NFL might ban hip drop tackle after Pollard injury

[Ken]

What are you failing to compute Kenneth?

The league making potential rule changes to reduce injuries does not equate to “that dirty dog did it intentionally to hurt Pollard.”

You useless tenderhearts keep motive mongering which is cousin to spouting off about conspiracy theories and all the same yahoos are chirping. Go figure.

K Buddy.

Ya, it is an opinion. I actually supported mine with two incidents in the same game while you call names.

Typical.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

K Buddy.

Ya, it is an opinion. I actually supported mine with two incidents in the same game while you call names.

Typical.

What? You showing two plays you surmised as “dirty” because you think you can psychoanalyze a play through your TV.

On brand dumb.

 

[Proof]

Crazy thing is if ward doesn't make that tackle then Pollard probably gets the 1st down, so all this move does is favor the offense more

why is that crazy?

 

[Ken]

What? You showing two plays you surmised as “dirty” because you think you can psychoanalyze a play through your TV.

On brand dumb.

No dumb is telling people to "Shut Up" when they point out a type of play is dangerous and needs to be a penalty and the NFL agrees with that person.

Dumb is saying something isn't while providing no proof but name calling.

 

[glimmerman]

It’s very hard to keep them from doing that. Grabbing from behind and landing on the back of the legs is a very dangerous tackle. It’s how Dak was hurt and Elliot against the vikings game last year. But not sure if it’s done intentionally.

 

[erod]

Not only are they going to get rid of it, it'll be like this weekends Pro Bowl sooner than you think.

 

[America's Cowboy]

What are you failing to compute Kenneth?

The league making potential rule changes to reduce injuries does not equate to “that dirty dog did it intentionally to hurt Pollard.”

You tenderhearts keep motive mongering which is cousin to spouting off about conspiracy theories and all the same yahoos are chirping. Go figure.

Let me go "tackle" (steer wrestle) you from behind. I bet you will change your mind "pronto" about this "tackle" continuing to be allowed.

 

[America's Cowboy]

why is that crazy?

He's another team's fan.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

No dumb is telling people to "Shut Up" when they point out a type of play is dangerous and needs to be a penalty and the NFL agrees with that person.

Dumb is saying something isn't while providing no proof but name calling.

No, no. Don’t try to reframe it now.

You point called it dirty and insinuated it was intentional to hurt Pollard.

 

[Ken]

No, no. Don’t try to reframe it now.

You point called it dirty and insinuated it was intentional to hurt Pollard.

I showed two incidences of the same type of play vs our two best offensive players in the same game.

What you got besides name calling?

 

[Ranching]

Pollard isn't a full time back. That's why he didn't start in college, but the local geniuses think he is.

 

[acr731]

What are you failing to compute Kenneth?

The league making potential rule changes to reduce injuries does not equate to “that dirty dog did it intentionally to hurt Pollard.”

You tenderhearts keep motive mongering which is cousin to spouting off about conspiracy theories and all the same yahoos are chirping. Go figure.

No conspiracy theories here, you're entitled to think what you want. Just consider one thing - If you launch a 250 lb body onto the back of the legs of another person, what do you think the risk of injury might be? I'm guessing it would be very high. Dak's ankle snapped in two after the same technique, were you ok with the tackle then? Mahomes and Pollard both got injured, one more than the other, after the same tackle. Is it ok they got injured? Without doing the research I'm sure there are many more examples what the potential risks are with this type of technique.

Whether or not there was intent to injure shouldn't even be part of the question. It's an extremely high risk technique that should have been removed from the game years ago. Would it really pussify the game? If you think that then look at the Dallas defense - how often do they use this technique? I can't remember a single tackle this season where Dallas used this technique, and their defense was their strength.

So should this technique be allowed to be a part of the game?

 

[Redline360]

The majority of these types of tackles can be avoided the most of the time. Granted some plays just happen way to fast but if you go back and watch slow mo replays of injuries from this type of tackling you can see the vast majority of them tackled this way on purpose.

