Golden Tate's hit on Sean Lee

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jimmy40;4732013 said:
yes I have and the wr didn't get hit.

My point was that Tate's hit on Lee would draw a flag in cfb the same as it should have drawn one today...unless, of course, today's officiating crew was doing the college game in question.
 

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Tate's block was fantastic....if we had a receiver make a block like that, we'd come up off our seats and cheer...we'd still be laughing. I don't believe anyone who says different.

Modern rules be damned...I admired the heck out of it, and I'll bet you won't hear Lee call it a cheap shot. I'll take that from our WRs anyway, penalty or not.

Seattle's secondary bottled us up and lit up our receivers when they made a catch...and the drops increased. They were much more physical and came out the way you'd expect a talented 0-1 team to come out in their home opener. Despite fumbled kickoff, a blocked punt for TD, and Romo throwing yet another typical Romo brainfart INT, we weathered the storm and made it 10-7.

After that, we simply got our a$$es kicked physically. Doug Free has got to now be a serious concern...no sign of getting it together...he is not good.

Ware did not have a good game either, and we missed Church.

Move on...Seattle was the better team today...no denying that.

We're in second place with a division win. Eagles are my concern...possibly a truly great team. Turn the ball over 9 times in two games with subpar games by Vick, injuries everywhere, and yet they find a way to 2-0. It's not luck.

Cowboys need to take care of business in home opener next week.
 

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IAMKING;4731905 said:
Not illegal just too hard for people's liking

Amen to this! Some of these ppl on here are rapped up in technicalities. OK, maybe it was an illegal hit. Some things get missed. IMO, I'm liking these new replacement refs. They are not changing the outcome of the game by seeing a player get blasted. THEY ARE LETTING THEM PLAY FOOTBALL. In the 80's and 90's hitting like this was the norm. If players are so concerned about their well being then there is always baseball..

I don't want to see flag football with a QB playing a game of catch with his receivers. I want to see hits which is the reason this league has grown to the success it is today. Too many softies on this forum.
 

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Clove;4732029 said:
I cover high school sports, and I see that hit every game. It is illegal, too bad cause that's real football there.


I actually don't mind the block. From a personal standpoint. I think it's good, hard, football.


The people attempting to make it out like it's not against the rules in the NFL are the people I have a problem with because they're either ignorant to the rules and game in the NFL or they're just being obnoxiously stupid trolls.


It's one thing to say that you don't really have a problem with the hit because you believe that's how football should be played, and I'd agree with you 100%, but to try and tell others to shut up cause it's a legal hit, when it's clearly not, makes you look incredibly stupid.
 

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BlueStar22;4731566 said:
thats football. nothing cheap about it. no retribution needed.


I assume most of you were watching the cowboys game live, but i was watching NFL redzone.. I think it was the Redzone announcer who pointed out that until last year, that play was legal, but do to a new rule only put in place this offseason, the play was technically illegal, as you can't block a defenseless player whose head is turned away.

I believe thats irrespective of leading with the helmet.
 

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I thought it was an absolutely beautiful block.

But I also like rules from the old days...when stuff like this wouldn't even be thought of as illegal.
 

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Chuck 54;4732067 said:
Tate's block was fantastic....if we had a receiver make a block like that, we'd come up off our seats and cheer...we'd still be laughing. I don't believe anyone who says different.

Seattle's secondary bottled us up and lit up our receivers when they made a catch...and the drops increased. They were much more physical and came out the way you'd expect a talented 0-1 team to come out in their home opener. Despite fumbled kickoff, a blocked punt for TD, and Romo throwing yet another typical Romo brainfart INT, we weathered the storm and made it 10-7.

After that, we simply got our a$$es kicked physically. Doug Free has got to now be a serious concern...no sign of getting it together...he is not good.

Ware did not have a good game either, and we missed Church.

Move on...Seattle was the better team today...no denying that.

We're in second place with a division win. Eagles are my concern...possibly a truly great team. Turn the ball over 9 times in two games with subpar games by Vick, injuries everywhere, and yet they find a way to 2-0. It's not luck.

Cowboys need to take care of business in home opener next week.


I rarely see you post on here and I can see why. Perfect post.
 

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blackbull;4732012 said:
in 2012 its one game we got punked and we punked the Giants week 1. Comprehend that it is week 2 dude.

Ummm, what? Your response isn't even a response to what I said. It's completely off-topic. I now understand some things a bit better.
 

