Thank god we didn't draft Bosa

[Chuck 54]

If we'd drafted Bosa, he'd have been signed and in camp. Blame the Chargers who try to strong arm rookies every year and have holdouts every year.

Also, don't underestimate Bosa's desire to make his bones as a DE in the 4-3 rather than the 3-4.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

All that money and a chance to play in the NFL, and to boot, one of the best places to live in the US in San Diego. Bosa is too stupid to figure it out. I am so glad the Chargers took Bosa before the Cowboys drafted.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

All that money and a chance to play in the NFL, and to boot, one of the best places to live in the US in San Diego. Bosa is too stupid to figure it out. I am so glad the Chargers took Bosa before the Cowboys drafted.

He'll still make money and will still play in the NFL. Just not for SDC.

People that choose not to work for people they don't like when there are other options are completely rational. Going back to OSU where he is loved is not a bad option at all.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He is just that.

So someone that has not fired back in the PR war this entire time is the primadonna and the one waging it is the good guy in that context. smh

 

[Plankton]

About what I'm thinking at this point. I expect to see Bosa in the draft again. he's only 21, so it's not like a 24 year old rookie. Still plenty young to go back into the draft and hopefully find a better team to be drafted by.

Giving up a year of salary and adding a year to when he would hit free agency would be a monumentally bad decision by Bosa.

This deal will get done at some point - my guess is that it will be resolved by the second week of the season.

 

[Nightman]

His family is independently wealthy.

they said the same thing about Johnny Manziel and we all know how that entitled millennial has worked out...it is his parents money, not his

 

[mattjames2010]

Giving up a year of salary and adding a year to when he would hit free agency would be a monumentally bad decision by Bosa.

This deal will get done at some point - my guess is that it will be resolved by the second week of the season.

It's not a bad decision if he doesn't want to play there. Kinda the point some of you are missing.

There may have been a time this was about the money, it's look now after he turned down that last deal he simply doesn't want to be in San Diego.

 

[Plankton]

It's not a bad decision if he doesn't want to play there. Kinda the point some of you are missing.

There may have been a time this was about the money, it's look now after he turned down that last deal he simply doesn't want to be in San Diego.

It absolutely would be a bad decision in a sport with a relatively short window for a player to make money.

Giving up a year of earning and adding a year to when he can hit the open market is not a strategy that any financial adviser would advocate.

Players don't have the right as drafted players to select where they play - that's a condition of employment. If he wants to sit out a season, and forfeit over 10 million present day dollars and delay his time hitting free agency by another year, then he is not making a smart decision with regards to his financial future.

This will end up getting worked out - both sides have too much to lose on this.

 

[Nightman]

Spanos is a billionaire and he is the whining to the press. Bosa has made no statements. This is what I am talking about empathizing. You are eating up what the Chargers are selling.

Bosa is still being offered a contract with both a split signing bonus plus offset language. You can characterize it however you like but it still remains unprecedented for a third round pick.

The NFL is a monopoly. There is no place else to go in this country to play pro football. The moment you say go play in Canada you see the crux of the problem.

These yahoos are running a PR campaign to smear Bosa yet here are a bunch of yahoos claiming that Bosa is the primadonna.

you obviously didn't read the thread......it has been shown that both Wentz and EE took both this year and 29 out of 31 1st round picks have offset language....the NFL has a union and they have negotiated the rules for rookies who don't have a vote......if you have a beef it is with the vets

 

[Nightman]

It's not a bad decision if he doesn't want to play there. Kinda the point some of you are missing.

There may have been a time this was about the money, it's look now after he turned down that last deal he simply doesn't want to be in San Diego.

he doesn't have a choice next year either......SD ain't so bad.....his Dad did the same thing as a 1st round pick in 1987 was a bust and out of the league in 3 years......his Mom is running her mouth about pulling an Eli........he is getting some bad advice......if he drops to 16th next year that is 16m lost off the top plus the 6m for this year and one more year until FA....no rookie is that well off to lose 20m over a city

 

[mattjames2010]

It absolutely would be a bad decision in a sport with a relatively short window for a player to make money.

Giving up a year of earning and adding a year to when he can hit the open market is not a strategy that any financial adviser would advocate.

Players don't have the right as drafted players to select where they play - that's a condition of employment. If he wants to sit out a season, and forfeit over 10 million present day dollars and delay his time hitting free agency by another year, then he is not making a smart decision with regards to his financial future.

This will end up getting worked out - both sides have too much to lose on this.

