Parsons next contract

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Is there no limit to the amount of money you would pay Parsons? Is there no amount of draft picks you would accept in trade? Of course not- so now it's just a debate about how much money or how many draft picks.

Your statement that the roster would be full of JAGS if it was up to me is hogwash! I've never advocated that. I will grant you the point that "draft picks don't guarantee anything". This is true, and Parsons is one hell of a "bird in the hand".

My original statement, which I stand by, is it would be good to know what Parson's trade value is before signing him to an extraordinarily expensive contract. It's just common sense, and good business.

There is no dispute that Parsons is a game changing player. How long he can maintain that level, and what percentage of the team's salary cap is warranted are up to debate.
it does not make good sense. You are talking about young guys with fragile egos. You dont look to other teams to find out trade value unless you are going to trade them. They find out you were shopping them and they get butt hurt then demand to be traded because they were "Disrespected."
 

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Sad part is only one of those players is on a team that could have went to SB last year.
 

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it does not make good sense. You are talking about young guys with fragile egos. You dont look to other teams to find out trade value unless you are going to trade them. They find out you were shopping them and they get butt hurt then demand to be traded because they were "Disrespected."
Doesn't sound like a player with the mental fortitude to make it to a super bowl to me. If they can't take the reality better to part ways now when you can still get valuie.
 

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Doesn't sound like a player with the mental fortitude to make it to a super bowl to me. If they can't take the reality better to part ways now when you can still get valuie.
bahaha..... antonio brown? TO? Moss?
 

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If I offered you the following in a vacuum what would you pick:

25 million to spend on players and 2 first round picks.

25 million to spend on one player.
I would pay $25 million on one player if it’s a great game changing player that comes around maybe once every decade or so. Spending 25 million on multiple players that are solid players but nothing special and two first round draft picks that may end up being busts aren’t going to get me to a Super Bowl.
 

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How many sacks did Micah get against the 49ers both playoff seasons? 0. But he wants to be paid like the best?

Remember how he was talking smack against Dak and D-Law getting overpaid? Well, KARMA!

Don't overpay for Micah. Use his own words (and lack of playoff production) against him.
How did Dak do against SF during the 2 playoff losses? Perhaps time for Dak to give back a lot of his money then.
 

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Of course not that is why it has nothing to do with the argument. Parsons and Mahomes do not belong in the same discussion. Parsons may not be up for sale but to imply that he should not be, similar to Mahomes, is foolishness IMHO. Go back and review the career of Khalil Mack. It is a worth while case study given the topic of this discussion.
You weren’t part of the argument I was having. The fan I was arguing with claimed every player has a price. That’s how Patrick Mahomes came up. I can assure you there’s no price that KC would trade Mahomes. They wouldn’t even bother listening to offers. It’s foolishness to think that a player like Mahomes should be for sale, which is what you’re saying. You’re saying go back and review the career of Khalil Mack. My response is go back and review the career of Lawrence Taylor, who Parsons has been compared to. The best season the Raiders had in more than two decades was in 2016 when they had Khalil Mack. He was putting up double digit sacks for them every season. They were clearly a better team with Mack and the draft picks they got for him never made them a better team because their defense regressed after Mack left. The Cowboys defense would never be the same without Parsons.
 

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Is there no limit to the amount of money you would pay Parsons? Is there no amount of draft picks you would accept in trade? Of course not- so now it's just a debate about how much money or how many draft picks.

Your statement that the roster would be full of JAGS if it was up to me is hogwash! I've never advocated that. I will grant you the point that "draft picks don't guarantee anything". This is true, and Parsons is one hell of a "bird in the hand".

My original statement, which I stand by, is it would be good to know what Parson's trade value is before signing him to an extraordinarily expensive contract. It's just common sense, and good business.

There is no dispute that Parsons is a game changing player. How long he can maintain that level, and what percentage of the team's salary cap is warranted are up to debate.
If you want me to answer questions then answer mine. You claimed every player has a price. If so do you believe a player like Patrick Mahomes should be up for sale for the right price yes or no?
 

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Is he a LBer or an Edge? It matters......Stephen Jones has often said he will never set the market. Parsons's next contract could significantly change that .........






You need to start with the QB contract as a starting point...

10 years, 1 Billion dollars...
 

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If you want me to answer questions then answer mine. You claimed every player has a price. If so do you believe a player like Patrick Mahomes should be up for sale for the right price yes or no?
There is a level of compensation, however unrealistic, that KC would accept for Mahomes. So yes, they would absolutely, 100%, trade Mahomes for some price.

The fact that no team is willing to pay that price is completely beside the point.
 

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If you want me to answer questions then answer mine
So if Parsons is demanding a 10 year, $400 million, fully guaranteed contract, and another team offers 5 first round picks and 5 second round picks- are you taking the deal?

Yes or No ?
 

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How did Dak do against SF during the 2 playoff losses? Perhaps time for Dak to give back a lot of his money then.
Other than the 2 interceptions this last time around, Dak played OK. He also played OK the first playoff time around in 2021, but he should have gotten better results then since he had a better receiving crew. I have never liked Dak being overpaid, so I'm with you on hoping he would give some money back or give the team a discount if he gets extended.
 

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There is a level of compensation, however unrealistic, that KC would accept for Mahomes. So yes, they would absolutely, 100%, trade Mahomes for some price.

The fact that no team is willing to pay that price is completely beside the point.
You’re saying KC would absolutely 100% trade Mahomes for the right price? Yeah, right!:laugh: You would definitely trade him for the right price. KC is lucky you’re not running their team. Lol
 

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His position doesn’t matter
He is gonna be the highest paid defensive player in the NFL
That is as guaranteed as death and taxes
 

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You need to start with the QB contract as a starting point...

10 years, 1 Billion dollars...
Exactly why I would get this rolling next year......I mean see what kind of numbers he's thinking. Hell, he may be too unsignable for Jerry and Stephen's taste. If you know that on his 4th rookie year........you have time to plan other options
 

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So if Parsons is demanding a 10 year, $400 million, fully guaranteed contract, and another team offers 5 first round picks and 5 second round picks- are you taking the deal?

Yes or No ?
You’re talking complete fantasy nonsense! He’s not going to demand that kind of money and another team isn’t going to offer 5 first round picks and 5 second round picks for him but I’ll play your game. First off no team in NFL history has ever offered that many premium picks for a player. Of course I would trade him for that haul, anyone would! However, I wouldn’t trade Patrick Mahomes for that deal. KC has been to 3 Super Bowls in the past four years, with two Super Bowl wins and is building a dynasty with him. They’re experiencing what every organization dreams of. They hadn’t been to a Super Bowl in 50 years until they landed Mahomes. He’s already a slam dunk first ballot Hall of Famer and he’s still early in his career. KC isn’t about to throw all that away for 10 unproven players in the draft. No team would that has what KC has going for them right now. You need to come back to reality!
 

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You’re saying KC would absolutely 100% trade Mahomes for the right price? Yeah, right!:laugh: You would definitely trade him for the right price. KC is lucky you’re not running their team. Lol
If a team offered me 15 first round picks and 10 second round picks, you're darn right I'm trading him. KC would too.

In business, everything is for sale at the right price. Only amateurs think otherwise.
 

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Of course I would trade him for that haul, anyone would
Great! Now we're in complete agreement.

Since we've agreed that there is some price we would be willing to accept, the only question is what that price is. Reasonable people may disagree on what they would accept...
 
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