Golden Tate's hit on Sean Lee

To me, it was a perfectly legal block. The penalty on Carter was ridiculous though.
 
erod;4732721 said:

The problem is that this isn't subjective. It is about clear cut rules established by the league the Cowboys and Seahawks play in. One of them was broken.
 
erod;4732721 said:
To me, it was a perfectly legal block. The penalty on Carter was ridiculous though.

I don't think it was legal, but if it was, it shouldn't be. Someone could get killed or paralyzed getting hit like that. Headbutting is not even allowed in MMA, which is a combat sport.
 
It was illegal. End of story.

It doesn't matter if it was a great hit ten years ago. It's no longer the case so arguing about it is utterly pointless. It's like saying, "well gee officer even though the alcohol age limit is 21 years old now, it was 18 years old twenty years ago, so you can't arrest me."
 
erod;4732721 said:
To me, it was a perfectly legal block. The penalty on Carter was ridiculous though.

Babe Laufenberg commented that the league made those types of blocks illegal recently. Regardless, it was helmet to helmet, which should have drawn a penalty and likely a hefty fine this week.
 
SultanOfSix;4732751 said:
It was illegal. End of story.

It doesn't matter if it was a great hit ten years ago. It's no longer the case so arguing about it is utterly pointless. It's like saying, "well gee officer even though the alcohol age limit is 21 years old now, it was 18 years old twenty years ago, so you can't arrest me."

While 99% of us will understand your analogy the 1% will not and will continue to be delusional.
 
Was this rule just implemented this year?

There will be an expansion of the league rule prohibiting hits to the head and neck of defenseless players next season after teams approved a new rule making such hits illegal when they come as part of crackback blocks.

Seeing as how players are already barred from going low on these blocks, it makes a good deal of sense to also stop them from going high when they are coming from the blind side of defensive players. While it will be interesting to see just how this rule is enforced, the rule change is definitely in line with other moves the league has made in recent years to increase player safety.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-defenseless-player-rule-to-crackback-blocks/
 
Don Corleone;4732803 said:
Yes that is what Laufenberg was referring to. The hit is illegal.

I honestly thought it had been on the books for a few years.
 
It's not a "hit", it's called a block. It was legal. Lee got the air knocked out of him for one play. People need to get over it.
 
EvilJerry88;4732829 said:
It's not a "hit", it's called a block. It was legal. Lee got the air knocked out of him for one play. People need to get over it.

It wasnt 1 play it was 3-4 plays while the assessed him for concusion.
 
Golden Tate basically tackled a player he was attempting to block. That's been illegal for a while. One of the multiple rules that he broke was relatively new. I certainly hope that none of our WRs or other players are STUPID enough to try and throw a "block" like that. Those are the type of plays that frequently help you lose games. It should have put the Seahawks in a huge hole that would have been hard to climb out of on that drive. The fact the replacement refs were too incompetent to call the play right, or the other penalty on the same play, definitely impacted the game. They gave the Seahawks 30% of the length of the field that they didn't earn.
 
EvilJerry88;4732829 said:
It's not a "hit", it's called a block. It was legal. Lee got the air knocked out of him for one play. People need to get over it.

:bang2:

I am not suggesting I like the rule. It was a great motivated play and wish Dallas had played with aggression like the Seahawks did.

However, go to post #62 and watch.

Tate went head to head contact. Like the rule or not, it was not a legal play.

Why are people being so stubborn? It it what it is. We did not lose because of it. I dont blame the refs even a nano bit for the loss, but does not change the fact as the rules are written it was not a legal play. My goodness...
 
EvilJerry88;4732829 said:
It's not a "hit", it's called a block. It was legal. Lee got the air knocked out of him for one play. People need to get over it.

You're the same derp that kept telling everyone McBriar wasn't released by the Eagles weeks after the fact. Observation of reality is obviously not your strong point. And, yes it was illegal.
 
gbrittain;4732858 said:
:bang2:

I am not suggesting I like the rule. It was a great motivated play and wish Dallas had played with aggression like the Seahawks did.

However, go to post #62 and watch.

Tate went head to head contact. Like the rule or not, it was not a legal play.

Why are people being so stubborn? It it what it is. We did not lose because of it. I dont blame the refs even a nano bit for the loss, but does not change the fact as the rules are written it was not a legal play. My goodness...

It's a bubble thing. Once their in it, there's no coming out.
 
EvilJerry88;4732829 said:
It's not a "hit", it's called a block. It was legal. Lee got the air knocked out of him for one play. People need to get over it.

lol the ignorant comments some of you are making are actually making me feel better about the loss, thanks for the laugh :laugh1:
 
EvilJerry88;4732829 said:
It's not a "hit", it's called a block. It was legal. Lee got the air knocked out of him for one play. People need to get over it.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
 
gbrittain;4732858 said:
:bang2:

I am not suggesting I like the rule. It was a great motivated play and wish Dallas had played with aggression like the Seahawks did.

However, go to post #62 and watch.

Tate went head to head contact. Like the rule or not, it was not a legal play.

Why are people being so stubborn? It it what it is. We did not lose because of it. I dont blame the refs even a nano bit for the loss, but does not change the fact as the rules are written it was not a legal play. My goodness...

Because it's the only place they can like a tough guy. They can't do that in real life so they come here and do it.
 
TheCoolFan;4731579 said:
Seeing this stuff about Tampa and NYG and Coughlin taking offense to the Bucs tackling during the kneel down and then comparing it to our team that NEVER wants to get into it with an opponent...it's just sad.

Even if it wasn't a penalty, in real speed, it looks dirty and then you see Tate out there celebrating and taunting and NO ONE does anything. It's pathetic.

it was pathetic

this team lay down today
 
Don Corleone;4732753 said:
Babe Laufenberg commented that the league made those types of blocks illegal recently. Regardless, it was helmet to helmet, which should have drawn a penalty and likely a hefty fine this week.

That type of hit has been illegal for a long time. All the league has done recently is added points of emphasis and changed how the rule is worded.
 

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