Spags is still bitter!

TwoDeep3 said:
Kitty - I want a quote out of Parcells mouth, reported by at least two people in the press, which states emphatically that he is interested in bringing back Carter.

Now that was the implication in the other post.

But I do not believe that for a minute.

When asked about Carter last year, he clearly said that he WOULDN'T rule out bringing back Carter at a later date. He did bring back that fs Davis didn't he.
If he doesn't bring back Carter, he's charleton(sp) and a fool. Carter can play against the big boys in the NFL,something that Drew "5-34" against teams who've won 10 or more games, can't do.
 
kartr said:
When asked about Carter last year, he clearly said that he WOULDN'T rule out bringing back Carter at a later date. He did bring back that fs Davis didn't he.
If he doesn't bring back Carter, he's charleton(sp) and a fool. Carter can play against the big boys in the NFL,something that Drew "5-34" against teams who've won 10 or more games, can't do.

kartr i like QC to, think he's a decent QB but umm i think QC records worse than that and he hasnt been playing as long. so i wouldnt exactly throw out that stat
 
cobra said:
Why the hell do we let katr post on this message board? That moron doesn't do anything but spout the same ignorant BS over and over. katr needs to foad.

because he isnt breaking any rules, he is posting his opinion, and much to your surprise every post he ash posted doest deal with carter, i think 1 or 2 was about something differnt:D
 
Pesonally, if we signed Quincy, I'd have no problem with him taking the #3 spot away from Henson.
 
Banned_n_austin said:
Pesonally, if we signed Quincy, I'd have no problem with him taking the #3 spot away from Henson.

And if we had the same opportunity to sign say Ricky Williams, would you share the same opinion?
 
Hey...I'm just stopping by, NOT to squash the discussion but to simply remind everyone to chill a bit, ok?

QC discussions always bring out a LOT of passion...it's ok to be passionate about your point of view, but please express it within the rules, OK?

Thanks.
 
TwoDeep3 said:
But I do not believe that for a minute.

Eh, I don't believe it either, really. There's too much risk with Carter. And I can't see Parcells risking the distraction that Quincy may bring with his personal life to the team.

Having said that, we don't have any depth at QB and at least QC would bring some experience.

I don't care one way or the other here. But I do think we need another QB here.
 
All youz guy and gals don't get it with QC! QC done won is 11 games, that is 89.746 % of any games other QB have won for there team.

QC had like about 6 200 yard passing game, which is I think about 93.663 % better then any QB the Cowboys ever had. Staubach only had 83.874 % of passing yards.

QC scrambled with his given mobility about 84.6 times and averaged abound 35 to 40 yards each scrambled, which amounts to I think about a whopping 98.228 yards better then Fram Tarkenton ever scrambled.

QC recievers ran the wrong routes 76.492 % of the time, and QC still hit them 88.309 % of the time which is a astounding 123.878 % better then Marino every did in Miami, or what Manning is doing now.

QC had the wrong play sent in to him 44.223 % of time, and he had to audible to the right play 53.995 % of time to make sure that he executed the play to Bryant who ran the wrong route 81.443 % of time, so that not QC fault.

QC o-line showed up overwieght 87.888 % of time, and they could not block for him 91.321 % of time causing QC to scramble 77.343 % of time so that not QC fault either.

QC was first to be dressed for games at least I thnk 98.211 % of time and the rest of the team dress late at least 112.222 % of time, that why QC had to wait for the Nationl Antheym 78.229 % of time. So get your facts stright before you talkd abd hate on QC. If QC still be with the team we would win this year based on his past stats, at least I think about 99.999 % of time or maybe even 100.899 % ot time.

Get your facts stright with QC before you hate on him...and too, QC only smoked pot 90 % of time, the other 24 % he was asleep or reading his playbook 23.883 % of time.

JJ messed up when he let QC go 100.000 % ot time.
 
BigDFan5 said:
I am bitter too! The Dallas Cowboys the team I have always loved, spent three years on his no talent *** at QB, and in the end he screwed us over, becuase he couldnt control his own addictions. Any Cowboy fan who is ok with that IMO is wrong. 3 years wasted in mediocraty because of Quincy Carter its enough to aggrevate anyone.

