Finish sending the message, some players have to be cut today!

[Hostile]

uh Hostile, the Commanders made their cuts today;

So you think doing things the Commanders way is brilliant?

How exactly does this change the information I shared? Did them doing that mean the cutdown day changed for every team, including us? Or is it still exactly when I said it would be?

Never mind answering, just go back to applauding the Commanders. I stay grounded in the real world where the cuts will happen when the coaching staff is good and ready and not on your timetable.

 

[Dodger12]

IF Newton said that he was full of it, because he knew as well as everyone watching he was not getting cut.

You cut a scrub like Curvin Richards, but I guarantee Emmitt could have fumbled 5 times in that same game and he would not have been cut

Leon Lett said the same thing after the Miami missed FG game where Lett pounced on the ball and Miami recovered giving them a second FG try and eventually the win. After we lost the game, he went in to the locker room fearing Jimmy would cut him. That was the atmosphere around VR back then.

 

[mwj473]

I believe if you look at the great teams that won more than one super bowl in a 7 year span, most of those teams, the steelers, dolphins, cowboys, packers worked out in pads and hit and tackled.

I have to ask this, but what decade are you living in with these comparisons?

One minute you compare us to 15-40 year old teams and the next minute you want us to be like losing teams (49ers & Commanders). I don't understand it.

Also, it was Bigg that was holding on the FG attempt, not Procter, do we cut him to make a statement?

 

[speedkilz88]

My point was, the article said they didn't tackle to the ground in camp just like we didn't. If you want to argue they had more practices in pads, well maybe they did. But they didn't tackle as you wanted us to do, if that article was correct.

I read the same thing, they don't tackle to the ground. The Cowboys wore pads most of camp also so it sure sounds like they had similar camps.

 

[cowboyjoe]

So you think doing things the Commanders way is brilliant?
i didnt say the Commanders did things brilliantly, was just pointing out, they made their cuts, and if im not mistaken the 49ers finished making their cuts too for the 75 limit;

How exactly does this change the information I shared? Did them doing that mean the cutdown day changed for every team, including us? Or is it still exactly when I said it would be?
the point i am trying to make is that the cowboys have a history of waiting till the last minute to announce their cuts, especially the last cut. Other teams best to my memory about 7 of them make their cuts a day or 2 days before the final cuts are due. That way those teams are allowed the 24 hour first period to claim any players that are cut on the final day.


Never mind answering, just go back to applauding the Commanders. I stay grounded in the real world where the cuts will happen when the coaching staff is good and ready and not on your timetable.

im not saying should be on my timetable, I am not a coach, havent played the game in college or in the pros, but its what I feel i see with teams and what you should do. Again, just my opinion and thoughts.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I have to ask this, but what decade are you living in with these comparisons?

One minute you compare us to 15-40 year old teams and the next minute you want us to be like losing teams (49ers & Commanders). I don't understand it.

Also, it was Bigg that was holding on the FG attempt, not Procter, do we cut him to make a statement?

What i feel that a team should do is this;
have training camp in some heat related place like Jimmy Johnson did with the cowboys in the 90's. Then have those players practice in pads, and hit and tackle. You dont have to do hitting and tackling every day, because you would get beat up that way, but at least hit and tackle at least once or twice a week. That way you are gearing your team to play against the big boys and you are primed and ready to play.
The 49ers are about 2 years away from being a good team, they are where the texans were 2 years ago. Remember, when Jimmy Johnson took over in 89, he had to rebuild the team, into a smash mouth slopper knocker team. That atmosphere worked to bring the Cowboys 2 championships under Jimmy Johnson and one under switzer because the team was already built when switzer got here. I think you would agree with that.
The cowboys as of now, remind me of the cowboys in the 1967 to 1969 era with don meredith and craig morton. Leaders slowly developed on that team mid 1970 with Lily, Jordan, Greene, Garrison, Niland, R Wright, to keep players inline and tow the mark.

