"If" scenario - who gets cut?

blindzebra said:
Actually it is, because Henson would not clear waivers to get put on the PS, IMO.


Probably not. Most teams would still like to upgrade their #3 QB ... Henson or Romo make great number 3's, but neither of them make solid #2's IMO. You can talk about them in the same sentence though and be making accurate comparisons, unlike the Aikman comparisons which tickle me pink.

Romo is a better player IMO and come down to it, I think he's got just as good of a chance to get cut as Romo would if the scenario occured. I just wish some of you would get off of his jock already. He's not even #2 material at this point. This is one of those, as Bill likes to say, things that we just can't keep hoping is going in the right direction.

What's really going on is Henson is stinking the place up. Why ignore that and hang on to this homeristic hope that he's going to pan out.

It's time to upgrade the #2 spot IMO.

And if I had to bet, my money is still on Romo.
 
Banned_n_austin said:
It's time to upgrade the #2 spot IMO.
Don't you think you should wait and at least see how each player performs during preseason?
 
Banned_n_austin said:
Probably not. Most teams would still like to upgrade their #3 QB ... Henson or Romo make great number 3's, but neither of them make solid #2's IMO. You can talk about them in the same sentence though and be making accurate comparisons, unlike the Aikman comparisons which tickle me pink.

Romo is a better player IMO and come down to it, I think he's got just as good of a chance to get cut as Romo would if the scenario occured. I just wish some of you would get off of his jock already. He's not even #2 material at this point. This is one of those, as Bill likes to say, things that we just can't keep hoping is going in the right direction.

What's really going on is Henson is stinking the place up. Why ignore that and hang on to this homeristic hope that he's going to pan out.

It's time to upgrade the #2 spot IMO.

And if I had to bet, my money is still on Romo.


A tad bit of history:

2003: Carter and Hutch were both playing so bad in practice and not leading the team that Parcells walked off the field, leaving Anderson to clean up the mess.

Carter stunk it up in AZ, but rebounded and won the starting spot.

2004: Camp starts and Romo is looking awful, Henson to everyone's surprise is looking pretty good. Preseason starts and that continues, the media are asking which vet we will bring in to replace Romo. Romo leads a comeback versus OAK and has a career saving game against KC to begin the year at #2.

2005: Henson is struggling one week into camp and...
 
big dog cowboy said:
Don't you think you should wait and at least see how each player performs during preseason?

Probably ...

I'd hate to look back and kick myself for doing so though ...

Part of me really does want to see, but the other sees that this year could be THE year.

Some of our good players are aging and the vicious cycle of declining and blooming talent will continue. Sometimes, it's about timing. And when you make the right moves.

I applaud the patience we exhibited last year, but I don't want to see us be so patient that we miss a chance to get better.
 
Banned_n_austin said:
Probably ...

I'd hate to look back and kick myself for doing so though ...

Part of me really does want to see, but the other sees that this year could be THE year.

Some of our good players are aging and the vicious cycle of declining and blooming talent will continue. Sometimes, it's about timing. And when you make the right moves.

I applaud the patience we exhibited last year, but I don't want to see us be so patient that we miss a chance to get better.

How do you get better if you don't have a long term future at QB?

Which is more short-sighted, finding out or giving up?

None of the QBs we can bring in are a sure bet as insurance behind Bledsoe, none. Hell, I'm not sold BLEDSOE is a given to get us to a winning season.
 
Just out of curiousity, is Tim Hasselbeck still available. I doubt, he does nothing except perform every time he takes the field. The Hasselbecks and Parcells have a long history.
 
Ah, QB debates....

Frankly, I don't think anyone here (with the possible exception of Dale) has really seen enough of either to be definitively saying one is better than the other.

I am waiting for the preseason games to make any judgements. I would love to see great things from Drew Henson since he cost a third round pick. I also expect more out of him since he came from a major program that has produced some good NFL QBs. However, if Romo ends up being the guy, so be it....just as long as one of them proves to be capable. Ideally, they both do.

I do find it interesting that people are ready to cut ties with Henson at this point.....but many were ready to give others many years. Heck, even Romo has an additional year on him. I think anyone that thought Henson was going to catch up with the game overnight is deluding themselves, but it doesn't mean he can't.

Any vet that is out there now is out there for a reason.....because they aren't very good. Chances are they will still be out there come the end of TC.

A Bledsoe injury is the only thing that would shake up the QB depth chart at this point in my opinion.
 
blindzebra said:
How do you get better if you don't have a long term future at QB?

Well, you go with the best option, which conveniently, in this case, is Bledsoe.


Which is more short-sighted, finding out or giving up?

Why limit your answer?

Short-sightedness to me would be to lay the season on Henson when he's executing 4-of-13 passes for 26 yards.

Especially when you have another option (Romo) that is executing at 14-of-19 for 153 yards (unofficially of course).

Not to mention a guy (Bledsoe - 10-of-16 for 93 yards.) who is no slouch himself that you happened to finagle away from Buffalo - a guy who history has shown, Bill works very well with.

That would be my idea of short-sightedness ... of course, we all view things our own way ...


