Twitter: Jerry explains the Amari Cooper trade

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They said they are saving it for the 2025 cap. As it will roll over and they can use it then.
I guess ALL IN means ALL IN the BANK until 2025.
Correct. I mean, at least dump players for more draft picks and we can carry on with our day :laugh:
I've NEVER subscribed to a team "tanking."
But if the owner/GM who's responsible for building a team, sits on money that can help the team NOW, I'm willing to rout another team on. Hard to even say, but he ignored postional needs after Pollard and now this...
Like 2025 will be worth a terd
 

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Jerry's lying. So why did he bad mouth Cooper so bad every team knew he would be released. It started getting close to the release date, no one was biting and gave him up for Netflix password. There were articles of teams who would have interest after his release
Yeah but that's how most trades that time of year go. No one is giving up a high draft pick to take on significant cap right at the start of the league year when they can just spend that same money in free agency without giving up a pick. Every team in the league would have had interest in Cooper as a FA, but they also would be able to set their own terms and contract structure for him on a new deal. Teams having interest really has nothing to do with what his trade value was at the time. I'm sure most of the league had interest in Adams before he was traded last week, but most teams didn't want to give up much due to his contract.
 

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I take no opinion on that last paragraph. My only point is that it wasn't just finances that drove Jerry to trade him. There were other issues involved. If anything, I kind of sided with Jerry on that.
You mean what seemed to be half-stepping some plays?
 

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Believe so.

Cooper's $20 million base salary was to become guaranteed March 21, forcing the Cowboys to act soon. And act they did.
https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dallas-trade-amari-cooper-dak-prescott-cleveland-browns-quit
That's inaccurate.

The team that actually pays him the base salary is the team on the hook for that guarantee. And it makes sense. Why would a team that is no longer paying his base salary have to guarantee those payments? The Cowboys were only responsible for what they paid him. Future payments, even guaranteed base salary, are the obligation of the team that is contractually obligated to make those payments, and in this case, it was the Browns who would be paying his base salary.

From Over the Cap:

Any guaranteed base salary that has yet to be paid out is considered dead cap on the contract. Should the player be released, all guaranteed salary will accelerate and be treated as dead cap in the current season. If traded, any unpaid guaranteed salary will transfer to the new team.
In this case, the "unpaid guaranteed salary" was the entire 2022 base salary. That transferred to the Browns. So from a guaranteed salary perspective, the Cowboys did not have to trade him before that date.
 

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That's inaccurate.

The team that actually pays him the base salary is the team on the hook for that guarantee. And it makes sense. Why would a team that is no longer paying his base salary have to guarantee those payments? The Cowboys were only responsible for what they paid him. Future payments, even guaranteed base salary, are the obligation of the team that is contractually obligated to make those payments, and in this case, it was the Browns who would be paying his base salary.
Just telling you what it says.

If a team had to acquiring the $20m+ cap hit with the guaranteed salary, he would have been untradeable anyway.
 

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Just telling you what it says.

If a team had to acquiring the $20m+ cap hit with the guaranteed salary, he would have been untradeable anyway.
What it says is his base salary became guaranteed on March 21st. But the Cowboys would not have been obligated to eat that guarantee since they traded him. In other words, if they had traded him to Cleveland on March 23rd 2 days after his base became guaranteed, there would have been no other cap implications for Dallas because the base salary guarantee would simply have transferred to the Browns. So in reality, the Cowboys didn't have to trade him before March 21st in order to avoid some unnecessary cap charges.

Now if that was some sort of roster bonus that became payable/guaranteed on March 21st, that then could have prompted them to move him prior to that date.

Remember the guarantee doesn't change the cap implications. Guaranteed salary or not, whomever had Cooper on their roster to start the season in 2022 would have to allocate $20MM in cap space to his base salary.
 

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What it says is his base salary became guaranteed on March 21st. But the Cowboys would not have been obligated to eat that guarantee since they traded him. In other words, if they had traded him to Cleveland on March 23rd 2 days after his base became guaranteed, there would have been no other cap implications for Dallas because the base salary guarantee would simply have transferred to the Browns. So in reality, the Cowboys didn't have to trade him before March 21st in order to avoid some unnecessary cap charges.

Now if that was some sort of roster bonus that became payable/guaranteed on March 21st, that then could have prompted them to move him prior to that date.

Remember the guarantee doesn't change the cap implications. Guaranteed salary or not, whomever had Cooper on their roster to start the season in 2022 would have to allocate $20MM in cap space to his base salary.
Amari's cap hit with the Browns in 2022 was $4.8m and Dallas had about $6m dead cap hit.

I don't remember and can't find the cap logistics for a trade that happened that long ago, but it was a cap dump.
 

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I did not say they were on par with each other. But Gallup was not a bad player. He was younger, cost less. And did not check out in games as Cooper did at times .
True, but the issue is whether trading Cooper at that time for what they got was the best option. Extending him at a lower cap hit and then making the trade like the Browns did made more sense to me. The only caveat is whether CeeDee’s progress would have been stunted.
 

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As much as I love to rag on Jerry every opportunity I get, the value of the Cooper deal really wasnt the problem. When you trade a high dollar player right before the start of free agency you're going to get minimal value back. The situation matters as much as the player involved.

The issue is Jerry thought he was smart for offloading a really good receiver in order to pay a guy coming off a major injury. Jerry thought he was playing chess.
Jerry overrated the entire receiver group and there may have been a lack of quality depth in that unit.
 