You can win superbowls under a coach like Tom Landry, but remember, how long did it take Coach Landry to win, 10 years. Under Jimmy Johnson 4 years.
Coach Lombardi, Coach Noll, Coach Shula, and Coach Johnson were all tough, dispcline coaches and they won 2 or more super bowls in a 7 to 8 year span. Remember, in 1978, the Cowboys were losing, and TE Jackie Smith called a team meeting and told the players, your acting like you can just go out there and win without hard practice and working. Doesnt work that way. The players listened, redicated themselves, fixed their bad practice habits and they got to the super bowl. Landy believes like Wade Phllips does to a large degree, you treat players like professionals. That works fine when you have leaders on the team, like Switzer had when he came to the Cowboys, when Aikman, Irvin, E Smith, D Woodson, Newton, Tuneii, Novachek, Bates, Haley and Sanders were on the team.

You have to have that nucleus of leaders and a veteran team to do that. Just listen to what Crayton said Saturday night. Mistakes and penalities!

Way you fix that is have a more disciplined team with tackling somewhat in practices and having players held accountable.

 

[cowboyjoe]

My point was, the article said they didn't tackle to the ground in camp just like we didn't. If you want to argue they had more practices in pads, well maybe they did. But they didn't tackle as you wanted us to do, if that article was correct.

all i know if, the Moose and the other reporter said, that they did tackle in practice, something that the cowboys players dont do to a large degree.

Yet, when the cowboys have a blue scrimmage and have a goal line drill, they have players in shells and no shoulder pads, thats how roy williams got hurt, no shoulder pads. Now, did that make sense?

 

[LeonDixson]

My point was, the article said they didn't tackle to the ground in camp just like we didn't. If you want to argue they had more practices in pads, well maybe they did. But they didn't tackle as you wanted us to do, if that article was correct.

all i know if, the Moose and the other reporter said, that they did tackle in practice, something that the cowboys players dont do to a large degree.

Yet, when the cowboys have a blue scrimmage and have a goal line drill, they have players in shells and no shoulder pads, thats how roy williams got hurt, no shoulder pads. Now, did that make sense?

That's a different argument completely. Quit chasing rabbit trails. My first comment after RW was injured was what the heck were they doing out there with no pads on?

Look Joe, my only comment on your post was that the Whiners didn't tackle in camp either. If you think they did, then fine.

 

[Hostile]

i didnt say the Commanders did things brilliantly, was just pointing out, they made their cuts, and if im not mistaken the 49ers finished making their cuts too for the 75 limit;

the point i am trying to make is that the cowboys have a history of waiting till the last minute to announce their cuts, especially the last cut. Other teams best to my memory about 7 of them make their cuts a day or 2 days before the final cuts are due. That way those teams are allowed the 24 hour first period to claim any players that are cut on the final day.

im not saying should be on my timetable, I am not a coach, havent played the game in college or in the pros, but its what I feel i see with teams and what you should do. Again, just my opinion and thoughts.

Please ask me to teach you how to use the split quote function. It really isn't that difficult. Trying to read blue and bold and underlined and figure out what I said versus what you are saying it maddening.

Okay, let me state once again, who cares if the Cowboys wait until the last minute? Please explain to me one iota of difference it makes if the cut comes 24 hours sooner? Be honest, is there one damned thing different? Let me answer for you, no.

See, this is what drives me crazy sometimes about fans. They have no earthly concept of the amount of discussion that goes into making roster decisions. They can immediately do it on Madden and they watched the game so Jerry should just do it. Bang, zip, zoom, over with.

How do you know whether or not there is a trade being discussed? How do you know if a player has a nagging injury that the team needs to determine if it played a role in a poor performance? How do you know whether another player who is performing better might have a substance abuse issue that is part of the balance process?

Answers...you don't. You have no earthly clue.

Well, here's reality for you Joe, guys will get cut. Sometimes it will be the guys you want cut. Sometimes it won't. Are you likely to die if Stanback isn't cut today? Is it a matter of life and death? I hate to think your life is so fragile that it hangs upon whether a player gets cut.

He probably is not going to make this team. It will happen at the teams pace and no amount of *****ing about it is going to change that. Ever. I am so sorry to disappoint you by bringing reality into the equation.

Washington and San Francisco are announcing their cuts. Last time I checked we are not Washington or San Francisco. Let me go a step further. Who is the most successful franchise of the last 10 years? I would say the Patriots. Feel free to disagree if you wish. I don't care. Are they announcing their cuts today? Do they ever make cuts right away? Hate to explain this to you Joe, but no they don't. Typically they are the very last team to announce their cuts. Please follow along on kffl if you doubt this.

