KC Joyner on Brandon Lloyd

[jrockster77]

Ouch...


Hitting them with facts might not be the way to go though, you have to remember you're dealing with 'skins fans. You might be better off just calling them a doo-doo head or something and move on.

You must have missed the post two above yours in which I posted the FACT that Patten was injured. The coach that can good production out of a WR with a blown knee is not just good, he's magical.

 

[superpunk]

Mediocre is generous summer.

These guys long for the day when they can put themselves in a class with Ricky proehl, kevin Curtis, Chris Henry and eric Moulds.

 

[jrockster77]

really? what records did they break?

The single-season Skins rushing record (previously held by Stephen Davis) and the single-season receiving record (previously held by Bobby Mitchell). Portis also set a franchise record with 9 100-yard games.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Mediocre is generous summer.

These guys long for the day when they can put themselves in a class with Ricky proehl, kevin Curtis, Chris Henry and eric Moulds.

watch out for Pat Crayton, he has unbelievable potential and will be one of the best #2 WRs in the game

let's beat them at their own game

btw, Kevin Curtis is a hell of alot better than Lloyd

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The single-season Skins rushing record (previously held by Stephen Davis) and the single-season receiving record (previously held by Bobby Mitchell). Portis also set a franchise record with 9 100-yard games.

ah, I forgot about your sterling history of RBs, my bad :laugh1:

 

[superpunk]

watch out for Pat Crayton, he has unbelievable potential and will be one of the best #2 WRs in the game

let's beat them at their own game

btw, Kevin Curtis is a hell of alot better than Lloyd

Hence the "they dream of the day"......stay with me summer!:laugh1:

 

[jrockster77]

Mediocre is generous summer.

These guys long for the day when they can put themselves in a class with Ricky proehl, kevin Curtis, Chris Henry and eric Moulds.

Most receivers in the league look up to Eric Moulds...what's your point there? He's one of the league's elite, and has been his entire career.

Great example.

 

[Ken]

watch out for Pat Crayton, he has unbelievable potential and will be one of the best #2 WRs in the game

let's beat them at their own game

btw, Kevin Curtis is a hell of alot better than Lloyd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0XagLWA2B8

 

[NIBGoldenchild]

Brandon Lloyd has never caught more than 48% of the passes thrown to him - regardless of QB.

And El, once promoted, put up a single TD, and caught only 50% of his passes.

You do know that stat line takes into account more than just dropped passes. Other recievers who caught less than 50% of passes last season were Chris Chambers, Plaxico Burress, Randy Moss, and Joe Horn. You can use stats to say whatever you want, yet just one stat never tells the whole story.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You can use stats to say whatever you want, yet just one stat never tells the whole story.

we have more than one stat that says that Lloyd is mediocre

 

[superpunk]

Most receivers in the league look up to Eric Moulds...what's your point there? He's one of the league's elite, and has been his entire career.

Moulds hasn't been elite for a few years. He's decent now. Which is several levels above where Lloyd is, so maybe you're right.

Maybe I should have given him more attainable goals to start with. Maybe they could shoot for Sami Parker, Brian Finneran, Travis Taylor - in addition to the other guys I mentioned not named Eric Moulds.

 

[jrockster77]

Brandon Lloyd has never caught more than 48% of the passes thrown to him - regardless of QB.

And El, once promoted, put up a single TD, and caught only 50% of his passes.


Other than all that, I'd say the Skins are set for years. Because we all know how well the potential filled move of bringing in shrimpy David Patten in worked out for the amazing Gibbs. Why would we expect any less for these two?

Hmmm...over at ES we like to provide links to our stats...otherwise, we could just make up whatever we wanted to! How about it, superputz??

 

[Bob Sacamano]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0XagLWA2B8

:starspin

 

[jrockster77]

we have more than one stat that says that Lloyd is mediocre

That wouldn't be 4 receptions for 142 yards and 2 touchdowns, would it? Because that was an impressive stat line.

 

[superpunk]

You do know that stat line takes into account more than just dropped passes. Other recievers who caught less than 50% of passes last season were Chris Chambers, Plaxico Burress, Randy Moss, and Joe Horn. You can use stats to say whatever you want, yet just one stat never tells the whole story.

I know exactly what the stat involves. I also know what these players have done over the course of their careers, and what their reputations are. The stat, only confirms the reputation.

 

[CdnCowboy]

You do know that stat line takes into account more than just dropped passes. Other recievers who caught less than 50% of passes last season were Chris Chambers, Plaxico Burress, Randy Moss, and Joe Horn. You can use stats to say whatever you want, yet just one stat never tells the whole story.

Interesting, none of them have any superbowl rings either.

 

[Ken]

Hmmm...over at ES we like to provide links to our stats...otherwise, we could just make up whatever we wanted to! How about it, superputz??

So go back there....

 

[NIBGoldenchild]

we have more than one stat that says that Lloyd is mediocre

Please show them, and it was nice of you to ignore the rest of my post. I guess objectivity isn't a part of this discussion. The way you guys talk, I wonder why Lloyd is even still in the league.

 

[superpunk]

Hmmm...over at ES we like to provide links to our stats...otherwise, we could just make up whatever we wanted to! How about it, superputz??

Making up names already? Wow.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

Have a great time. Don't strain anything trying to think up more clever names that you can drop.

 

[NIBGoldenchild]

Interesting, none of them have any superbowl rings either.

At what point did this discussion have anything to do with superbowl rings? Yes, very interesting.