff and front office has. THEY were there, and know first-hand what kind of a teammate and locker room presence he was. The fact that 31 other teams have completely ignored him should tell you something, too. It obviously doesn't tell YOU anything, but it speaks very loudly to almost everyone else.
 

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Well his teammates always seem to speak highly of him. The panthers players wanted him back.
Even if he was a terrible teammate, he's not the first and certainly not the last, yet others continue to play. Only reason Hardy isnt playing is because people dont believe in innocent until proven guilty

How often have you ever heard any player throw another under the bus? It just doesn't happen.
 

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The owner of the NFC Champion Carolina Panthers has gone on record to say that he never interferes in the decision of his GM and coaching staff with one single exception. He forbid the resigning of Greg Hardy.

The Cowboys gave him a chance and nothing short of domination was going to make the gamble worthwhile. If he had come away with 15 sacks for the season I would say lets continue with the experiment despite the baggage, but 6 sacks? 5 solo with 2 assists? Why bother?

As for the Cowboys botching the offseason. Spending big money on veteran free agency is almost always foolish. Think about it. His old team may have wanted him but they certainly weren't impressed enough to offer the big money and nobody knows better then them.

Go ahead, give me some counter examples and I will easily provide a 10 to 1 ratio of misses. So now you've given this guy a huge contract which means you have to start him. So, before training camp has even started, he's got sa huge contract and A starting position. What else does he need. The dishes are done and so is any competitive edge as a result of being pushed by his peers. Many of them are basically stealing one more big contract.

Elliot was the key to the whole offseason, his presence makes evry squad better ijn some sense. There is no guarantee he was going to fall to a lower position for the Cowboys. however, I do believe the drafting of Smith was extremely foo9lish. The Cowboys had a 2nd round pick that was only 4 picks away from being another 1st rounder, don't gamble that pick when the Cowboys need real help. That was a luxury pick the Cowboy could not afford. Perhaps jhe turns out okay.....you know, like Bruce Carter? Even if he heals to the doctor's expectation he will never be the same player. So yeah, dumb move when you could have drafted a potential starter this year on this defense.

You draft for one and hopefully two contracts from a player. But I get where you're coming from though. I like the EE pick but I'd have traded down assuming I had a reasonable partner. And I'd have taken a DE with that R2 pick unless I had taken one in R1.
 

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I truly believe the front office has failed us this offseason...here's my reasons.

1. Jason Garrett and his staff got a free pass for last years debacle. its totally inexcusable that this staff could not win without Romo. and whoever the genius was that decided we needed to trade for Cassel is an idiot.
2. The single most glaring need was a decent vet qb after last seasons disgrace, even S.Jones said after the season that backup QB would be a top priority. No action has been taken. None whatsoever!!
3. Free Agency - was a big strike out, we netted nothing other than maybe Thornton to replace Hayden. Mayowa was also signed when the Raiders decided to not to match our offer. Morris was signed also, but was he really needed?
4. The Draft - 1st off Elliott, I like the pick, I don't mind the pick, but in all fairness, we probably should've traded down and tried to maximize that pick, we just have to many needs not too mention we need depth just about everywhere other than OL. The Smith pick was a disaster, one can hope he recovers, just too risky of a pick for us with the current roster we have. i can stomach the rest of the draft.
5. RoMac - why do we continue to put up with this guys crap?
6. Greg Hardy - It amazes me that we continue to turn our back on him, he can be signed to a team friendly one year deal and INSTANTLY be our best DL. It should be a no-brainer since both of our starting DE's are suspended for the first 4 games.

those are just a few thoughts off the top of my head...i am still optimistic about this season, but truthfully a lot of things will have to go our way...with the #1 thing being if this team can stay relatively healthy.

I get your frustration but I would rather have Freeney over Hardy.
 

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I truly believe the front office has failed us this offseason...here's my reasons.

1. Jason Garrett and his staff got a free pass for last years debacle. its totally inexcusable that this staff could not win without Romo. and whoever the genius was that decided we needed to trade for Cassel is an idiot.
2. The single most glaring need was a decent vet qb after last seasons disgrace, even S.Jones said after the season that backup QB would be a top priority. No action has been taken. None whatsoever!!
3. Free Agency - was a big strike out, we netted nothing other than maybe Thornton to replace Hayden. Mayowa was also signed when the Raiders decided to not to match our offer. Morris was signed also, but was he really needed?
4. The Draft - 1st off Elliott, I like the pick, I don't mind the pick, but in all fairness, we probably should've traded down and tried to maximize that pick, we just have to many needs not too mention we need depth just about everywhere other than OL. The Smith pick was a disaster, one can hope he recovers, just too risky of a pick for us with the current roster we have. i can stomach the rest of the draft.
5. RoMac - why do we continue to put up with this guys crap?
6. Greg Hardy - It amazes me that we continue to turn our back on him, he can be signed to a team friendly one year deal and INSTANTLY be our best DL. It should be a no-brainer since both of our starting DE's are suspended for the first 4 games.

those are just a few thoughts off the top of my head...i am still optimistic about this season, but truthfully a lot of things will have to go our way...with the #1 thing being if this team can stay relatively healthy.

I agree we could have been more aggressive this offseason in filling needs, but I also think the sentiment around the front office is were closer to 12-4 than 4-12.

Regarding backup QB, Weeden and Cassel werent terrible backup options and we saw Weeden go on to win games in Houston. The coaching staff just did a poor job adjusting the game plan for both these QBs. In addressing the backup QB position this offseason, there really wasnt much in free agency to make a play for. We attempted to trade up for a QB in the draft, but it didnt workout.

