Surprise Cut... Who Do You Think Might Be?

[Yeagermeister]

Yeah so do I

Newman's number for 2006

202/20 = 10.1

Remove the 1 PR for 56 yards and you get

146/19 = 7.68

Which is very Patrick Craytonish and middle of the pack aka average.

Thank you WG

 

[carphalen5150]

I will say this though about the first cut in training camp...it is the deepest.

 

[DallasEast]

Yeah so do I

Newman's number for 2006

202/20 = 10.1

Remove the 1 PR for 56 yards and you get

146/19 = 7.68

Which is very Patrick Craytonish and middle of the pack aka average.

Frak! She's right, eduncan! What are you going to do now? Just what are you gonna do?!?

 

[WoodysGirl]

Thank you WG

Anytime. ~hi-five~

Frak! She's right, eduncan! What are you going to do now? Just what are you gonna do?!?

Avoid it just like he avoids the post in your sig. Typical.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Anytime. ~hi-five~
Avoid it just like he avoids the post in your sig. Typical.

 

[DallasEast]

Avoid it just like he avoids the post in your sig. Typical.

shhhh!

I was secretly told that eduncan is partially color-blind and cannot see the color red, so I intentionally made some of the font red in my sig. He can't read it! Isn't that a hoot!



Okay. I lied. He has ignored replying to it for months now. I just don't understand it. I thought that he liked me.

 

[ZeroClub]

Why would you want Stanback to be a PR, when Newman is already a top tier PR in the NFL? I don't see that happening.

If anything, someone gets hurt, and Stanback shows enough to get a 5th WR spot.

Doubtful.

One of the reasons the Cowboys drafted Stanback was that the Cowboys thought he had promise as a PR.

It may be wishingful thinking on the Cowboys' part, though, given that Stanback seldom returned kicks of any kind throughout his college career.

Quality returners just have a special knack for it, and the jury is still out whether Stanback has that kind of knack. (even though he didn't cut it in the NFL, at least Skyler Green had success as a returner at LSU).

Yeah, I enjoy watching Newman return punts too. He's obviously a threat. In a perfect world, though, the Cowboys would have another guy (who is not their best CB) who is a threat at punt returner.

Crayton has reliable hands, but all of us have seen that he isn't much of a threat as a punt returner.

 

[Stash]

If it qualifies as a 'surprise', I'll go with Tyson Thompson.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

why would we keep around a guy who may not do anything for you, over the best special team player on the team?

Hurd, Elam and Fowler had more special team tackles than Keith Davis. As a matter of fact Davis had 13 more total tackles than Elam, despite Elam not playing a down on the regular defense.

Davis was nothing more than a Parcells' favorite. He kept saying how good a ST player he was, but no one ever saw it on the field.

We should have let him go to NO last year. I think he was kept last year because Parcells thought Payton was showing him up by signing Davis as a restricted FA.

 

[AbeBeta]

Yeah so do I

Newman's number for 2006

202/20 = 10.1

Remove the 1 PR for 56 yards and you get

146/19 = 7.68

Which is very Patrick Craytonish and middle of the pack aka average.

In fairness here, any player who has a good PR average is going to have one or two that they break -- on PRs you don't usually see a guy who consistently gets 10-15 yards -- PRs are more about the ability to bust one every so often -- Newman does have that. Crayton doesn't.

The big question should be whether Newman has enough of that break away ability to justify risking him getting hurt. So far, I'd say no.

 

[Doomsday101]

For those predicting Grammatica as a TC casualty, recall one scouting report on Nick Folk:

Strengths:
Has an extremely strong leg with range well beyond 50 yards...His kickoffs are outstanding and he can be a real weapon in the field position game...Has steady nerves and won't succumb to pressure...Is versatile and can also punt in a pinch.

Weaknesses:
Simply misses too many kicks...Accuracy is shaky, even on the short ones...Has had some kicks blocked...Is not the type that you want as your punter for long stretches...Didn't get many opportunities in college and wasn't overly productive.

Notes:
Kicked a 62-yard field goal in the Wildcats 2006 Spring Game...Participated in the Senior Bowl...Recipient of a number of academic honors...Has potential as a field goal kicker but his real value at the pro level will likely come as a kickoff specialist.