This type of tackling is on par if not worse then the horse caller tackle. It's dirty plain and simple. Should have been banned long ago and I'm the type of person who hates this p***y soft league nowadays.

If you don't think hip dropping tackling isn't dirty you're some kind of special stupid

 

[RonnieT24]

The majority of these types of tackles can be avoided the most of the time. Granted some plays just happen way to fast but if you go back and watch slow mo replays of injuries from this type of tackling you can see the vast majority of them tackled this way on purpose.

This type of tackling is on par if not worse then the horse caller tackle. It's dirty plain and simple. Should have been banned long ago and I'm the type of person who hates this p***y soft league nowadays.

If you don't think hip dropping tackling isn't dirty you're some kind of special stupid

This tackle is essentially the horse collar tackle from a different angle. I would not be opposed to banning any tackling technique that involved throwing your weight into the ball carrier's legs from behind. The act of flinging one's weight into the ballcarrier's legs is the key element that creates the injury risk. To be honest it's lazy. If you just wrap up like you're taught from pee wee football on up there is no need to use this technique. I don't mind seeing guys take hits.. but I am morally opposed to what snapping of legs. The tackler is basically tripping the ball carrier from behind. I think it can be taken out of the game. Sure there will be an adjustment period.. but guys will adapt just like they've done with the horse collar and not being able to breathe on (certain) QBs.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I showed two incidences of the same type of play vs our two best offensive players in the same game.

What you got besides name calling?

Facts.

What do you have?

Motive mongering and arm chair psychoanalysis?

BTW, your second example is even more laughable than the first.

 

[CowboyFrog]

How the heck do you "go forward with your tackle when you're trying to catch the guy from behind and you're both running?
I don't know. Sounds like a very complicated concept. A horse collar is an easy one to avoid, but I'm not so sure this hip drop thing would be so easy to avoid or even to call except under some very clear cut circumstances.

you drive through your tackle just like any other tackle, you wrap up and go forward dont flig your lower body into the back of thier legs, thats whats causing injuries. Dont grab and lean back go forrward through your tackle and this would stop.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

No conspiracy theories here, you're entitled to think what you want. Just consider one thing - If you launch a 250 lb body onto the back of the legs of another person, what do you think the risk of injury might be? I'm guessing it would be very high. Dak's ankle snapped in two after the same technique, were you ok with the tackle then? Mahomes and Pollard both got injured, one more than the other, after the same tackle. Is it ok they got injured? Without doing the research I'm sure there are many more examples what the potential risks are with this type of technique.

Whether or not there was intent to injure shouldn't even be part of the question. It's an extremely high risk technique that should have been removed from the game years ago. Would it really pussify the game? If you think that then look at the Dallas defense - how often do they use this technique? I can't remember a single tackle this season where Dallas used this technique, and their defense was their strength.

So should this technique be allowed to be a part of the game?

The reason why intent is being brought up is because there are those on the thread that claimed the 49ers player injured Pollard with purposeful intent.

They are claiming special knowledge of the opposing player’s intent/motives aka playing “dirty.”

End of story.

I have no issue looking at the technique objectively and saying it can/should be looked at to prevent future injuries.

 

[FloridaRob]

some players are smart enough to know how to make that tackle and position their body on the player to cause the most pain and in some cases putting that player on the shelf for a long time. I agree with doing away with it but I dont know how you replace it. Tackle below the hips and dont land on the legs? Some guys would slide right off the ball carrier. It is a tackle tho that causes players to end their season at best and career at worse.

 

[KJJ]

The NFL is going to make it impossible to play defense.

 

[Ken]

Facts.

What do you have?

Motive mongering and arm chair psychoanalysis?

BTW, your second example is even more laughable than the first.

It was the same tackle.

Only difference was, Lamb hobbled for a bit afterward and didn't suffer a season-ending leg injury.

We are done here since you can't have an honest conversation.