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Surprised he didn’t get pissed off when they mentioned it.
 

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Amari's cap hit with the Browns in 2022 was $4.8m and Dallas had about $6m dead cap hit.

I don't remember and can't find the cap logistics for a trade that happened that long ago, but it was a cap dump.
Because the Browns immediately restructured him upon acquiring him lowering his cap hit. They converted his base salary that year into a bonus and then spread it out over the remaining years on the contract. They cut around $15.2MM off their cap hit that year.

Dallas paid him a $10MM signing bonus when he signed in 2020 and that $6MM was the remaining pro-rated bonus (the signing bonus shares in 2022, 2023 and 2024 - $2MM per year).

Jerry is gaslighting people here. They got minimal return because Jerry was desperate to get Cooper off the roster. That's it. Any talk about how Cooper's value was depressed by the contract is a stretch because at the time, his contract was actually pretty favorable given a team acquiring him had to account for no future bonus money, only his base salaries, which were easy restructures to give more cap space (Browns did it twice). People predicted that the Browns would restructure Cooper immediately and sure enough, they did, 2 days after acquiring him.
 

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It’s obscene how badly the Cowboys front office gets hosed in trades. A 4th for Lance looks awfully shrewd for the 9ers in hindsight. Cowboys only good trade in forever was for Hank.
I'll never get upset kicking a 4th rounder for a young QB. It looks like it won't work out, but a 4th in the grand scheme of things is minimal compensation so hard to use that one as an example of getting hosed. The 49ers gave up way more to trade up to get him, and look what the Browns gave away for Watson, or the Broncos for Wilson.

No doubt, the Cowboys have made questionable trades for WRs like Galloway and Williams, and to an extent Cooper[Though gave us 3.5 productive years] but there have definitely been far worse trades.
 

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No wonder Jerry is always getting fleeced by other teams… he only sees the money side of the issue. GMs know when to take advantage of him. Even gets fleeced by his own players.
 

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Meh Cooper was an over paid uninspired turd. We didn't need him. The Browns don't need him. No one that spends any amount of time around the guy wants him. He is just another clown cashing pay checks. You take what you can get from those guys and move on.
 

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Because the Browns immediately restructured him upon acquiring him lowering his cap hit. They converted his base salary that year into a bonus and then spread it out over the remaining years on the contract. They cut around $15.2MM off their cap hit that year.

Dallas paid him a $10MM signing bonus when he signed in 2020 and that $6MM was the remaining pro-rated bonus (the signing bonus shares in 2022, 2023 and 2024 - $2MM per year).

Jerry is gaslighting people here. They got minimal return because Jerry was desperate to get Cooper off the roster. That's it. Any talk about how Cooper's value was depressed by the contract is a stretch because at the time, his contract was actually pretty favorable given a team acquiring him had to account for no future bonus money, only his base salaries, which were easy restructures to give more cap space (Browns did it twice). People predicted that the Browns would restructure Cooper immediately and sure enough, they did, 2 days after acquiring him.

Bingo.
 

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Because the Browns immediately restructured him upon acquiring him lowering his cap hit. They converted his base salary that year into a bonus and then spread it out over the remaining years on the contract. They cut around $15.2MM off their cap hit that year.

Dallas paid him a $10MM signing bonus when he signed in 2020 and that $6MM was the remaining pro-rated bonus (the signing bonus shares in 2022, 2023 and 2024 - $2MM per year).

Jerry is gaslighting people here. They got minimal return because Jerry was desperate to get Cooper off the roster. That's it. Any talk about how Cooper's value was depressed by the contract is a stretch because at the time, his contract was actually pretty favorable given a team acquiring him had to account for no future bonus money, only his base salaries, which were easy restructures to give more cap space (Browns did it twice). People predicted that the Browns would restructure Cooper immediately and sure enough, they did, 2 days after acquiring him.
Ok? If they restructured they had to pay long-term cash and commit multiple years at a high cap hit. The contract absolutely depressed his value at the time.

The Browns are now stuck with a $22.5m cap hit for Amari next season, when he won't be on the team.

Davante Adams went for a 1st and 2nd when he had no long-term contract obligations and then a 3rd when he did - almost identical. The value changes by 2 rounds for both of them.
 
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Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on @1053thefan when asked about WR Amari Cooper being traded from Cleveland to Buffalo last week for a 3rd-round pick after Dallas moved Cooper for a 5th-round pick in 2022:

“We went for the dollars. When we traded Amari Cooper, we saved almost $20 million for our cap and the future. We took a lesser draft pick to get that savings. When he made this move the other day, Cleveland went for more draft pick and less savings. It was very simple.”

This is probably the most logical explanation Jerry has provided recently. We also have to remember the Cowboys just handed Amari a new contract near the top of the WR market. The dollars Buffalo is investing is a lot less and if they didn't re-sign him in the offseason chances are they get a comp pick back for him likely atleast a 4th.
 

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Can the fans please get over this.

Jerry did Amari a favor, he now has a chance for a ring.

Big deal, Cooper wasnt getting one here.

Why keep him? Would he make the difference? Look around the past two decades, no. JJ keeps telling you people decade after decade, IM NOT INTERESTED IN A LOMBARDI

and we still hve posters, "JJ wants a Lombardi or it will bother his ego"

JJ: FFS these fans are dumb.
 
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