That’s fair…if he can float around 8ish sacks with great run. D it’s a homerun pick.
Espenesa or Karlaftis; that’s the hope for sure.
Could be like Tyler Smith, should get coached up better, but has the tools to become a quality player.
You can see his power, even when he went against better competition at the Senior Bowl, but all he has is a bull rush at this juncture. He needs to develop other moves. Not a real bendy guy, where he might kick inside against the pass. Less worried about him then the Linebacker we drafted.
Karlaftis is a pipe dream…dude was a pass rush technician coming out of college and has turned into a stud. He was my choice over Tyler in the hindsight draft and I stand on that take all day long considering what OLmen we could’ve gotten later that draft.
I hear ya, I’m going to cross my fingers and hold my breath. I’m just not optimistic bc his play profile / small school / lack of production terrifies me.
At worst he is a strong run defender and makes an impact right away.
We’ll see…the at worst scenario doesn’t warrant a premium pick for me.
Hey he was close on Pearsall!
Yeah, I’m talking more about his ceiling after development moreso than what he is in an immediate context.
Yea…in that case I agree George is a good comp for best case scenario but man he’s got miles to go to get there.
Kneeland does know how to use his hands. He does that against the run. He just wasn't taught pass rush technique. That actually was an issue with Micah Parsons at Penn St. He did not look like a top pass rusher because he had no technique. He looked like a blitzer only. But he worked on his hand technique before the season and all of a sudden showed elite pass rush ability. No telling how long it will take Kneeland but he shows a lot of promise just by his hand usuage in run situations,
Kneeland isn't the same category as either player mentioned, those two are considered rotational type of role players and both were considered day 3 prospects when they came out. Kneeland was a legitimate top 60 prospect. Golston/Fehoko offer zero pass rush abilities. Kneeland did have close to 40 pressures, 30 hurries and just 6 sacks. This tells me he struggles to finish. He probably wasn't getting great coaching on that level, let's see how they can develop him on the NFL level. Even right now, he offers impact as a rusher, he will blow up the pocket and allow others to clean it up!
I don’t think it’s fair to compare Kneeland or anyone really to Parsons. He’s arguably one of the freakiest athletes in the NFL and has a combination of burst / bend / speed that only a handful of dudes on the planet. Yes, he had to refine his technique but his ceiling was incredibly high due to his other worldly athleticism.
Yes - I understand Kneeland is a higher rated prospect than those guys but saying they have zero pass rush ability while Kneeland does seems like a bold take.
Teams are banking on Kneeland's athletic traits over his production. He should of been a better player with those testing numbers, question is can he develop with better coaching? Fehoko was the opposite, a poor athlete that had production on the college level, where many question how he will translate on the NFL level.
I get it…I understand there’s upside for pass rushing but I’m not using a premium pick on a small schooler that had borderline below average production. If we’re having this discussion about a 3/4th rounder it makes total sense.
The problem is Williams was also a massive reach lol…it’s the continuation of head scratchers in the 2nd round that is mind boggling.
Tell me how many players in the 2022 draft 2nd round have performed above average by your estimaton ? Your expectations are too high. How many sacks does a 2nd round pick have to have to justify his selection. And Kneeland by most experts was not a so called reach.