Why you might ask? I am glad you asked. They wait until the last minutes so that they can see every other team's cuts and see if they want to bring someone in and they want to stall other teams from stealing their cuts.

My last word on this, no team makes cuts just because the fans don't like a player. Chances are the 2 cuts we make before the September 1 deadline will not be the players worrying you to death. They still won't make the team.

Focus on 53 not 75. It's a damn sight smarter than this crap.

 

[arglebargle]

That's pretty well etched in fire there....

Though I have to say, I haven't ever figured out the split quote function either.

Loved the part about all the behind the scenes calculations going on. These decisions have a lot that we will never see. And they are all calculated risks.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Please ask me to teach you how to use the split quote function. It really isn't that difficult. Trying to read blue and bold and underlined and figure out what I said versus what you are saying it maddening.

Okay, let me state once again, who cares if the Cowboys wait until the last minute? Please explain to me one iota of difference it makes if the cut comes 24 hours sooner? Be honest, is there one damned thing different? Let me answer for you, no.

It does make a difference Hostile! When you make your cuts, you have to wait 24 hours to pick up players. Say for example, titans, patriots cut their players on a friday, but the cowboys cut their players on a sunday. Immediately when the cowboys cut their players, the titans or patriots can pick up the players the cowboys released, but the cowboys have to wait that 24 hours for the players to clear the waiting period.

Thus, patriots or titans whomever releases players earlier, gets the first crack at players released 24 hours or 48 hours later, while that team has to wait.

See, this is what drives me crazy sometimes about fans. They have no earthly concept of the amount of discussion that goes into making roster decisions. They can immediately do it on Madden and they watched the game so Jerry should just do it. Bang, zip, zoom, over with.

I have been watching the game, and pros since 1966 Hostile, I am not some rookie. I have helped the Cowboys win some games too Hostile, among some other things I have done. Remember, once I sent you a message about T O dropping his arms on a route before he was suppose too?

How do you know whether or not there is a trade being discussed? How do you know if a player has a nagging injury that the team needs to determine if it played a role in a poor performance? How do you know whether another player who is performing better might have a substance abuse issue that is part of the balance process?

Answers...you don't. You have no earthly clue.

yes, I have an ideal Hostile, I am not saying its right, but over half the time I am right. I have some inside sources, just like you have some inside sources with the Dallas Cowboys.

Well, here's reality for you Joe, guys will get cut. Sometimes it will be the guys you want cut. Sometimes it won't. Are you likely to die if Stanback isn't cut today? Is it a matter of life and death? I hate to think your life is so fragile that it hangs upon whether a player gets cut.

Nope it doesnt, just like this year, I didnt get too overly upset when the Cowboys lost to the 49ers. I used to get upset, but I am past that now. My thinking is, show me, prove to me that you want to win and you will play just as hard as you do in late November and December just like you play hard in September.

He probably is not going to make this team. It will happen at the teams pace and no amount of *****ing about it is going to change that. Ever. I am so sorry to disappoint you by bringing reality into the equation.

Just like you have your opinion, I have the right to have my opinion hostile. Thats what this country is about, free speech and thought. Sometimes, I am wrong, sometimes I am right. I will go even further then that and say, that I was very high on Stanback, and thought he would be a good player. I question now his intensity though, decication to the game.

Washington and San Francisco are announcing their cuts. Last time I checked we are not Washington or San Francisco. Let me go a step further. Who is the most successful franchise of the last 10 years? I would say the Patriots. Feel free to disagree if you wish. I don't care. Are they announcing their cuts today? Do they ever make cuts right away? Hate to explain this to you Joe, but no they don't. Typically they are the very last team to announce their cuts. Please follow along on kffl if you doubt this.

Just in case you havent noticed hostile, the patriots have released 2 players and will put one player on injured reserve. I also have 2 other sites that I get some info before kffl gets it too. Take notice they did make some moves today Hostile. Follow along now.

Why you might ask? I am glad you asked. They wait until the last minutes so that they can see every other team's cuts and see if they want to bring someone in and they want to stall other teams from stealing their cuts.

I understand that Hostile, but when they make cuts at the last minute, they have to wait the 24 hours before they can make those moves. Thats my point! While other teams can scoop up certain players first.

