Not a single "elite" starter in Dallas? PFF Depth Chart

[MichaelWinicki]

Depends on what you would consider elite.

If elite, to you, means the very very best, then no he's not elite.

If you consider it top 3, then Tyron is in the conversation.

If you consider it top 5, then Tyron is certainly elite. No question.

So whaddya say? Also, who would you have better than Tyron at this point?

PFF had Trent Williams and Joe Thomas as #1 & #2. I don't know if anyone can quibble with either of those guys being the top "dogs" at this point.

Then you had a big group of tackles that Tryon that was part of which was very good... Guys like Joe Staley, Jason Peters and Jordan Gross. I'm betting if you visited the forums of the teams those guys played on you're hearing the same gripes from their fans, "He (our offensive tackle) is elite, this PFF stuff is bogus".

Tyron just needs to improve his game a smidgen to be an elite OT.

 

[Wayne02]

PFF is being pretty stingy in their grading of Elite, which they should be in my opinion. Here is a list of who they've graded as Elite thus far by team (They are up to the Patriots depth chart)

Arizona: Calais Campbell
Atlanta: None
Baltimore: None
Buffalo: Kyle Williams
Carolina: None
Chicago: Brandon Marshall
Cincinnati: Andrew Whitworth, Geno Atkins
Cleveland: Joe Thomas
Dallas: None
Denver: Peyton Manning, Von Miller
Detroit: Calvin Johnson, Ndamukong Suh
Green Bay: Aaron Rodgers, Josh Sitton, Clay Matthews
Houston: Andre Johnson, JJ Watt
Indianapolis: Robert Mathis
Jacksonville: None
Kansas City: Jamaal Charles, Dontari Poe, Justin Houston, Eric Berry
Miami: None
Minnesota: Adrian Peterson
New England: Rob Gronkowski, Darrelle Revis, Devin McCourty


Matt Prater and Steven Gostkowski were their two highest graded kickers last season, and they graded neither as Elite.

Eric Berry elite? Tom Brady not elite? Enough said about the legitimacy of PFF

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Eric Berry elite? Tom Brady not elite? Enough said about the legitimacy of PFF

Eric Berry was terrific last year... not sure why you're slighting him.

Brady was good, very good, but to think he was as good as Peyton, Brees or even Rivers last year is off base. I paid a lot of attention to Brady last season– he was my fantasy football QB and left me needing more out of him a couple of times. Remember Brady lost his consecutive game TD passing streak last season, and he came close to doing it a couple of times.

 

[burmafrd]

IF top 5 is elite then Tyron, and Bailey are. LP has not had a bad snap or a snap that can be said to have contributed to either a bad FG or blocked punt in years. So how is he not elite?

 

[dstovall5]

And folks bag on Jerry about over-rating the talent on this team– It seems the fan base falls into the same trap.

After all, that is what makes us fans. We all have some degree of bias that favors our team, heck, that's how life is in general with things.

 

[Alexander]

IF top 5 is elite then Tyron, and Bailey are. LP has not had a bad snap or a snap that can be said to have contributed to either a bad FG or blocked punt in years. So how is he not elite?

They downgraded him because according to them he had some snaps that had to be "compensated for" and "missed tackles" on kick coverage. It is absurd.

Think about that kind of standard for a QB. What is next? Downgrading a QB because they arbitrarily decide that a pass was too high, too wide?

 

[Wayne02]

Eric Berry was terrific last year... not sure why you're slighting him.

Brady was good, very good, but to think he was as good as Peyton, Brees or even Rivers last year is off base. I paid a lot of attention to Brady last season– he was my fantasy football QB and left me needing more out of him a couple of times. Remember Brady lost his consecutive game TD passing streak last season, and he came close to doing it a couple of times.

I'm a UT fan and I'm still pissed that Eric Berry won the Thorpe Award over Earl Thomas when he didn't deserve it. I don't care what kind of numbers Phillip Rivers puts up, he still throws like a school girl and can never rate him over Brady. It may be irrational but it's how I feel and I'm sticking to it.

 

[dstovall5]

So far, they only have one "elite" TE on their depth charts, and it's Rob Gronkowski.