Quincy was surrounded by bad coaches, first an aging rb, then no rb at all and mediocre receivers with suspect blocking by the same offensive line Parcell's is still trying to fix. Yet, we competed against playoff teams such as the Eagles,Panthers,49'ers,Giants,etc. If you don't think Quincy has talent, you don't beans about football. Qb's don't throw for over 3,000 yards against top notch defenses and a mediocre supporting cast. BP knows he messed in '03 by going with Hambrick as the feature back, that's why he tried to trade for a better one 3 times in '03. You didn't see him trying to bring another qb in mid-season. Keyshawn said on tv that he was brought to Dallas to help make Quincy a more accurate qb. The drug issue is the only one that concerns BP about QC. You'll notice that the article said that Q would probably not have to serve a 4 game suspension, that's because he only failed a drug test once and that was in Feb. of '03. Did failing that test keep him playing 16 games for us then and helping us get to the playoffs. Jerry's bogus drug test for Quincy was illegal and doesn't count because the NFl didn't conduct it.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
And if we had the same opportunity to sign say Ricky Williams, would you share the same opinion?


I don't think Ricky Williams would be a problem. He was open about taking time off to do what he had to do. But this isn't about Ricky Williams (who I happen to be a fan of).

Here is the deal though ABQ, we need another guy to be our back up. Neither of ours gives me confidence. And I don't think QC is the best choice out there when it's all said and done. But I never thought Henson was the answer either. Same with Romo. We've got a problem that needs to be addressed. And the bottom line is we need another option at QB.

Can you agree with me there?
 
kartr said:
When asked about Carter last year, he clearly said that he WOULDN'T rule out bringing back Carter at a later date. He did bring back that fs Davis didn't he.

Dream on.

Boy, you people sure are devoted groupies.
 
Mkyle said:
All youz guy and gals don't get it with QC! QC done won is 11 games, that is 89.746 % of any games other QB have won for there team.

QC had like about 6 200 yard passing game, which is I think about 93.663 % better then any QB the Cowboys ever had. Staubach only had 83.874 % of passing yards.

QC scrambled with his given mobility about 84.6 times and averaged abound 35 to 40 yards each scrambled, which amounts to I think about a whopping 98.228 yards better then Fram Tarkenton ever scrambled.

QC recievers ran the wrong routes 76.492 % of the time, and QC still hit them 88.309 % of the time which is a astounding 123.878 % better then Marino every did in Miami, or what Manning is doing now.

QC had the wrong play sent in to him 44.223 % of time, and he had to audible to the right play 53.995 % of time to make sure that he executed the play to Bryant who ran the wrong route 81.443 % of time, so that not QC fault.

QC o-line showed up overwieght 87.888 % of time, and they could not block for him 91.321 % of time causing QC to scramble 77.343 % of time so that not QC fault either.

QC was first to be dressed for games at least I thnk 98.211 % of time and the rest of the team dress late at least 112.222 % of time, that why QC had to wait for the Nationl Antheym 78.229 % of time. So get your facts stright before you talkd abd hate on QC. If QC still be with the team we would win this year based on his past stats, at least I think about 99.999 % of time or maybe even 100.899 % ot time.

Get your facts stright with QC before you hate on him...and too, QC only smoked pot 90 % of time, the other 24 % he was asleep or reading his playbook 23.883 % of time.

JJ messed up when he let QC go 100.000 % ot time.

We get it the guy is a piss poor QB that is either Bi-Polar by some accounts or has a drug problem either way we don't need it. Top it off he turned the ball over more than point he scored, our defense had more to do with our making the playoff than the offense did. Right now not a single team in the NFL is knocking on Carter door I doubt all these people are wrong and you and Karter are right. Myself I have seen every game Carter has played in the Pro and he is not that damn good and sure is not worth having on this team.
 
Banned_n_austin said:
Eh, I don't believe it either, really. There's too much risk with Carter. And I can't see Parcells risking the distraction that Quincy may bring with his personal life to the team.

Having said that, we don't have any depth at QB and at least QC would bring some experience.

I don't care one way or the other here. But I do think we need another QB here.