My last word on this, no team makes cuts just because the fans don't like a player. Chances are the 2 cuts we make before the September 1 deadline will not be the players worrying you to death. They still won't make the team.

I dont expect the Cowboys to make cuts just because of what I say, but sometimes, you say things enough, and get them out there so other writers can see them, and they make that point too, and ask the coaches why, then sometimes they take notice. There are several writers that read some posts on this site.

Focus on 53 not 75. It's a damn sight smarter than this crap.

I am focused, always will be, because I dont say some negative things like you do, I stay grounded and focused,

 

[zrinkill]

Please ask me to teach you how to use the split quote function. It really isn't that difficult. Trying to read blue and bold and underlined and figure out what I said versus what you are saying it maddening.

Okay, let me state once again, who cares if the Cowboys wait until the last minute? Please explain to me one iota of difference it makes if the cut comes 24 hours sooner? Be honest, is there one damned thing different? Let me answer for you, no.

It does make a difference Hostile! When you make your cuts, you have to wait 24 hours to pick up players. Say for example, titans, patriots cut their players on a friday, but the cowboys cut their players on a sunday. Immediately when the cowboys cut their players, the titans or patriots can pick up the players the cowboys released, but the cowboys have to wait that 24 hours for the players to clear the waiting period.

Thus, patriots or titans whomever releases players earlier, gets the first crack at players released 24 hours or 48 hours later, while that team has to wait.


See, this is what drives me crazy sometimes about fans. They have no earthly concept of the amount of discussion that goes into making roster decisions. They can immediately do it on Madden and they watched the game so Jerry should just do it. Bang, zip, zoom, over with.

I have been watching the game, and pros since 1966 Hostile, I am not some rookie. I have helped the Cowboys win some games too Hostile, among some other things I have done. Remember, once I sent you a message about T O dropping his arms on a route before he was suppose too?

How do you know whether or not there is a trade being discussed? How do you know if a player has a nagging injury that the team needs to determine if it played a role in a poor performance? How do you know whether another player who is performing better might have a substance abuse issue that is part of the balance process?

Answers...you don't. You have no earthly clue.
yes, I have an ideal Hostile, I am not saying its right, but over half the time I am right. I have some inside sources, just like you have some inside sources with the Dallas Cowboys.

Well, here's reality for you Joe, guys will get cut. Sometimes it will be the guys you want cut. Sometimes it won't. Are you likely to die if Stanback isn't cut today? Is it a matter of life and death? I hate to think your life is so fragile that it hangs upon whether a player gets cut.

Nope it doesnt, just like this year, I didnt get too overly upset when the Cowboys lost to the 49ers. I used to get upset, but I am past that now. My thinking is, show me, prove to me that you want to win and you will play just as hard as you do in late November and December just like you play hard in September.

He probably is not going to make this team. It will happen at the teams pace and no amount of *****ing about it is going to change that. Ever. I am so sorry to disappoint you by bringing reality into the equation.

Just like you have your opinion, I have the right to have my opinion hostile. Thats what this country is about, free speech and thought. Sometimes, I am wrong, sometimes I am right. I will go even further then that and say, that I was very high on Stanback, and thought he would be a good player. I question now his intensity though, decication to the game.

Washington and San Francisco are announcing their cuts. Last time I checked we are not Washington or San Francisco. Let me go a step further. Who is the most successful franchise of the last 10 years? I would say the Patriots. Feel free to disagree if you wish. I don't care. Are they announcing their cuts today? Do they ever make cuts right away? Hate to explain this to you Joe, but no they don't. Typically they are the very last team to announce their cuts. Please follow along on kffl if you doubt this.


Just in case you havent noticed hostile, the patriots have released 2 players and will put one player on injured reserve. Take notice they did make some moves today Hostile. Follow along now.

Why you might ask? I am glad you asked. They wait until the last minutes so that they can see every other team's cuts and see if they want to bring someone in and they want to stall other teams from stealing their cuts.

I understand that Hostile, but when they make cuts at the last minute, they have to wait the 24 hours before they can make those moves. Thats my point! While other teams can scoop up certain players first.

My last word on this, no team makes cuts just because the fans don't like a player. Chances are the 2 cuts we make before the September 1 deadline will not be the players worrying you to death. They still won't make the team.