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Fastphilly;4732068 said:
Amen to this! Some of these ppl on here are rapped up in technicalities. OK, maybe it was an illegal hit. Some things get missed. IMO, I'm liking these new replacement refs. They are not changing the outcome of the game by seeing a player get blasted. THEY ARE LETTING THEM PLAY FOOTBALL. In the 80's and 90's hitting like this was the norm. If players are so concerned about their well being then there is always baseball..

I don't want to see flag football with a QB playing a game of catch with his receivers. I want to see hits which is the reason this league has grown to the success it is today. Too many softies on this forum.

I would be more inclined to buy this reasoning if Carter hadn't gotten a personal foul on the very same play for giving Wilson a slight shove as he was going out of bounds.
 
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Fastphilly;4732068 said:
Amen to this! Some of these ppl on here are rapped up in technicalities. OK, maybe it was an illegal hit. Some things get missed. IMO, I'm liking these new replacement refs. They are not changing the outcome of the game by seeing a player get blasted. THEY ARE LETTING THEM PLAY FOOTBALL. In the 80's and 90's hitting like this was the norm. If players are so concerned about their well being then there is always baseball..

I don't want to see flag football with a QB playing a game of catch with his receivers. I want to see hits which is the reason this league has grown to the success it is today. Too many softies on this forum.

It was illegal. You don't have to like it but that's the rule. It had no effect on the outcome of the game, but it should have been a flag. Disappointing the team didn't make the Seahawks pay for it. The team lacks heart.
 

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Chuck 54;4732067 said:
Tate's block was fantastic....if we had a receiver make a block like that, we'd come up off our seats and cheer...we'd still be laughing. I don't believe anyone who says different.
No really the point.
 

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coogrfan;4731961 said:
Perhaps Ware saw the flag and (understandably) assumed it was for Tate's painfully obvious illegal block? Under those circumstances, only an idiot would retaliate and risk negating a penalty on the other team.

What Ware couldn't foresee was that these refs knew even less about the NFL rules than your average CZ poster does.
you want to make excuses for him, go right ahead. the guy didn't even stop and check tate for the hit. if he check's him verbally he's not going to get a flag. there are other ways of letting someone know that crap i unacceptable without choke slamming him. maybe retaliation is too strong of a word, but i want this team to do something when their leader on defense gets cold clocked like that. is that too much to ask?
 

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blackbull;4731664 said:
So nobody wants to answer the question huh? When has a team taken offense to a blindside, legal block? I'll be waiting. (I know I won't get an examle)

It was not legal. Not going to waste time explaining the rules again, because some will never be able to comprehend them.
 

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JBond;4732147 said:
It was not legal. Not going to waste time explaining the rules again, because some will never be able to comprehend them.


Even if it was illegal the refs didn't throw a flag. I don't see what Dallas shouldve done. You have comedians here saying we should've won the game to show toughness after that play. lmao
 

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eliland;4732076 said:
I assume most of you were watching the cowboys game live, but i was watching NFL redzone.. I think it was the Redzone announcer who pointed out that until last year, that play was legal, but do to a new rule only put in place this offseason, the play was technically illegal, as you can't block a defenseless player whose head is turned away.

I believe thats irrespective of leading with the helmet.
So have a player that is in position to make a tackle and have them turn their head before contact and intentional take a nasty fall then the refs see a player that looks like they got walloped and didn't see it coming and presto 15 extra yards and a first down. This league is turning into a joke. Defences are stripped of every method of defending to please the NFL novice fan of seeing spectacular catches in the end zone....A glorified game of catch anyone?
 
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blackbull;4732171 said:
Even if it was illegal the refs didn't throw a flag. I don't see what Dallas shouldve done. You have comedians here saying we should've won the game to show toughness after that play. lmao

It'd have been nice to see some heart.
 

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blackbull;4732171 said:
Even if it was illegal the refs didn't throw a flag. I don't see what Dallas shouldve done. You have comedians here saying we should've won the game to show toughness after that play. lmao

I'm not a comedian?

You must really be a wimp in real life, off of the computer where you're apparently the tough guy. I know if someone laid me out like that, or I saw a teammate get laid out like that, I'd get up and be playing with a vengeance. I wouldn't want to see myself, teammate or team get pushed around like that. I get that you'd probably be busy on your knees since you'd be so impressed with the hit though. When a team consistently "punks" you you do something about it. Stepping up your game and coming back to fight harder is one option. I'll take my option over yours though.
 
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