DE defitinetly could have been addressed this offseason and is the one position I fault the FO for not making a serious move on. They could have targeted Mario Williams, or atleast grabbed Chris Long as insurance for a modest deal.

I initially thought we should bring Hardy back too, but the decision is now based far beyond the negative media attention of last season. If it was solely about the off the field incident and not what occured in the locker room then I do think he would be back. After assessing the situation further I have no issue with the FO decision.

I agree that Romac should be released, you would think he would have learned something from his 4 game suspension last offseason. Its clear he doesnt care enough about football and should be cut.
 

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4-12 left a bad taste in all of our mouths. As it should...but the farther I have gotten away from the 2015 season the more I see clearly and objectively. Looking forward to the start of TC and the season.

Man the offseason is LONG after a horrible season! Lol!

Thinking the coaching staff failed last year and is likely no better than league average isn't being unobjective. It's probably reality.
 

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Thinking the coaching staff failed last year and is likely no better than league average isn't being unobjective. It's probably reality.

That can be a fair assessment of last season. What I meant by that statement was that the emotion is gone from such a dismal season. I view the season from the perspective of an unattached observer rather than a fan of the club.

What I realize is that the best player on the team at he most important position went down and the gap between that player and any others at his position is the widest of any other position on the team. Only Tyron Smith can have an argument in that regard but LT does not out rank the QB position in priority so...I also realize that the front office and coaching staffs made errors in having confidence in certain personnel. There were also in game errors by the staff yet there were several games that the team was in or could have won if the most important position in football was manned by the team's best player. That is reality as well.
 

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Failure is a relative thing. It seems a very large contingent of Cowboys fans are of the mind that anything less than a Super Bowl is failure.

Personally, I look for improvement. That is determined after the fact, not before.

Im looking at the 2015 offseason in terms of 2016 improvement.

-Does Jones become a near pro bowl level FS

-Can we get solid snaps out of Wilson and Russell

- Can we get a strong presence from Gregory once he come back
 

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You draft for one and hopefully two contracts from a player. But I get where you're coming from though. I like the EE pick but I'd have traded down assuming I had a reasonable partner. And I'd have taken a DE with that R2 pick unless I had taken one in R1.

From what ive heard they were very interested in Leonard Floyd in the event they trade down
 

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They would turn to a quarterback (Moore or Prescott) that has had a full offseason and training camp with the offense.

How is that different from last year, when it was Weeden and Moore they could turn to?
 

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I get your frustration but I would rather have Freeney over Hardy.

That signing makes so much sense since he is high character and could be a great example for the young DEs on the roster on what it takes to be a pro.

But that is the problem. It is a common sense solution to an organization that honestly does not have a lot of it.
 

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Should we let them play a little bit before calling the offseason a disaster? For all we know, there may be players that step up. Romac I agree with....cut your losses with this guy. If the money he's making and the position he has (meaning playing in the NFL which many wish they had that opportunity) isn't important enough for him, then let him go. If he did it a second time, it's very likely a third will happen also.
 

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Thing is, "decent" vet QBs don't exist. Most veteran QBs resign with their own team if the offer is out there. It makes sense, if they are willing to accept a backup job, why switch teams for similar money and learn a new playbook, build new chemistry with your teammates and win over new coaches? Fact is, the last two years...every decent QB either resigned with their own team or went somewhere else to compete to start.

http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/freeagents2016QB.php

Take a look, this is what was out there this year. Brian Hoyer is the highest ranked QB that accepted a backup job. Is Brian Hoyer better than what we have? Possibly but he wouldn't win much without Romo either. Hoyer's background is much like Moore, he just played more.

Regardless, this is July...absolutely 100% impossible to judge our offseason. In fact, I would rank this offseason above 2014 in every possibly way.

The coaches should be held accountable for having a team that is so dependent on one player, Romo in this case. It makes me wonder just how bad the team will be when Romo is gone and how many decades it will take to place him.
 

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The fact that 31 other teams have completely ignored him should tell you something, too. It obviously doesn't tell YOU anything, but it speaks very loudly to almost everyone else.

This
 

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Im looking at the 2015 offseason in terms of 2016 improvement.

-Does Jones become a near pro bowl level FS

-Can we get solid snaps out of Wilson and Russell

- Can we get a strong presence from Gregory once he come back

Great post. Some fans (and guys like Mel Kiper) get caught up in the last draft class but its the 2nd and 3rd year players improving that always the biggest factor in a team's improvement. You can add a lot of names to that list for players making a jump in performance - like Irving, Mayowa, Neozcha, Collins, etc.
 

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Great post. Some fans (and guys like Mel Kiper) get caught up in the last draft class but its the 2nd and 3rd year players improving that always the biggest factor in a team's improvement. You can add a lot of names to that list for players making a jump in performance - like Irving, Mayowa, Neozcha, Collins, etc.

Exactly. You need to see improvement from the 2nd and 3rd year players.
 

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Failure is a relative thing. It seems a very large contingent of Cowboys fans are of the mind that anything less than a Super Bowl is failure.

Personally, I look for improvement. That is determined after the fact, not before.

A lot of fans are old enough to remember when Super Bowls was the goal every year. The expectations are much lower for younger fans that don't know what it feels like to contend for championships every year. That is one reason for the huge disconnect between posters on many issues. That is just an observation.
 
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