Depending on what you think of this assessment (and nfl.com is not much better), who are you planning on being the money guy? Vanderslice?

Recall that Hoffman did not work any miracles in his last stop, if you're thinking of bringing him back to fix Folk.

JMO

1st off I hope Grammatica gets it done. As for Folk that has been the report on him but if he can clearly show that he has improved his accuracy then he has a chance. I'm sure Jones and Phillips would love to only use 1 roster spot for a kicker, they may not have a choice unless Folk can clearly out kick Grammatica or Grammatica shows enough leg on kickoffs to avoid having to waste the roster spot. I guess the other option would be McBriar who said at the end of last year that he was going to be working on kickoffs this off-season.

 

[aikemirv]

In fairness here, any player who has a good PR average is going to have one or two that they break -- on PRs you don't usually see a guy who consistently gets 10-15 yards -- PRs are more about the ability to bust one every so often -- Newman does have that. Crayton doesn't.

The big question should be whether Newman has enough of that break away ability to justify risking him getting hurt. So far, I'd say no.

I was all for Newman returning punts, and still am on a part-time basis, but his judgement last year on fielding that one punt where he got JACKED UP (which would have been a finalist for "jacked up" of the year made me
reconsider my stance.

 

[1fisher]

I'm used to it

 

[Doomsday101]

In fairness here, any player who has a good PR average is going to have one or two that they break -- on PRs you don't usually see a guy who consistently gets 10-15 yards -- PRs are more about the ability to bust one every so often -- Newman does have that. Crayton doesn't.

The big question should be whether Newman has enough of that break away ability to justify risking him getting hurt. So far, I'd say no.

I think in a critical situation you put the best you have on the field and if that happens to be Newman on a punt return then you do it. I don't want him returning all punts but in some situations I don't there is much of a choice

 

[junk]

I wouldn't. That is my choice: Cory Proctor.

We drafted two players who could be backup guards. Free might also get a look at center I believe. We have Joe Berger also.

Possibly. However, I think Marten is pretty much limited to RT. I like Berger and think the team may keep 10 including Berger.

I think Free was a great pick, but I think this will be a redshirt year for him while he gets stronger.

I think Procter will probably end up being the active game day swing guard/center backup.

 

[jterrell]

Flozell Adams.

That would be a true surprise but it would really just be ending his tenure a year ahead of schedule.

It would prolly take him getting banged up in camp and then McQuistan moving over but stranger things have happened.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

In fairness here, any player who has a good PR average is going to have one or two that they break -- on PRs you don't usually see a guy who consistently gets 10-15 yards -- PRs are more about the ability to bust one every so often -- Newman does have that. Crayton doesn't.

I never understand why people want to exclude big plays in calculating averages, whether it's Newman on punt returns or Barry Sanders on carrying the ball.

But with punt returners in particular, you're exactly right: Even the best ones have many, many returns that basically go for nothing. The ones with the best average are almost always the ones with the most long returns; that's what separates them.

 

[ZeroClub]

I think in a critical situation you put the best you have on the field and if that happens to be Newman on a punt return then you do it. I don't want him returning all punts but in some situations I don't there is much of a choice

I agree.

In big games, in critical situations, let Newman do it (and hold your breath).

Otherwise, no.

(assuming Crayton is the default punt returner)

 

[ZeroClub]

I never understand why people want to exclude big plays in calculating averages, whether it's Newman on punt returns or Barry Sanders on carrying the ball.

But with punt returners in particular, you're exactly right: Even the best ones have many, many returns that basically go for nothing. The ones with the best average are almost always the ones with the most long returns; that's what separates them.

I agree.

Using the opposite end of the same general logic, somebody could say, "Crayton is a high quality returner. If you take away is 4 worst returns ...."

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Hoyte, McQuistan, Grammatica and Austin.


Hoyte because I always viewed him as an attempt by Parcells to prove how smart he was.

McQuistan because he kept getting praise from Parcells all last year and that usually ended badly see Blade, Stewart.

Grammatica because he's a pretty crappy kicker.

And Austin's going to run into a numbers game at WR so if the investment in Stanback pays off at all someone's got to go.