Irvin thinks Cowboys should sign Hardy to long term deal

[JoeKing]

Hardy does for our defense what Dez does for our offense... he makes everyone better, he's a difference maker. Sign him now! I'd give him the same deal Dez got.

 

[reddyuta]

Too soon for a long term contract. Let's see where we are at at the end of the season.

Either the Superbowl or looking for a QB in the draft.

 

[sacase]

I don't think you can sign him till after the season ends.

 

[DallasEast]

I hope some people practice their personal nausea and squirming because their near future may not be as tranquil and serene as they wish. In the real world, top quarterbacks, left tackles, cornerbacks, receivers and pass rushers get paid. Hardy had a solid resume before he was suspended. His first game as a Cowboy was nearly legendary. Dallas is owned by someone who will dig deep to retain someone like Hardy. So for those feeling those first pangs of dry heaves, you may want to go ahead, grab a wet towel for your forehead, and prop a wastebasket between your legs.

 

[Risen Star]

One game and people lose their minds.

 

[dallasdave]

I hope some people practice their personal nausea and squirming because their near future may not be as tranquil and serene as they wish. In the real world, top quarterbacks, left tackles, cornerbacks, receivers and pass rushers get paid. Hardy had a solid resume before he was suspended. His first game as a Cowboy was nearly legendary. Dallas is owned by someone who will dig deep to retain someone like Hardy. So for those feeling those first pangs of dry heaves, you may want to go ahead, grab a wet towel for your forehead, and prop a wastebasket between your legs.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Best Dline player we got

 

[Bullflop]

That is true about die hard fans wanting Hardy resigned, but fans don't make good GMs. That's why Jerry sucked for so many years.

A huge contract for Hardy is a huge risk. Major contracts are always a huge risk, but with Hardy it's even worse. I loved the one year signing of Hardy. I would love another one year signing. But to give him the JJ Watt money he's going to want? No way. Not right now. He would have to prove to me that he can be a team player, and that includes no distractions, no suspensions, no problem.

The Dallas Cowboys organization is a company, a major brand first and foremost. For us, they're our beloved team. But in reality, anything that is going to hurt that brand will be rectified. Usually, it's only about wins and losses. But lately, we have seen the Ravens, Panthers, 49ers, Vikings have problems with their image. I don't want that to happen with the Cowboys with a huge cornerstone player. It's ugly, and it can lead to a ton of dead cap money.

I mean, do any of us think the Panthers didn't want to resign Hardy? They wanted to, but it would have made them look terrible. The Ravens wanted to keep Rice. They couldn't. If Hardy can't just give a boring interview, then what else can't he refrain from doing? Before last game, Hardy had done nothing for the Cowboys other than hurt the brand. Now he has one great game and all the fans are opening up their fantasy checkbooks.

True die hard fans want the Cowboys to be good for many years to come, and they don't think knee jerk decisions are a good way of doing that.

Obviously, it's a risk that the Cowboys' FO is willing to take. The state of their team at present makes it so. Those that hate that franchise for what they are and have been for some time now aren't going to suddenly forgive and forget everything that they already have come to resent. In truth, much of it is built upon simple competitive jealousy that doesn't just disappear.

What's happening as of now isn't a knee jerk reaction. You can bet it's been mulled over many times and whatever follows will be the result of many hours of contemplation that isn't likely to be reversed. All this hate is a self-propagating thing that continues no matter what.

Those that like to think the Cowboys organization is terrible aren't likely to change no matter what transpires now and in the future. We'll see what comes. Probably, it won't get any better nor worse than it already is but of course, that remains to be seen.

 

[remdak]

Cowboys can try to sign him early, but I get the feeling he will play out this year and test the open market. He certainly does not lack any self confidence and will likely bet on himself. I think he might have some loyalty to the Cowboys, but not enough to turn down many millions more elsewhere (see DeMarco Murray).

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

One game and people lose their minds.

It's because we're not used to having a defense look like that. lol

 

[Idgit]

It's because we're not used to having a defense look like that. lol

It's probably more that Greg Hardy has a history of producing. He's young, we need him, and he apparently likes it here.

 

[Risen Star]

It's because we're not used to having a defense look like that. lol

Understood but let's hold off on the OMGsignhimnow!! stuff for awhile. We're talking about a guy who can't really be counted on. He's a head case. Patience is the best approach.

 

[Nightman]

Understood but let's hold off on the OMGsignhimnow!! stuff for awhile. We're talking about a guy who can't really be counted on. He's a head case. Patience is the best approach.

Gotta disagree. He has an on field history in CAR of way more than one game.

His off field stuff is just white noise. He has no criminal history

 

[chicago JK]

Gotta disagree. He has an on field history in CAR of way more than one game.

His off field stuff is just white noise. He has no criminal history

So if his agent comes to the table with the starting point of a Suh contract. Do you jump on that and sign him up? If you say no, they will wait until the offseason. What do you do?

 

[Bleu Star]

Sign him now before he racks up 10+ sacks. All of the people ragging him now will be fighting (bidding) over him next year. Don't hesitate.

Dude seriously. I think Irvin just saved our FO a boatload of money (if they heed his advice).

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Cowboys can try to sign him early, but I get the feeling he will play out this year and test the open market. He certainly does not lack any self confidence and will likely bet on himself. I think he might have some loyalty to the Cowboys, but not enough to turn down many millions more elsewhere (see DeMarco Murray).

I would love to keep him but think you are correct. And we need to start looking for the next QB.

 

[Nightman]

Well, Jerry's the owner. If he was an executive, he would have been fired a long time ago.

And no, you're not supposed to care about what Hardy says. This is not about you. This is about whether or not the Cowboys should risk signing Greg Hardy to a huge long term contract after multiple PR gaffes and one good game.

That makes no sense. You say it makes no difference what I think but say it is a PR issue. I am a fan and I wasn't offended by the stuff the PC police go crazy over.

AND my point about JJones is that sponsors don't care about his illicit behavior so they damn sure won't care about Hardy's

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I hope some people practice their personal nausea and squirming because their near future may not be as tranquil and serene as they wish. In the real world, top quarterbacks, left tackles, cornerbacks, receivers and pass rushers get paid. Hardy had a solid resume before he was suspended. His first game as a Cowboy was nearly legendary. Dallas is owned by someone who will dig deep to retain someone like Hardy. So for those feeling those first pangs of dry heaves, you may want to go ahead, grab a wet towel for your forehead, and prop a wastebasket between your legs.

Such a way with words.

 

[Idgit]

Understood but let's hold off on the OMGsignhimnow!! stuff for awhile. We're talking about a guy who can't really be counted on. He's a head case. Patience is the best approach.

I'd agree with that, too. He's a good player, that's not in doubt. He may not be the bad guy he's painted out to be (then again, he may be that guy), but he's a grade A knucklehead when it comes to saying, and sometimes doing, dumb things off the field. Better to wait a bit and see how he handles everything since nobody else can talk to him, anyway.

But you gotta know Jerry's drooling at the idea of extending this guy.

 

[Nightman]

So if his agent comes to the table with the starting point of a Suh contract. Do you jump on that and sign him up? If you say no, they will wait until the offseason. What do you do?

We can't do a Suh contract. But it isn't about risk, it is about money.

I would offer 60m with 30m guaranteed for 5 years. He MIGHT take it to get some quiet stability without going thru the FA news cycle for a month. He seems to like it here.