JJT on NFLN: Cowboys are 8-8 Team... vid post #39

[JonJon]

Just my opinion, but I totally disagree with you.

Its true that JJT does look not at things with Cowboy colored glasses on. Once you truly realize that and apply a bit of objectivity to your own thinking, he's nowhere near as negative as you might think.

Frankly, he's probably my favorite read amongst Dallas writers (departed Breer aside). Granted, he has no competition there, but much of the time I find there is thought behind his viewpoints rather than just schtick (Galloway) or agenda or parroting the latest drivel.

I rarely find him unjustifiably scolding or belittling.

But I do think there are plenty of Cowboy fans who not only choose not to look at their team objectively, but truly cannot do it. I think this thread is proof of that.

Well said.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Hell, why stop there.

If our secondary could tackle, our safeties could cover anyone, if the offensive line could play 16 solid games, if rb's didnt miss blocks in pass protection, if wr ran the right routes and if our head coach and special teams coach didnt keep getting fooled we would have been 16-0.

I understand romo and garrett are to blame for everything, and especially when he runs into teams like baltimore pittsburgh, ny, baltimore and philly. he is supposed to score 30+ against them, even though no one else had or does.

All we hear about all year is how good pittsburgh, ny and baltimore's defenses are from analysts, bloggers, radio guys....but then when romo plays against them suddenly they are perceived to be not that good.

All I heard about all year was rex ryan, ray lewis and ed reed from guys like jaimie dukes, deion sanders etc.....then when romo scores 24 has all the momentum in the final 3 minutes and just needs the ball back in his hands to win the game and the defense blows it because of another episode of a lack of fundamentals, toughness and discipline....its all on romo.

The ravens D dominates mcnabb, Ben R. and most every team they play, but when romo puts 24 on the board its not enough and he sucks.

Then all these same people in the next breath talk about how dominant the ravens defense is and how they are going to the superbowl....but when romo puts up 24 against them and loses he sucks.

I can only imagine how much guys like Tony Romo and Troy Aikman hate cowboys fans.

That Ravens game could summarize our entire season. Romo was slicing them up when he got protection late, but then we let two of the slowest RBs in football rumble for long TDs.

But you can't say 'Romo put up 24' on them. TC had one of the best games I've seen a young RB have against Baltimore. Romo did some good things late in the game, but he gave the Ravens D several opportunities early in the game for turnovers. He threw 3-4 very interceptable balls in the first half alone.

Its not totally black and white with Cowboys fans in regard to their position on Romo. Believe it or not there is a contingent out there that really likes him and thinks he is our best chance to win a Super Bowl, but simultaneously be able to get mad for him for turning the ball over.

 

[Bleu Star]

That Ravens game could summarize our entire season. Romo was slicing them up when he got protection late, but then we let two of the slowest RBs in football rumble for long TDs.

But you can't say 'Romo put up 24' on them. TC had one of the best games I've seen a young RB have against Baltimore. Romo did some good things late in the game, but he gave the Ravens D several opportunities early in the game for turnovers. He threw 3-4 very interceptable balls in the first half alone.

Its not totally black and white with Cowboys fans in regard to their position on Romo. Believe it or not there is a contingent out there that really likes him and thinks he is our best chance to win a Super Bowl, but simultaneously be able to get mad for him for turning the ball over.

I like that new avatar pic Apollo.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I like that new avatar pic Apollo.

He is a very hard kid not to like.

 

[Bleu Star]

He is a very hard kid not to like.

Most definitely.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Believe it or not there is a contingent out there that really likes him and thinks he is our best chance to win a Super Bowl, but simultaneously be able to get mad for him for turning the ball over.

I find those to be very intelligent fans. Too intelligent to get caught up in the Lets Focus 95% of the Blame on the Quarterback and Ignore Everything Else plebian line of thinking that they still seemingly fall way too easily into.

Theres no need to single out Romo (as Yakuza did) for being undisciplined on a team that leads the league in penalties and habitually comes up small in the most significant of moments. The entire team has one giant mess to clean up. Romo is just one of the few (very few) that actually does enough spectacular to match the dumbheaded.

Then it comes down to the question of who is going to hold the "Come To Jesus" meeting thats going to get these players to stop crapping the bed. Its amazing to me how much its been accepted that its the quarterbacks job to lay down the law, install discipline in his lackadaisical teammates, and the head coaches job is to draw up some defensive Xs and Os in the basement and meekly try to avoid being devoured by mean old JJT and scary, scary Tim McMahon in his daily press conferences. Troy Aikman couldnt do it in the Switzer-Gailey years, what makes anyone think Romo is going to do it under Wade.

