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Does anybody think it's a little "cheap" that GRRM can just bring back anyone whenever he wants? I mean, it happened in the show quite a few times and in the book even more. And so far it seems to be a little random why some people come back more human than others. For example, Khal Drogo came back and was so useless in full zombie mode that Daenerys had to smother him back to death. But then that one guy who died in the show a bunch of times seemed completely normal. And then (in the books) Lady Stoneheart can't speak, but that's understandable since her throat was slit. Just seems a little arbitrary. I mean, I guess Khal Drogo was pretty dumb to begin with. Or maybe the lady who resurrected him didn't know what she was doing. And I doubt Jon is gonna come back all zombie-ish otherwise it wouldn't even be worth bringing him back in the first place. In my opinion, it just seems a little cheap. Part of what originally made the show awesome to me was that anyone could die. I was shocked when Ned died in the first season. I was sure he would be the last man standing in the series finale. But now GRRM can just bring back whoever he wants. Seems like a cheap writing trick. I remember hearing some director/writing saying one time that "dreams" are such a cheap writing trick. This whole story unfolds and then the final scene shows it was all a dream. Well, I think this whole resurrection thing is a little cheap too.
I disagree completely. It made pretty clear that bringing some back is a pretty complex thing and the possibility is limited to very few (looks like just followers of the red god). First you have Berric Dondarian brought back 6 or 7 times by the Thoros of Myr (red priest). The whole point of him coming back (from a story telling point) is the lay groundwork that is possible in this world. Its also made clear that there is a cost. Each time he came back, he was "less". That leads to Lady Stoneheart, and she only came back because the above mentioned Berric Dondarian gave his life (may ilves) to help make it happen, so there's some cost there.
For the show, the whole Berric Dondarian thing is to let the viewer know that this is possible. Otherwise, the first time red priest(ess) did that spell, it would have been with Jon Snow. Everyone would have cried foul then.
Khal Drogo came back a totally different way from the red priest way of doing it in that he never actually came back. The Witch who did that, did it to curse Danerys and it was a trick. She held up here end of the so called bargain by breathing air into Drogo but he was only technically alive, but in return, she killed Danerys' unborn child and also made her barren. Once Danny discovered this, she not only smothered Drogo, but burned the witch alive.
The detail, difficulty, and cost of doing this kind of thing is what keeps it from being cheap.