Wait...he's using Barkley in his argument?![]()
I am not freaking out...I am just being critical....I think you're freaking out over something really, really small.
I don't get this at all.
"The higher the investments, the higher the expectations." Really? Zeke's contract influences what you expect to see from him on the field? I can't imagine how.
"He has to offer a huge reason why we could've went with a Derrick Henry..." That draft was years ago. The draft and the contract are water under the bridge. The question is, what can we reasonably expect from him this season?
If you're going to be unhappy unless he magically transforms into a player that he isn't, well then you're going to be unhappy.
I don't expect him to suddenly start ripping off long runs or running routes and catching passes like McCaffrey, no matter what work he's done in the offseason. He's not that guy. And all the preseason "best shape of his life, doing yoga/karate/special drills is going to make a huge difference!" is just happy-talk, 99 times out of 100.
I'm unhappy with the contract they gave Zeke. But again, that's water under the bridge and has no effect on my expectations. I'm hoping for the best Zeke we can reasonably expect to get, and I think 2019 Zeke is that level of performance. I'll be (pleasantly!) shocked if we get more than that.
Could be a big bounce back year for Zeke. Here's to hope.
Could be a big bounce back year for Zeke. Here's to hope.
I bet if there was a line in Vegas on that, it would be odds - not.How do you know? You don’t.
OK but there are TBs in this league who can get those 5 yards on first down and also take a hand off and end up 80 yards down the field. Zeke can't really do that anymore (at least hasn't shown that skill in recent years). Dalvin Cook averaged 5 yards per carry last year. Alvin Kamara averaged 5 yards per carry. Henry was at 5.4 yards. And all three were more explosive types than Elliott.
That's what can separate the elite backs from the good ones. For Zeke to be an elite back again, he needs to be able to be more like that rookie Elliott than the one in recent years that showed little ability to be a game changing back like a Henry, etc.
I didn't draft him. I also have a lot more information now than I did then. My expectations are based on the information I have available to me.- A 4th overall pick is indeed a very high investment, ..so why would you Not expect such high expectations ?
I didn't pay him. I have no reason to base my expectations on his paycheck. I base my expectations on his career to date, his age and other factors that are relevant to his on-field performance, not his contract (which isn't).Why are you making him the highest paid RB, if you don’t expect his performance and productivity to influence the playing field ?
Again, I'm not paying him. The Cowboys are paying him more money than I would like. Let me ask you this: if they doubled his salary tomorrow, would you expect him to perform better on the field? I wouldn't.If it’s water under a bridge as you say,.. then are we just giving him “charity’ money ?
I want him to learn to fly and score a TD on every play. What I want and what I can reasonably expect are completely different things.What to reasonably expect this year from Zeke ?
- I want the Zeke’s 2016 physical form and burst. That’s the leading task of his off-season regiment;
Sure. Me too. But I have no expectation that it'll happen. In my experience, that's not the sort of thing that does happen.- If I can get that same 2016 Zeke back, I’ll more than welcome that re-signed high dollar contract.
I expect his regimen to have zero observable impact on his burst and agility. I mean, I expect that he'll be in good shape--at least we're not hearing that he's living on Twinkies and skipping out on his workouts, so that's good. But I don't expect any of that stuff to get him back to anything more than his 2019 form. Hey, I could be wrong. But I doubt it.If he’s Not that kind of guy, then it would become more pointless to have him even digging up this kind of regiment workout program in trying to recapture that previous burst and agility.
And it always will. These backs go nowhere without good blockers up front no matter how good the back is.
I bet if there was a line in Vegas on that, it would be odds - not.
Best bet on Zeke is to let Zeke do what he can do best and thats be healthy late in the season and post season.
Need that RB3 that can share some load in this extended season, hope one of the rooks can shine and we keep 3 RBs,, FBs are fazed these days.
Barry Sanders was probably the best back ever, regardless of the quality of his line.
No, and agree, not talking about putting Zeke ever on Ice, he has to be managed.We have to be careful with "preserving" Zeke. I understand what you are saying...but zeke is a 'pound the rock" running back. Even at tOSU, he might get 50 yards in the 1st half then 100+ in the second.
It's where the annoying "feed me" came from. Urban knew it but Moore....wants to pass.
Now...do we have a team NOW...that can do that? We'll have to see if our O-line can regroup. We'll have to see if we can go up or at least be even with teams through 2 quarters. We'll have to see if Moore can...EFFECTIVELY...operate a 1-2 (3) punch at RB. Those 3 spots have given us fits lately...and zeke is the easy target with it. It's EASY to say "but zeke"...and people think they are so in-the-know and kool kids klub about it.
You can't put zeke on ice.
and not just for Zeke but Pollard is an emerging star in the making.We have to be careful with "preserving" Zeke. I understand what you are saying...but zeke is a 'pound the rock" running back. Even at tOSU, he might get 50 yards in the 1st half then 100+ in the second.
It's where the annoying "feed me" came from. Urban knew it but Moore....wants to pass.
Now...do we have a team NOW...that can do that? We'll have to see if our O-line can regroup. We'll have to see if we can go up or at least be even with teams through 2 quarters. We'll have to see if Moore can...EFFECTIVELY...operate a 1-2 (3) punch at RB. Those 3 spots have given us fits lately...and zeke is the easy target with it. It's EASY to say "but zeke"...and people think they are so in-the-know and kool kids klub about it.
You can't put zeke on ice.
He's now an average back. We can't put the game on his back like we did with 33 and 22.