Is it James Casey vs Martellus Bennett?

[dcfanatic]

C'mon man, you are really getting melodramatic about this. You know good and well that a TE is removed anyway when Cricket is on the field (or a WR, depending on down and distance).

You should know this.

So we are spending a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a blocking FB?

Because that's what Crickets job is in the offense.

And that's why he was never on the field.

When he wasn't we were in a two TE set.

We aren't going to go into many 1 WR sets.

So where is the value in getting Casey if Bennett is here?

 

[cowboyjoe]

to me because casey and get down underneath a players shoulder pads and block, whereas Bennett is too tall to come into the hole and get down, but on the side of the OT, i think Bennett would be the better blocking TE but out in space casey would be better to me;

and if im not mistaken sometimes, the cowboys had an empty backfield a few times with like 4 wrs sets, 2 TE's and 2 WR

i think what you would see especially down near goal line because witten and bennett are so tall, maybe one wr, 2 TE's, either casey or felix jones because of versality, in fact in some instances you might see casey at QB in wildcat spot with felix there.

rememer jerry jones said they had the wildcat some with stanback and felix jones but stanback got hurt

 

[Chocolate Lab]

So we are spending a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a blocking FB?

Because that's what Crickets job is in the offense.

Cricket's job description would be vastly expanded if he were worth a damn.

 

[dcfanatic]

Not if he is making plays in the role that we give him.

Of course it would be.

Because when Cricket is on the field Bennett isn't.

So we shouldn't even attempt to get Casey.

It's a 2nd or 3rd for Casey, not a 5th or 6th.

 

[irvin4evs]

Wishful thinking DCF. Not gonna happen, and you will still have something to ***** about endlessly.

 

[dcfanatic]

Cricket's job description would be vastly expanded if he were worth a damn.

Ok. And if his spot is getting more 'looks' then whose spot isn't?

The 2nd TE.

Martellus Bennett.

 

[dcfanatic]

Wishful thinking DCF. Not gonna happen, and you will still have something to ***** about endlessly.

What am I wishing for?

Read the entire thread.

You're clueless about the discussion but you decided to take a shot at me.

Useful.

 

[irvin4evs]

It's not hard to tell what you're thinking. Go on and feign ignorance.

I would insert 50 emoticons to assure you that I am rolling on the floor and crying with laughter, but I trust you'll just take my word for it.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

So we are spending a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a blocking FB?

Because that's what Crickets job is in the offense.

And that's why he was never on the field.

When he wasn't we were in a two TE set.

We aren't going to go into many 1 WR sets.

So where is the value in getting Casey if Bennett is here?

In a nutshell..ya that's what it comes down to. People here are overvaluing the FB position. If he's in then Martellus is out. That simple. using 2 2nd's and a 3rd for three TE's is a poor allocation of picks. Casey can't even lead block that well. Give me Lorenzo Neal!

 

[SLATEmosphere]

and if im not mistaken sometimes, the cowboys had an empty backfield a few times with like 4 wrs sets, 2 TE's and 2 WR

i think what you would see especially down near goal line because witten and bennett are so tall, maybe one wr, 2 TE's, either casey or felix jones because of versality, in fact in some instances you might see casey at QB in wildcat spot with felix there.

rememer jerry jones said they had the wildcat some with stanback and felix jones but stanback got hurt

And you want to spend a 2nd rounder on that? WASTE

 

[BAT]

So we are spending a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a blocking FB?

Because that's what Crickets job is in the offense.

And that's why he was never on the field.

When he wasn't we were in a two TE set.

We aren't going to go into many 1 WR sets.

So where is the value in getting Casey if Bennett is here?

2 and 3 TEs are traditionally for short yardage run plays. But Cowboys could use that set and pass quite efficiently w/the players discussed.


The difference between an H-Back and FB is the FB is required to lead block more often in the running game, the H-Back would usually motion onto the line (the FB can do this too). But the H-Back is primarily a pass catching option, splitting out wide or into the slot (the FB can also do this).


But Bennett's value is not as an H-Back, but as a TE, on the line or split out wide. How many times have you seen Bennett lead block like a traditional FB? Or even catch a pass out of the backfield.


Cricket is not Casey. Casey will be used in far different ways. If anyone should be worried about their reps (in addition to Cricket) its Crayton (if he's retained) not Bennett. Dallas is supposed to become more run oriented, Benett's role will be increased, not decreased.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

2 and 3 TEs are traditionally for short yardage run plays. But Cowboys could use that set and pass quite efficiently w/the players discussed.


The difference between an H-Back and FB is the FB is required to lead block more often in the running game, the H-Back would usually motion onto the line (the FB can do this too). But the H-Back is primarily a pass catching option, splitting out wide or into the slot (the FB can also do this).


But Bennett's value is not as an H-Back, but as a TE, on the line or split out wide. How many times have you seen Bennett lead block like a traditional FB? Or even catch a pass out of the backfield.


