Prescott's Drive

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1) Zeke's played an extra game than most.

2) Did that evolution of the game occur since 2014? Because Zeke Elliott is on pace for about 350 carries. Murray had nearly 400 that year.

a. at least 4 st8 100 yd games as a rookie something TD and ES never did

b. broke T Dorsett's rookie rushing record

c. only RBs in NFL history to rush for 1000yds in their ninth game are A Peterson, E Dickerson and EE

d. has an incredible 4.9 YPC avg

e. leads NFL in rushing

f. has chance to break E Dickerson's record and an outside chance of gaining 2000 yds this season

g. blocks well

h. receives well including screens

i. incredible speed thru the line which is especially predictive of success in the NFL; another measurement of burst
 

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Are you saying romo was a game manager in 2014? .
Aye, there's the rub. There's no real gap between the two seasons. If you're dismissive of what Prescott has done so far this year, you must not have thought much of Romo's best season.

Passer rating
2014 Romo 113.2
2016 Prescott 108.6

Passer rating, late & close
2014 Romo 114.6
2016 Prescott 108.7

Yards/Game
2014 Romo 259.7
2016 Prescott 265.9

Touchdowns/Turnovers
2014 Romo 34/12 (2.83)
2016 Prescott 24/6 (4.00)

Offense: Points/Drive
2014 2.61
2016 2.90

Conversion rate by pass or QB run, 3rd down
2014 Romo 48.3%
2016 Prescott 44.7%

QB Yards as a % of Total Yards
2014 Romo 61.4%
2016 Prescott 67.2%

Passer rating vs. Top 12 Defenses
(according to defensive passer rating, includes playoffs)
2014 Romo 100.5 (5 games, avg rank 6th)
2016 Prescott 97.5 (4 games, avg rank 6th)
 

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a. at least 4 st8 100 yd games as a rookie something TD and ES never did

b. broke T Dorsett's rookie rushing record

c. only RBs in NFL history to rush for 1000yds in their ninth game are A Peterson, E Dickerson and EE

d. has an incredible 4.9 YPC avg

e. leads NFL in rushing

f. has chance to break E Dickerson's record and an outside chance of gaining 2000 yds this season

g. blocks well

h. receives well including screens

i. incredible speed thru the line which is especially predictive of success in the NFL; another measurement of burst

j. All of that completely irrelevant to my point.
 

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Aye, there's the rub. There's no real gap between the two seasons. If you're dismissive of what Prescott has done so far this year, you must not have thought much of Romo's best season.

Passer rating
2014 Romo 113.2
2016 Prescott 108.6

Passer rating, late & close
2014 Romo 114.6
2016 Prescott 108.7

Yards/Game
2014 Romo 259.7
2016 Prescott 265.9

Touchdowns/Turnovers
2014 Romo 34/12 (2.83)
2016 Prescott 24/6 (4.00)

Offense: Points/Drive
2014 2.61
2016 2.90

Conversion rate by pass or QB run, 3rd down
2014 Romo 48.3%
2016 Prescott 44.7%

QB Yards as a % of Total Yards
2014 Romo 61.4%
2016 Prescott 67.2%

Passer rating vs. Top 12 Defenses
(according to defensive passer rating, includes playoffs)
2014 Romo 100.5 (5 games, avg rank 6th)
2016 Prescott 97.5 (4 games, avg rank 6th)
Ayyyyyyyyyyyye
 

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4,000 yards sound nice until you realize it only puts him at best mid pack in the league. Or average. Or game managerish.

He sits right now 18th in yards per game. With a great OL and skill position players. Run that through your calculator and tell me what you think.

Once upon a time there was a QB with a great OL and skill position players. That QB never passed for more than 3,500 yards in a season and only passed for more than 20 TD's in one season as his team relied on its strong running game. By your definition, he was very much a game manager. That game manager was non other than our own Hall of Fame QB Troy Aikman.
 

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Because of the society we live in today. Men have been emasculated. We're too concerned with safety and feelings these days. Nobody talked about Emmitt's well being and future then. They just rode the horse and were rewarded for it with the best career a RB has ever had. Now we have the same type of talent and we're busy assigning a series each half to a lesser player and all 3rd downs to a complete bum.

If you go down you go down swinging. You play your best hand. The Cowboys' best shot at winning is Ezekiel Elliott on the field and being the focal point of every game. Just like Emmitt Smith was.

Imagine doing this to Emmitt. Imagine taking Emmitt out on 3rd downs for Sherman Williams or Derrick Lassic. People would have thought you were nuts yet this crap is accepted with Zeke and Dunbar.

Emmitt didn't carry the load his rookie year.

I just got through watching one of the finest RBs of our time Ladanian Tomlinson describe how grueling finishing his first season was. And Im not sure I know anyone that trained harder than he did.

Not sure how you could even venture a guess at how used up Zeke is at this point having never played the sport at that level.
 

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The fact that he's on pace for nearly 4,000 yards passing suggests he's not a game manager, but if you mean in this game only, his passing and rushing yardage accounted for two-thirds of our offense.

And we lose the game without that drive.

Exactly...
 

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Hmmm...In fairness Clove I can't agree with that last line at all..

On the strip fumble Free got beat right off the snap but overall Dak had quite a bit of time. His other two sacks would definitely fall under the category "coverage sacks."

Dak actually had a lot of time and was taking it.