I dont expect the Cowboys to make cuts just because of what I say, but sometimes, you say things enough, and get them out there so other writers can see them, and they make that point too, and ask the coaches why, then sometimes they take notice. There are several writers that read some posts on this site.

Focus on 53 not 75. It's a damn sight smarter than this crap.
I am focused, always will be, because I dont say some negative things like you do, I stay grounded and focused,

Goodlord

Please stop quoting people ..... you just cannot do it.

 

[Hostile]

That's pretty well etched in fire there....

Though I have to say, I haven't ever figured out the split quote function either.

Loved the part about all the behind the scenes calculations going on. These decisions have a lot that we will never see. And they are all calculated risks.

I'm going to use the word "example" to help illustrate this. Just switch the word example with the word quote and you've got it.

All of the functions here begin with something in brackets like this [example] and then the function closes with a slash in the brackets like this [/example].

So all you have to do is find the part of someone else's quote that you want to separate and close the quote. Then put the open quote at the beginning of the next section and the close quote at the end.

Not hard at all. Give it a try and PM me if you have any questions.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

From a thread just a few pages back:

49ers' Willis will check his Cowboys fandom at the sideline
By Daniel Brown


dbrown@mercurynews.com

Posted: 08/28/2009 09:12:32 PM PDT
Updated: 08/28/2009 10:38:42 PM PDT


Growing up in Tennessee, linebacker Patrick Willis loved the Dallas Cowboys. Loved 'em. He still smiles widely as he recalls his favorite players: Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin and Darryl Johnston.

Willis was such a big Cowboys fan, in fact, that he rumbled whenever his 49ers-loving cousin dared to mention a certain other NFL powerhouse team out West.

"Every time he would say Jerry Rice or Joe Montana, we would fight," Willis said. "That's how serious it was."

Considering that history, Willis will be excited in more ways than one when the 49ers — his 49ers — visit the new $1.2 billion Cowboys Stadium today.

It is the third exhibition for both teams, but the first appearance for the 49ers' two-time Pro Bowl linebacker. Willis was hampered by ankle and Achilles injuries early in camp and is just now rounding into health.

The coaching staff held him out against the Raiders a week ago as a precaution, but Willis has full clearance for today's game and could play most of the first half.

The 49ers want to see how their defense looks when they add their main ingredient. Through the first two exhibition games, the 49ers rank ninth overall in defense (293.0 yards allowed per game) and are tied for first in turnover differential (plus-6).

Now, the 49ers add Willis, their defensive captain who eagerly anticipates his first tackle of the 2009 season. Defensive players can make contact in practice, but there is no to-the-ground tackling.

So Willis has been at the buffet for two weeks without taking a bite.

"I've had to calm myself down a couple of times," he conceded. "I kind of get a thud in here and there without going against how we work and how we practice. But it's going to be fun to be able to hit again and tackle live."


http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_13227820

Also, did anyone see the highlight from the Giants/Jets game last night where the Jet WR caught a deep lob and ran though four Giants DBs on the way to a touchdown? It was literally 1-on-4 -- no blockers -- and he scored anyway. Does that mean the Giants coach is too soft, or they don't hit enough, or those players should all be cut immediately?

 

[Hostile]

It does make a difference Hostile! When you make your cuts, you have to wait 24 hours to pick up players. Say for example, titans, patriots cut their players on a friday, but the cowboys cut their players on a sunday. Immediately when the cowboys cut their players, the titans or patriots can pick up the players the cowboys released, but the cowboys have to wait that 24 hours for the players to clear the waiting period.

Holy crap, I had to edit that before I could even figure out what you were saying.

Newsflash, every player has to clear waivers in 24 hours, not just the teams who cut early or the teams who cut late. Same process for every team.

Thus, patriots or titans whomever releases players earlier, gets the first crack at players released 24 hours or 48 hours later, while that team has to wait.

Incorrect. Every team has the same chance to pick up a player and if they do it before he clears waivers and more than one team claims the player the team with the worst record is awarded that team.

No charge for the lesson.

I have been watching the game, and pros since 1966 Hostile, I am not some rookie. I have helped the Cowboys win some games too Hostile, among some other things I have done. Remember, once I sent you a message about T O dropping his arms on a route before he was suppose too?