 

[DallasEast]

So JJT thinks that Roy cannot be a #1 WR and he cant find anybody right now (other than Jerry) that thinks Roy can be a #1 WR. He then says that if a team does not have a #1 WR that commands a double, the defense loads up on the running game and the team has no shot..................



What WR for the Eagles commands a double, yet they make it to the NFC Championship game???

What WR for the Ravens commands a double, yet they make it to the AFC Championship game???

What WR for the Titans (league's best record), commands a double team???

What WR did the Pats have when they were winning all their SB trophies that commanded a double team???


JJT is a complete moron if he thinks that you have to have a #1 WR that commands a double to win in this league. I can name team after team after team that have JAGs at WR and go deep into the playoffs year in and year out. Philly's best WR last year was a rookie and they made it to the NFC Championship Game.

Sorry, Jean-Jacques Taylor, but...

 

[theebs]

I find those to be very intelligent fans. Too intelligent to get caught up in the Lets Focus 95% of the Blame on the Quarterback and Ignore Everything Else plebian line of thinking that they still seemingly fall way too easily into.

Theres no need to single out Romo (as Yakuza did) for being undisciplined on a team that leads the league in penalties and habitually comes up small in the most significant of moments. The entire team has one giant mess to clean up. Romo is just one of the few (very few) that actually does enough spectacular to match the dumbheaded.

Then it comes down to the question of who is going to hold the "Come To Jesus" meeting thats going to get these players to stop crapping the bed. Its amazing to me how much its been accepted that its the quarterbacks job to lay down the law, install discipline in his lackadaisical teammates, and the head coaches job is to draw up some defensive Xs and Os in the basement and meekly try to avoid being devoured by mean old JJT and scary, scary Tim McMahon in his daily press conferences. Troy Aikman couldnt do it in the Switzer-Gailey years, what makes anyone think Romo is going to do it under Wade.

Amen to that.

 

[fan62]

At this point of the year, I put the Cowboys at 9-7 (at best). I hope I am wrong. So.... 8-8 is not too far off.

I see teams stacking the line against our run and doing a lot of blitzing. I don't think, our offensive line can give Romo more than .75 to 1.5 seconds to get rid of the ball in 80% of the pass plays. Even if he has time, he will be scared someone is right on his back and make bad passes as last year. Between his broken pinky and being scared of going down, he felt hurried, even when he was not. I see a lot more of the same this year.

In order for Roy to step up his game, one of other wr's has to step up and be an above average 2nd receiver. I just don't see that happening with what we have now and the pressure Tony will be under.

Our TEs will be pressed into mainly blocking roles, so they will not have a good year.

I hope I am wrong, but Defense will have to win our games for us this year.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Funny how nervous JJT is on camera, his face twitches and he almost comes across angry.

He probably says 8-8 because last year the Cowboys made them all look like a fool by not meeting expectations.

 

[Bleu Star]

Funny how nervous JJT is on camera, his face twitches and he almost comes across angry.

He probably says 8-8 because last year the Cowboys made them all look like a fool by not meeting expectations.

There's definitely nothing wrong with tempering expectations... especially when evidence to do so has been presented time and time again. I just don't see the reason why some have gotten on JJT because of an 8-8 prediction. That's essentially what they are right now. (a talented middle of the road team that doesn't know how to put it all together... & gets zero help from the coaching ranks)

Fool me once...

 

[CATCH17]

It took a lot of crazy things last year for Dallas to go 9-7.

I mean we found some of the strangest ways to lose games last year and were still only 1 game away from 10-6.


But then again this team has been finding the strangest ways to lose for years.


I just think last year we were closer to 12-4 or 13-3 than we were 8-8.

Just stop finding absolutely absurd ways to lose games PLEASE.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Hell, why stop there.

If our secondary could tackle, our safeties could cover anyone, if the offensive line could play 16 solid games, if rb's didnt miss blocks in pass protection, if wr ran the right routes and if our head coach and special teams coach didnt keep getting fooled we would have been 16-0.

I understand romo and garrett are to blame for everything, and especially when he runs into teams like baltimore pittsburgh, ny, baltimore and philly. he is supposed to score 30+ against them, even though no one else had or does.

There were times last year the defense was downright dominating. People remember the Baltimore game, although they conveniently forget the defense played quite well for roughly 50 minutes of that game, but Romo kept turning the ball over and over again and to make it worse, the Ravens were getting the ball in Dallas territory.

The defense played nearly outstanding against the big bad Steelers and even had a memorable goal line stand. If Romo plays a *decent* game by any starting QB standards, Dallas wins that game hands down in Pittsburgh and does it quite easily. Instead he kept on turning over the ball and that kept Pittsburgh around and eventually the defense just couldn't keep shutting down the Steelers offense.

It happens, especially when your QB keeps turning the ball over.