Well, no ****. But it won't be San Diego drafting him. Once again: If he doesn't want to be there, I doubt the money even matters at this point especially with the last offer he got. TO YOU, the money is inciting, to HIM it might not matter at this point. He is 21 years old, he will be 22 when the next draft comes up. He will still be a highly touted DE.

The contract could lock him with the Chargers for 4 years, maybe even 5. If he simply doesn't like the organization, his best bet is to go into the draft with the hopes of being drafted by a team he believes respects him and who he respects.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Why? you essentially lost your biggest chip in years for nothing if that's the case.

They're a crappy team anyway lol doesn't sound good to me the way he's acting

 

[StarBoyz83]

Should have traded him. They lose a 3rd pick overall

Can they not get a pick comp if no deal is worked out?

 

[the_h0wey]

DAL made Elliott sign the same the terms SD is offering......deferring 40% of his signing bonus AND including offset language.......so Bosa probably would not have signed......his Dad was a holdout in 1987 with MIA and Joey is just following in his Dad's footsteps(his Dad was a 1st round bust as a TE)

He and his Daddy never met Mr. Jones

 

[Nightman]

Can they not get a pick comp if no deal is worked out?[/QUOTE

nope....only baseball does that becasue they can go to college

 

[Nightman]

He and his Daddy never met Mr. Jones

Jerry just offered the same exact contract to Elliott and he signed it

 

[StarBoyz83]

nope....only baseball does that becasue they can go to college

That sucks guess you have to work a deal out then.

 

[Sydla]

Spanos is a billionaire and he is the whining to the press. Bosa has made no statements. This is what I am talking about empathizing. You are eating up what the Chargers are selling.

Bosa is still being offered a contract with both a split signing bonus plus offset language. You can characterize it however you like but it still remains unprecedented for a third round pick.

The NFL is a monopoly. There is no place else to go in this country to play pro football. The moment you say go play in Canada you see the crux of the problem.

These yahoos are running a PR campaign to smear Bosa yet here are a bunch of yahoos claiming that Bosa is the primadonna.

Elliott and Wentz signed deals with both provisions in their contracts. So it's not unprecedented.

Bosa's camp apparently took the position that they would accept either the offset language or the deferred bonus, but not both. It appears now that the Chargers have softened on the deferred bonus money and yet that's not good enough for Bosa.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Elliott and Wentz signed deals with both provisions in their contracts. So it's not unprecedented.

Bosa's camp apparently took the position that they would accept either the offset language or the deferred bonus, but not both. It appears now that the Chargers have softened on the deferred bonus money and yet that's not good enough for Bosa.

have a link to that because I have seen reams of evidence to the contrary.

 

[slick325]

If you do a little research, you'd see that the Chargers are offering Bosa a great deal. There's only 2-3 first round draft picks this year that do NOT have the offset language in their contracts. Plus, he's being offered the second most first year money of all the draft picks. I hope this comes back to bite him in the *** big time.

I have done plenty of research on this matter and still realize the Chargers history tells me they are in the wrong.

Here's an article on Fox Sports:
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...ft-re-enter-holdout-length-offset-salary.html

"Remember when Eli Manning refused to sign with the Chargers after the team drafted him No. 1 overall in 2004? He knew the Chargers’ reputation for nickel-and-diming rookies, who didn't have much, if any, leverage. Manning and his advisors saw that in 2001, LaDainian Tomlinson held out 30 days as the Chargers refused to pay him the fair market value of a No. 5 pick. They saw that Quentin Jammer held out for 50 days in 2002 for the same reasons. Manning wasn’t going through that nonsense. He had leverage before the draft — don’t draft me, I won’t sign — and he used it, and he avoided the mess. He took a PR hit — the Chargers were all too happy to participate in that piling on — but he didn’t have to deal with the San Diego ownership.

And don’t think the Chargers learned their lesson — the player San Diego received when it traded Manning on draft day, Philip Rivers, held out 25 days that preseason. The year after that, Shawne Merriman held out seven.

Apparently, many are still not seeing the pattern. It’s not that the Chargers repeatedly drafted “punks" with “bad attitudes” and “entitlements” — comments leveled against Bosa this offseason (and that’s just in my social media mentions) — it’s that they’re cheap."

There's more:
"There has not been a No. 3 overall pick since the new CBA has been ratified whose contract included both offset language and a split signing bonus.

The Chargers are using public relations to leverage a rookie to take an unprecedented deal. They’re calling him out on social media for turning down “best offers” and then making passive-aggressive statements like “we’ll restructure our offer since Joey will be unable to contribute for the full 16-game season."

And you wonder why that organization has found it so difficult to get a new stadium in San Diego."