Didn't say you were a rookie, but this "send a message" stuff doesn't send any message. It's merely something to placate fans. There is no advantage to releasing players early or late. It is no different.

That is what you don't seem to grasp as evidenced by what you claimed above that I had to correct.

yes, I have an ideal Hostile, I am not saying its right, but over half the time I am right. I have some inside sources, just like you have some inside sources with the Dallas Cowboys.

The word is idea, not ideal. An idea is a thought. An ideal is a value or a model.

Nope it doesnt, just like this year, I didnt get too overly upset when the Cowboys lost to the 49ers. I used to get upset, but I am past that now. My thinking is, show me, prove to me that you want to win and you will play just as hard as you do in late November and December just like you play hard in September.

Okay. Means literally nothing to me.

Just like you have your opinion, I have the right to have my opinion hostile. Thats what this country is about, free speech and thought. Sometimes, I am wrong, sometimes I am right. I will go even further then that and say, that I was very high on Stanback, and thought he would be a good player. I question now his intensity though, decication to the game.

I said you couldn't have an opinion? I must have missed that. Would you be so kind as to point out to me where I told you that you are not entitled to your opinion.

If you can't handle someone not clapping their hands and taking the opposite view that isn't my problem. I think it is a silly thread and I don't mind saying so.

Just in case you havent noticed hostile, the patriots have released 2 players and will put one player on injured reserve. I also have 2 other sites that I get some info before kffl gets it too. Take notice they did make some moves today Hostile. Follow along now.

I don't care. Bully for them. All it means is they are taking care of that right now. If Dallas does the same so be it. BUt to do it simply because the fans want it is just plain dumb.

I understand that Hostile, but when they make cuts at the last minute, they have to wait the 24 hours before they can make those moves. Thats my point! While other teams can scoop up certain players first.

See my comments above where you were wrong because they still apply and you still are.

I dont expect the Cowboys to make cuts just because of what I say, but sometimes, you say things enough, and get them out there so other writers can see them, and they make that point too, and ask the coaches why, then sometimes they take notice. There are several writers that read some posts on this site.

If the Dallas Cowboys manage their team based upon media, and media writes their articles based upon the fans then we are screwed. It is as simple as that.

I am focused, always will be, because I dont say some negative things like you do, I stay grounded and focused,

Negative things? I dissed your idea so it was negative?

Grow up.

 

[speedkilz88]

Joe, you just don't understand the waiver wire. It does not matter when you cut the players. All teams have the same access to the waiver wire and have 24 hours to make a claim. After the 24 hours is up the team with the worst record from last year (out of those making a claim) gets player or players in question. The team that gets the claim has to make the necessary cuts at that point if they don't already have a vacant roster spot.

I think we went over this last year.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Newsflash, every player has to clear waivers in 24 hours, not just the teams who cut early or the teams who cut late. Same process for every team.

Incorrect. Every team has the same chance to pick up a player and if they do it before he clears waivers and more than one team claims the player the team with the worst record is awarded that team.

No charge for the lesson.

You were right and I was wrong on that, when I am wrong I admit it.

Didn't say you were a rookie, but this "send a message" stuff doesn't send any message. It's merely something to placate fans. There is no advantage to releasing players early or late. It is no different.

The point that I am trying to send a message, was just like the cowboys sent a message to the team, when they released T O, pacman, tank johnson, and other players. What did Scandrick and some other players say a few days after that. I might be next, so I had better pay attention. You can send messages by cutting or releasing players, that would really wake up players come Monday morning, or you can have players work extra, or say players jump offides in practice, you make that group of offensive linemen run extra laps. The other players that have to do extra stuff because some player wasnt paying attention, those players will get across to that person to pull his own weight.

Wrong, sending a message does work, Just like Jimmy Johnson said one time with the media, I am having a nice little meeting with you guys right now (the media) they are getting the message with my visit with you.
There are two writers that read this board along with a couple more boards and get some ideals and thoughts to write about and ask the Cowboys players. Even todd said one time to a fan, thats a good ideal, I will pass that along and ask around the cowboys to see if i can get a answer.

Yet, you said, go check out kffl and the patriots havent made any moves yet, but they did.

If you can't handle someone not clapping their hands and taking the opposite view that isn't my problem. I think it is a silly thread and I don't mind saying so.