None of the QBs we can bring in are a sure bet as insurance behind Bledsoe, none. Hell, I'm not sold BLEDSOE is a given to get us to a winning season.

Of course nothing is a sure bet, but you've got to go with what you see. And it's not looking good in the Henson department these days. I can't imagine the coaches like what they see ... not when you're 4-of-13 passes for 26 yards. No sir.
 
junk said:
Ah, QB debates....

Frankly, I don't think anyone here (with the possible exception of Dale) has really seen enough of either to be definitively saying one is better than the other.

I am waiting for the preseason games to make any judgements. I would love to see great things from Drew Henson since he cost a third round pick. I also expect more out of him since he came from a major program that has produced some good NFL QBs. However, if Romo ends up being the guy, so be it....just as long as one of them proves to be capable. Ideally, they both do.

I do find it interesting that people are ready to cut ties with Henson at this point.....but many were ready to give others many years. Heck, even Romo has an additional year on him. I think anyone that thought Henson was going to catch up with the game overnight is deluding themselves, but it doesn't mean he can't.

Any vet that is out there now is out there for a reason.....because they aren't very good. Chances are they will still be out there come the end of TC.

A Bledsoe injury is the only thing that would shake up the QB depth chart at this point in my opinion.

I think this place will be quite funny after the first game.

If there is not some whining about the QB position, it just would not feel the same.

We all want Aikman back. We get it.
 
Banned_n_austin said:
Well, you go with the best option, which conveniently, in this case, is Bledsoe.




Why limit your answer?

Short-sightedness to me would be to lay the season on Henson when he's executing 4-of-13 passes for 26 yards.

Especially when you have another option that his executing at Romo was 14-of-19 for 153 yards (unofficially of course).

Not to mention a guy (Bledsoe - 10-of-16 for 93 yards.) who is no slouch himself that you happened to finagle away from Buffalo - a guy who history has shown, Bill works very well with.

That would be my idea of short-sightedness ... of course, we all view things our own way ...




Of course nothing is a sure bet, but you've got to go with what you see. And it's not looking good in the Henson department these days. I can't imagine the coaches like what they see ... not when you're 4-of-13 passes for 26 yards. No sir.

Were those numbers in a real game or in a scrimage, the first week of camp, with a RT that is about get released because from all accounts he was letting an UDFA, converted DTs run right past him.

Two years ago Carter started off shaky and won the job.

Last year Romo looked like crap for three weeks and then started the season at #2.

It is already too late to really do anything because there is nothing out there to bring in.
 
Alexander said:
I think this place will be quite funny after the first game.

If there is not some whining about the QB position, it just would not feel the same.

We all want Aikman back. We get it.

I'm sure somebody would whine about him too....and want to start Randall Cunningham.
 
junk said:
Ah, QB debates....

I look at it this way: when was the last time we could have a legitimate QB debate at all? The fact we're squabbling isn't such a bad sign.

David.
 
dwmyers said:
I look at it this way: when was the last time we could have a legitimate QB debate at all? The fact we're squabbling isn't such a bad sign.

David.

I do like having two young guys with some potential on the bench behind Bledsoe.

I am not sold on Bledsoe, but the team had to have a vet and I like him better than Kurt Warner.

The QB situation has gotten better, but it still needs fixed.
 
Banned_n_austin said:
Of course nothing is a sure bet, but you've got to go with what you see. And it's not looking good in the Henson department these days. I can't imagine the coaches like what they see ... not when you're 4-of-13 passes for 26 yards. No sir.
It was scrimmage. Henson haters are reading to much into it.
 
big dog cowboy said:
It was scrimmage. Henson haters are reading to much into it.


Nah - I'm just stating something tangible to base my evaluation off of. I'm well aware that this is not the end-all-tell-all. That said, I don't see it getting much better.

Here's to me being wrong though ...

:beer2:
 
Although I am not going ot argue the point as vehemently as some have here...AND although I am a Henson hopeful as well...I am always perplexed when it seems that a fan, or group of fans, is rooting against one of our own players..

I dunno...doesn't make alot of sense to me.

"I'm rooting for your side of the ship to sink"
 
Juke99 said:
Although I am not going ot argue the point as vehemently as some have here...AND although I am a Henson hopeful as well...I am always perplexed when it seems that a fan, or group of fans, is rooting against one of our own players..

I dunno...doesn't make alot of sense to me.

"I'm rooting for your side of the ship to sink"

I just made this same comment somewhere else in another thread.

I think people would rather be right about "their" guy than win games.
 
Juke99 said:
Although I am not going ot argue the point as vehemently as some have here...AND although I am a Henson hopeful as well...I am always perplexed when it seems that a fan, or group of fans, is rooting against one of our own players..

I dunno...doesn't make alot of sense to me.

"I'm rooting for your side of the ship to sink"

I put my team above any one player - always have.

And I've never understood why you wouldn't want someone to earn their spot on the team ...

The opposite side of the coin has a legitimate point as well. It's just that some people get their feelings hurt over it ... but rest assured, there is a point.

The ones that get so offended by it are the ones that see their hopes and agenda of a single player going south. And sometimes they forget to put the team ahead of their agenda or any single player. There's nothing offensive about discussing this though ... and there really is no need to get offended.
 

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