Cricket is not Casey. Casey will be used in far different ways. If anyone should be worried about their reps (in addition to Cricket) its Crayton (if he's retained) not Bennett. Dallas is supposed to become more run oriented, Benett's role will be increased, not decreased.

Dude!..do understand why spending a 2nd rounder for a guy like that is a waste?? It's actually subtraction by addition with Casey. Your keeping Martellus off the field and spending a 2nd on a guy doing that. Very poor allocation and jerry should be shot if he even is considering this.

 

[Sandyf]

If you check several of scouts sites, they list Casey as a FB. More than likely if Dallas drafts him and IMO they will in the 3rd round, he will be the FB/H-Back/Wildcat QB.

Read the items on him, if he had stayed at Rice for his junior year, then he was slated to be the starting QB. He is 25 and that is one reason he can could out now instead of next year.

At Rice, he played FB and TE and also was the end rounder passer.

Bennett will not be going anywhere but Casey gives us many more options and most likely spells the end for Anderson at FB.

 

[dmoore]

Casey would be a wasted pick. I don't care if all the reports are that we "love" him, until we draft him I won't believe it. Bennett is a monster, and I don't think there's anyone we could take that would make me want to send him out of town. The sky is the limit with that kid.

 

[dcfanatic]

It's not hard to tell what you're thinking. Go on and feign ignorance.

I would insert 50 emoticons to assure you that I am rolling on the floor and crying with laughter, but I trust you'll just take my word for it.

What am I thinking? lol.

I just posted 16 times about what I was thinking.

You sound silly.

 

[unionjack8]

If we select Caseyany time before round 5 i'm gonna be pissed. TE is not a need, AT ALL. If they think he's an HB then think again. The guy never made a block in his life.

And as for moving Bennett, ********!!!!

 

[BAT]

Dude!..do understand why spending a 2nd rounder for a guy like that is a waste?? It's actually subtraction by addition with Casey. Your keeping Martellus off the field and spending a 2nd on a guy doing that. Very poor allocation and jerry should be shot if he even is considering this.

Keep lapping up DCF's kool-aid. He's hooked you line and sinker. If you cannot figure out that he's just being fear mongerer than that's on you. No one, ABSOLUTELY no one has mentioned Bennett's job being on the line. NO ONE. Just b/c YOU and your ilk cannot figure out how to use a playmaker (or playmakers) does not make it impossible. OPEN up your mind to new ideas, you'll sleep better at night.


I think the Jones' and the Cowboys organization have a tad bit more insight in the value of this player.

 

[Stash]

If you check several of scouts sites, they list Casey as a FB. More than likely if Dallas drafts him and IMO they will in the 3rd round, he will be the FB/H-Back/Wildcat QB.

Read the items on him, if he had stayed at Rice for his junior year, then he was slated to be the starting QB. He is 25 and that is one reason he can could out now instead of next year.

At Rice, he played FB and TE and also was the end rounder passer.

Bennett will not be going anywhere but Casey gives us many more options and most likely spells the end for Anderson at FB.

All the scouting reports I've seen list him at TE and question his blocking ability.

Can you list some for me that are listing him as a fullback?

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Keep lapping up DCF's kool-aid. He's hooked you line and sinker. If you cannot figure out that he's just being fear mongerer than that's on you. No one, ABSOLUTELY no one has mentioned Bennett's job being on the line. NO ONE. Just b/c YOU and your ilk cannot figure out how to use a playmaker (or playmakers) does not make it impossible. OPEN up your mind to new ideas, you'll sleep better at night.


I think the Jones' and the Cowboys organization have a tad bit more insight in the value of this player.

??? I've been saying this for weeks!! I've never wanted anything to do with this guy and there's one of these guys in every draft. Using a 2nd rounder on another TE is just straight BAT!(********).

 

[dcfanatic]

2 and 3 TEs are traditionally for short yardage run plays. But Cowboys could use that set and pass quite efficiently w/the players discussed.


The difference between an H-Back and FB is the FB is required to lead block more often in the running game, the H-Back would usually motion onto the line (the FB can do this too). But the H-Back is primarily a pass catching option, splitting out wide or into the slot (the FB can also do this).


But Bennett's value is not as an H-Back, but as a TE, on the line or split out wide. How many times have you seen Bennett lead block like a traditional FB? Or even catch a pass out of the backfield.


Cricket is not Casey. Casey will be used in far different ways. If anyone should be worried about their reps (in addition to Cricket) its Crayton (if he's retained) not Bennett. Dallas is supposed to become more run oriented, Benett's role will be increased, not decreased.

So Jason Garrett is going to start using 1 WR sets now in the middle of the field?

Just stop.

It's used inside the Red Zone for the most part.

And how did you get to Crayton over Austin.

11, not 12.