... Jimmy Graham?! Vernon Davis?! Jason Witten?! Lol these are some brutal (strict) rankings.

 

[dstovall5]

So Andre Johnson is elite but Dez isn't? Dez had 8 more TDs last year.

If you're going to put Andre Johnson as elite, then you have to put Dez, A.J, Julio, Demaryius, Gordon, Jeffery, and possibly Marshall as well ... In other words, Andre is not elite (or top 3/5) in comparison with the current WRs in todays NFL, there's some BAD BOYS right now.

 

[Risen Star]

Dez and Tyron are certainly elite. Frederick and Martin can be.

 

[casmith07]

Jesus Christ I hate the word "elite" now.

 

[Risen Star]

PFF had Trent Williams and Joe Thomas as #1 & #2. I don't know if anyone can quibble with either of those guys being the top "dogs" at this point.

Then you had a big group of tackles that Tryon that was part of which was very good... Guys like Joe Staley, Jason Peters and Jordan Gross. I'm betting if you visited the forums of the teams those guys played on you're hearing the same gripes from their fans, "He (our offensive tackle) is elite, this PFF stuff is bogus".

Tyron just needs to improve his game a smidgen to be an elite OT.

Tyron is better than Williams and at least on par with Thomas.

He's elite. If he's not elite on your scale, get a new scale.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Tyron is better than Williams and at least on par with Thomas.

He's elite. If he's not elite on your scale, get a new scale.

I don't think there's a lot that separates them.

 

[Fletch]

Now this should stir the hornets nest


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/05/22/2014-depth-chart-dallas-cowboys/

Romo and Dez are indeed ELITE! Romo has the stats, but never had the team to help. Plus, he's shouldered most of the blame for every loss due to his position and because it's the Dallas Cowboys. Dez is ELITE and has proven his worth with each and every season. The so-called red-flag on-the-field episodes should be withheld because Bryant is a winner and hates losing. Pumpers and Realists should agree whole-heartedly on that. The rest are status quo (where they should be until proven otherwise)!

 

[Fletch]

This should be the year to silence critics. Well, every year should be the year, but we all know that doesn't always happen. But this year is a good year to shut up, and produce!!! It's time to produce. I know we've had major injuries, but we have got to finally get on the right side of the injury bug for once, and start getting better overall. This is a must. Losing Sean Lee does not help that cause, but thankfully it happened now and not later. The injury to Lee should prompt the coaching staff to make plug the RIGHT guy or guys into the lineup. When it comes to Lee's spot, it's on the staff to make us better.

 

[Section446]

Romo was much better than Brady last year.

That ChldsPlay, he's a funny guy.

 

[Kevinicus]

Hmm. No.

Brady did an amazing job consider the (expletive) he had going for him at WR, TE (for much of the season) and even at RB. And considering the NE OL didn't pass protect as well as what the Cowboy OL did for Romo... I have no problems giving Brady the nod.

Brady was pretty horrible the first half of the season, and it wasn't because of his receivers.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Brady was pretty horrible the first half of the season, and it wasn't because of his receivers.

The Patriots WR leader in snaps: Julian Edelman 1038 snaps
The Patriots TE leader in snaps: Michael Hoomanawanui 701 snaps
The Patriots RB leader in snaps: Stephen Ridley 341 snaps

The Cowboys WR leader in snaps: Dez Bryant 959 snaps
The Cowboys TE leader in snaps: Jason Witten 1012 snaps
The Cowboys RB leader in snaps: DeMarco Murray 690 snaps


Yeah, it had nothing to do with the talent around Brady.

 

[dstovall5]

I watched Brady play a lot last year, it's true he didn't have a lot of help, but he missed more throws then usual I thought. Maybe it could've been the miscommunication (likely), but I think there's more to it then that. I know he also had suffered an injury to his throwing hand (ligament), so that possibly affected him as well. As for the Romo had a better year then Brady, they both had good years, and they both had rough patches throughout the season. I think you could make a case for either or.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Eric Berry was terrific last year.

A lot of people up here don't agree with that and trust me they are big time homers. Very good? Yes. Terrific? Not so much.