Whether people like it or not, the NFL is a game about turnovers and passing efficiency. Championship teams win the turnover battle. Championship teams pass the ball more efficiently than their opponents when they play.

The defense absolutely has to be more consistent with its execution, but as long as Romo keeps turning the ball over at the rate he has been, it's going to be very hard for ANY team to win a lot of regular season games and in particular, win in the postseason.

I think Romo has the ability to limit his turnovers, but the right type of coaching and organization has to be in place because right now I see Romo as a guy who wants to do things his way and there's little recourse for him if he keeps turning the ball over. It's not like he's a threat to be benched right now.




YAKUZA

 

[InmanRoshi]

People remember the Baltimore game, although they conveniently forget the defense played quite well for roughly 50 minutes of that game

Im sure a lot of people 'conveniently' forget that Greg Norman had a really good first three days at the 1996 Masters as well.

If it really all comes down to passing efficiency, then were in good hands with a QB with a 90 plus career QB rating. Of course, something tells me the The Ravens made it to the AFC Championship based far more on their defense than Joe Flacco's stunning passing efficiency. Or the Titans and Kerry Collins . Not to say that those guys werent 'efficient', but they also knew that their primary role was simply not to screw up and let the defense win the game for them. Thats a far cry from what Romo was asked to do with this team which was basically 'Look, our defense might play a good game. Its equally possible they might give up 35. We have no idea. So the best way to win this game is for you to put up 30 plus. Oh, and by the way, were also the most sloppy, disorganized and most penalized team in the NFL, so were going to need you to put up that 30 plus in a lot of 3rd and long situations where the NFL average conversion rate is rather miniscule ... so good luck. Oh, by the way, while youre trying to put up 30 plus in impossible conversion situations ... dont force anything or hold on to the ball waiting for WRs to get down the field. Other than that, thats all we ask of you.'

Maybe with Wade becoming full time defensive coordinator then we might see a consistent defensive performance that will allow Romo to become 'efficient'. Of course, that also begs the question as to who is correcting the penalty problems and the overall rampant sloppy play of the entire 53 man roster with a full time defensive coordinator playing glorified part time head coach.

 

[Apollo Creed]

There were times last year the defense was downright dominating. People remember the Baltimore game, although they conveniently forget the defense played quite well for roughly 50 minutes of that game, but Romo kept turning the ball over and over again and to make it worse, the Ravens were getting the ball in Dallas territory.

The defense played nearly outstanding against the big bad Steelers and even had a memorable goal line stand. If Romo plays a *decent* game by any starting QB standards, Dallas wins that game hands down in Pittsburgh and does it quite easily. Instead he kept on turning over the ball and that kept Pittsburgh around and eventually the defense just couldn't keep shutting down the Steelers offense.

It happens, especially when your QB keeps turning the ball over.

Whether people like it or not, the NFL is a game about turnovers and passing efficiency. Championship teams win the turnover battle. Championship teams pass the ball more efficiently than their opponents when they play.

The defense absolutely has to be more consistent with its execution, but as long as Romo keeps turning the ball over at the rate he has been, it's going to be very hard for ANY team to win a lot of regular season games and in particular, win in the postseason.

I think Romo has the ability to limit his turnovers, but the right type of coaching and organization has to be in place because right now I see Romo as a guy who wants to do things his way and there's little recourse for him if he keeps turning the ball over. It's not like he's a threat to be benched right now.




YAKUZA

With all that said. Romo, turnovers and all - have bailed out the defense countless times more than the defense has 'helped' them out. Outside of the Tampa game last year, I can't remember many times in the Romo era that our defense has 'carried' us.

 

[Teague31]

if we stay healthy, we will 10 games at a minimum.

 

[dogunwo]

if we stay healthy, we will 10 games at a minimum.

Which 10 games?

 

[theebs]

deion sanders just did his usual act on fox 4 questioning romo and witten...why he keeps questioning witten is beyond me but he said 8-8 also.

He also said all hell is going to break loose by week 7 because we dont have owens and roy and romo wont get it done..

I recorded it and will put it up in a few...I should erase it, I really hate the guy.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Funny how nervous JJT is on camera, his face twitches and he almost comes across angry.

He probably says 8-8 because last year the Cowboys made them all look like a fool by not meeting expectations.

JJT is probably pissed at the Boyz because he picked the team to win the NFC and go to the SB last year.

 

[Rampage]

deion sanders just did his usual act on fox 4 questioning romo and witten...why he keeps questioning witten is beyond me but he said 8-8 also.

He also said all hell is going to break loose by week 7 because we dont have owens and roy and romo wont get it done..

I recorded it and will put it up in a few...I should erase it, I really hate the guy.

has Goss given his prediction?