The Vikings secondary is the real deal. We didn't have guys coming open a lot.
Okay, I guess he was scrambling for the heck of it then. My bad :rolleyes:
 

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Cowboys' first drive of the 2nd quarter:
1 (1st-10 Dal 16) Elliot split wide right, pass to Elliott loses 2 yards
2 (2nd-12 Dal 14) Vikings run blitz, Elliot run loses 1 yard
3 (3rd-13 Dal 13) Dunbar in for Elliot, Prescott pressured, 14-yd scramble for first down
4 (1st-10 Dal 27) Elliot runs for 2 yards
5 (2nd-8 Dal 29) Elliot out, empty backfield, Prescott pass to Beasley gains 13 yards, first down
6 (1st-10 Dal 42) Elliot runs for 1 yard
7 (2nd-9 Dal 43) Elliot out, empty backfield, Prescott pass to Bryant gains 56 yards, first down
8 (1st-goal Min 1) Elliot runs for 1 yard, touchdown

On this 8-play, 84-yard drive, Dallas gained 1 yard on 5 plays when Elliott was in game, and 83 yards on 3 plays when he wasn't. Zeke was standing on the sideline when most of the damage was done. This was a case of a defense doing almost everything according to plan to stop Elliot, and the offense succeeding anyway.

It's a rookie "game manager" QB forced to be one-dimensional against the best defense he's ever faced, and having success without the player considered his offense's best weapon. It's just one drive, but it's a drive that should never have happened, which makes it a game the Cowboys should never have won.

Prescott vs top 8 pass defenses (DVOA)
before game-tying drive vs Eagles
34 of 67 375 yd 0 td 1 int 61.5
since
49 of 71 579 yd 6 td 0 int 121.7

The only QB with over a 103 passer rating in 10 of the first 12 games of a season are Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, and Dak Prescott.

One drive tells very little
 

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This from the guy who said we weren't a top 10 team.

This guy wouldn't know talent even if the talent No Vaseline'd him!

He says we can continue to win if we continue to replenish the talent: That can be said about every successful QB in the history of this league. Talent drops around them, the winning will drop also. See Aaron Rodgers and the guy in Indy.

Name me a QB who thrived with depleted talent. You can't. They're only as good as the people around them allow them to be. Every last one of them.

Thanks for letting us know the player he is at game 12 of his career, will make no progress and he'll be the same player at game 112 of his career. All of Daks critics are guilty of this.

Did Dak land in great situation? Bet your *** he did! But so did Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, and the vastly overrated Tom Brady amongst many others. Tony Romo

A guy like Rivers... not so much

"No Vaselined"

Lmaaaoooooooooooo hahhahahahahahaha
 

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Without the conversion on 3rd and 13, we're punting from our end zone and that play never happens.

That was the first time a team converted on 3rd and 10+ from inside its own 20 against the Vikings this year. League-wide, the conversion rate in that situation is 14.5% in one-score games.
LOL percy that is good point, but the doubters and haters , that will just go in one ear
and come right back out the other ear , as there isnt much in there if you know what I mean.
It looks like we have 1 or 2 who still favor wentz over Dak, and then we have the die hard
Romo crowd, and they will never like Dak.

They have not enjoyed the season, and wont really enjoy the future ones.
Nothing Dak does will satisfy or please them.

11-1..... not good enough, tony would be 12-0, it is all the ol and Elliot, any qb could do this
with this team. ( like we heard in 2014 any RB would do same as Murray with this line)
You can quote great stats, cite records broken, new records set, on pace for more records,
and it wont matter, they just dont like Dak, because he replaced Tony.

When Dak plays, I bet they look for any mistake or flaw they can sound off about.
They have been waiting for more ints, so they could go on and on about it,
but Dak hasnt thrown any more, so I know that is a thorn in their side. lol

I think they think if they hate dak enough, and put him down, hope he loses a big game
like first playoff game, or giants game, that Tony will get the job back lol, they just dont get it.

I was in chat thread for last game and early in game, like end of 1st qtr, a couple said
it was Romo time ! lol again they think tony is just gonna come in after a big hook
pulls dak off the field. :muttley:

So Dak does what no other qb including wentz has done this year against vikings D, and
to me that is impressive, also that first run was the start of that scoring drive, and Dallas had
done nothing up to that point vikings D had dominated .

Dak is like Montana, doesnt have powerful arm, and has some other flaws, but he is a smart
guy, who just has a knack for winning games.

I saw Joe Montana play Texas in cottonbowl way back when, and I had only seen him that one time, but I knew he was a winner, just by how he played in that game.
Later when joe wound up a 49er, I was hoping dallas would draft him, I wound up being
a fan of his, because of the game with texas.

So yes this was a prescott drive, no help from elliot, just dez and Beasley.
 

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I don't think people understand what game managers vs. bus drivers are.

Game manager (elite) -- Troy Aikman, Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott (you're damn ******* skippy, son)

Bus Driver (never elite) -- Joe Flacco, Eli Manning, Andy Dalton, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson

Then you have field generals (Peyton, Montana, Romo, ARod) and gun-slingers (Favre, Marino, Winston)

Dak is on his way to becoming elite. Best damn believe. Romo was elite. Best damn believe. We gonna get a Super Bowl, and a QB winning it all behind this defense could never be considered a bus driver.

Game managers (the elite ones) can also take over games. But they are methodical and don't make mistakes. They are life. Tom is life. Dak is life.
 
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I think what we have to do with the Risen Star's, and other Dak trolls, is simply put them on ignore. It's a good year for me and I'd like to simply enjoy it. So my ignore list has grown from about 2 people to about 10 or 11, and I promise you, it will get bigger. Ignore the trolls and enjoy being 11-1.
 
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