That's where we differ. I have never said someone's thread was silly or crap, as you said. Just like cw used to have to keep you at an even keel. I look at zoners ideals, thoughts, mull them over, and go from there. Just like you have the right to think my thought or post was silly, I have the right to think the opposite. Again, when I am wrong I admit it, and move on. That to me is growing up. Calling someone's thoughts or posts silly or crap to me isn't growing up, to me, its being a kid.

If the Dallas Cowboys manage their team based upon media, and media writes their articles based upon the fans then we are screwed. It is as simple as that.

Again, wrong, sometimes you get ideals from the media. Jimmy Johnson was a master at using the media to motivate his team or send a message. Just like one time, Jimmy Johnson was watching tv one time, and saw the bills using a shuffle pass. Jimmy contacted his staff and had them go back to films all of that year. Sure enough they hadnt used the shuffle pass. One of those plays, that the bills used on a shuffle pass, the cowboys defense forced a turnover because they were ready for that play. A message was sent one time by yours truly about the cowboys missing field goals, sure enough, the problem was fixed after the cowboys got that message. I got a personal thank you letter back from the cowboys.

 

[Hostile]

You were right and I was wrong on that, when I am wrong I admit it.

The point that I am trying to send a message, was just like the cowboys sent a message to the team, when they released T O, pacman, tank johnson, and other players. What did Scandrick and some other players say a few days after that. I might be next, so I had better pay attention. You can send messages by cutting or releasing players, that would really wake up players come Monday morning, or you can have players work extra, or say players jump offides in practice, you make that group of offensive linemen run extra laps. The other players that have to do extra stuff because some player wasnt paying attention, those players will get across to that person to pull his own weight.

Yeah, I got it. I still don't agree.

Wrong, sending a message does work, Just like Jimmy Johnson said one time with the media, I am having a nice little meeting with you guys right now (the media) they are getting the message with my visit with you.

Jimmy Johnson works for FOX.

There are two writers that read this board along with a couple more boards and get some ideals and thoughts to write about and ask the Cowboys players. Even todd said one time to a fan, thats a good ideal, I will pass that along and ask around the cowboys to see if i can get a answer.

Ideas, not ideals. Please look up the word both words. Here's a link to an online Dictionary. They are not interchangeable.

I know of 12 writers who read this forum. Hey, knock yourself out. I still think it's silly.

Yet, you said, go check out kffl and the patriots havent made any moves yet, but they did.

Bully for the Patriots. Ask me if I care. Then go back and look at their long term History and ask yourself if one day of them doing it this way is the norm or the exception.

Uh, that means look up how they USUALLY handle business. You will find that I was exactly right.

That's where we differ. I have never said someone's thread was silly or crap, as you said. Just like cw used to have to keep you at an even keel. I look at zoners ideals, thoughts, mull them over, and go from there. Just like you have the right to think my thought or post was silly, I have the right to think the opposite. Again, when I am wrong I admit it, and move on. That to me is growing up. Calling someone's thoughts or posts silly or crap to me isn't growing up, to me, its being a kid.

If being a kid keeps me in the real world over fantasies I can accept that. Besides I like kids.

Again, wrong, sometimes you get ideals from the media. Jimmy Johnson was a master at using the media to motivate his team or send a message. Just like one time, Jimmy Johnson was watching tv one time, and saw the bills using a shuffle pass. Jimmy contacted his staff and had them go back to films all of that year. Sure enough they hadnt used the shuffle pass. One of those plays, that the bills used on a shuffle pass, the cowboys defense forced a turnover because they were ready for that play. A message was sent one time by yours truly about the cowboys missing field goals, sure enough, the problem was fixed after the cowboys got that message. I got a personal thank you letter back from the cowboys.

Knock yourself out Joe.

I reserve the right to repeat my feelings this is nothing but a foolish tantrum and the cutdowns will happen when they happen despite 23,000+ fans screaming for them.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I needed a good laugh so I scanned for your name

HaHa thats a good one BigD

 

[cowboyjoe]

Leon Lett said the same thing after the Miami missed FG game where Lett pounced on the ball and Miami recovered giving them a second FG try and eventually the win. After we lost the game, he went in to the locker room fearing Jimmy would cut him. That was the atmosphere around VR back then.

thats the point im trying to make, you send that message,