Honestly, lets examin this business of bringing QC back. Lets just say we did that. Lets say we have a QB rotation of Bledsoe, Henson/Romo and Carter. What would happen if Bledsoe went down? We would be in a situation where we would have an inexperienced, untested player and a guy who would be on his 4th strike.

What is the 4th strike anyway?

How much sense would this make?

If I'm BP or a GM, there's no way I would introduce this into the equation. Very little upside and tons of risk associated.
 
Sorry for being colorful and abrasive.

I will just repeat one sentiment: Quincy Carter was the worst thing to ever happen to this franchise, and we will all be much better off when people quit bringing up his name.
 
Mkyle said:
All youz guy and gals don't get it with QC! QC done won is 11 games, that is 89.746 % of any games other QB have won for there team.

QC had like about 6 200 yard passing game, which is I think about 93.663 % better then any QB the Cowboys ever had. Staubach only had 83.874 % of passing yards.

QC scrambled with his given mobility about 84.6 times and averaged abound 35 to 40 yards each scrambled, which amounts to I think about a whopping 98.228 yards better then Fram Tarkenton ever scrambled.

QC recievers ran the wrong routes 76.492 % of the time, and QC still hit them 88.309 % of the time which is a astounding 123.878 % better then Marino every did in Miami, or what Manning is doing now.

QC had the wrong play sent in to him 44.223 % of time, and he had to audible to the right play 53.995 % of time to make sure that he executed the play to Bryant who ran the wrong route 81.443 % of time, so that not QC fault.

QC o-line showed up overwieght 87.888 % of time, and they could not block for him 91.321 % of time causing QC to scramble 77.343 % of time so that not QC fault either.

QC was first to be dressed for games at least I thnk 98.211 % of time and the rest of the team dress late at least 112.222 % of time, that why QC had to wait for the Nationl Antheym 78.229 % of time. So get your facts stright before you talkd abd hate on QC. If QC still be with the team we would win this year based on his past stats, at least I think about 99.999 % of time or maybe even 100.899 % ot time.

Get your facts stright with QC before you hate on him...and too, QC only smoked pot 90 % of time, the other 24 % he was asleep or reading his playbook 23.883 % of time.

JJ messed up when he let QC go 100.000 % ot time.

Well, if you put it that way...LOL
 
Well the Cowboys as Micheal Irvin reports..did try to resign him last year before he went to the Jets...

I just would love to see Carter back here just so I can get a laugh out the reaction Spags would have......it would be priceless
 
Alexander said:
Exactly.

That tells you that it is a bogus rumor.

Do you have it in writing that one them wont? Didn't Parcells' say that Henson/Romo will have to improve. What if they don't? Keep them around anyway even if they stink. Why should they get a free ride? All of the players have to prove themselves and they have minimal investment in Romo.
 
TwoDeep3 said:
With the Dallas Cowboys?

Because that is the only team I am concerned about, and the team which I believe has done something a group of fans here and other places haven't.

Divorced themselves from this undisciplined athlete.

I get it now, you're actually Spags aren't you.
 
I'm not sure who the person that started this rumor is referring to as his source, but it ain't me. I kinda find what he is saying hard to believe, because for one Q has never lived in a condo. He went from an apartment to a house in Las Colinas. And for 2, Quincy is still living in his home, and it is not for sale. Andre Gurode lives in a home in Frisco.

It's my understanding that Q will probably not be playing anywhere this year...and certainly not with the Boys.

Hope this clears a little of this rumor up..
 
Banned_n_austin said:
I don't think Ricky Williams would be a problem. He was open about taking time off to do what he had to do. But this isn't about Ricky Williams (who I happen to be a fan of).

Here is the deal though ABQ, we need another guy to be our back up. Neither of ours gives me confidence. And I don't think QC is the best choice out there when it's all said and done. But I never thought Henson was the answer either. Same with Romo. We've got a problem that needs to be addressed. And the bottom line is we need another option at QB.

Can you agree with me there?

Yes I can but bringing Carter back would be a move that just created too much risk IMO. As I said in another thread, I think the guy might be Vinnie. He's perfect for the role if all he's being asked to do is back up. I would be hard pressed to figure out who might be better suited if it should come to that.
 

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