Tim Tebow a Cowboy?

[Yakuza Rich]

I don't see how any team can draft a player like him in the first 3 rounds after hearing experts say you'll have to start from scratch with his entire motion and techniques.

3rd round maybe.

The things that intrigue about him is he has a super strong arm, great size and mobility.

If he was the same Tim Tebow but 6'0' and 200 lbs, or had a pop-gun arm, I wouldn't be interested. But when you take a guy that has the size, athleticism and IMO, a fantastic attitude and leadership qualities, that's appealing and I do believe that if he works hard enough, he'll be able to turn that around.





YAKUZA

 

[dbair1967]

Those same "experts" said the same thing about Phillip Rivers. One problem with the experts though and that is the fact they base everything on measureables. The two things you can't measure are a kid's heart and how bad he wants to be a player. Does that mean Tebow will be as good as Rivers? No it doesn't. Like I said earlier though, I would take him in a minute. He's a winner. PERIOD!

Dude, Rivers' throwing ability was absolutely not in question. Some questioned his release, but not his arm strength, accuracy or ability to play in a pro style offense.

Tebow simply does not have the talent to be a regular NFL starter at QB. His arm is weak and his mechanics are horrendous. When the best thing they can say about his talent is "well he's a good short yardage runner", thats bad.

 

[dbair1967]

3rd round maybe.

The things that intrigue about him is he has a super strong arm, great size and mobility.

If he was the same Tim Tebow but 6'0' and 200 lbs, or had a pop-gun arm, I wouldn't be interested. But when you take a guy that has the size, athleticism and IMO, a fantastic attitude and leadership qualities, that's appealing and I do believe that if he works hard enough, he'll be able to turn that around.

YAKUZA

Are you talking about Tebow? The guy couldnt break a pane of glass from 10 yds with that arm. I've seen the guy play a ton, and I've never once watched him throw and thought he had a strong, or even average arm.

 

[JBS]

Dude, Rivers' throwing ability was absolutely not in question. Some questioned his release, but not his arm strength, accuracy or ability to play in a pro style offense.

Tebow simply does not have the talent to be a regular NFL starter at QB. His arm his weak and his mechanics are horrendous. When the best thing they can say about his talent is "well he's a good short yardage runner", thats bad.

His biggest talent is his desire, you may not call that a talent, but I will...it will take him and anyone else a loooooooong ways in this world, the NFL included.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Why do people make fun of Tebow for crying? I don't get it. I wish every single player we have or ever plan on having would have that kind of passion towards the game. Heck, there are fans on this board who have admitted to crying after games. While I have never personally cried after a game, I wouldn't put it past me, especially if we were to win a superbowl. I don't know, something about cracking on Tebow for crying doesn't make sense to me...maybe it's just me

When I was 11 years old, I was the league MVP in our little league. I played SS and Pitcher and I was pitching a game where I got absolutely CRANKED. Having never experienced that before and being 11 years old, I started crying on the mound. Being a pitcher and getting absolutely shelled is about one of the loneliest experiences in life, be it sport or not. And being 11 years old, it's just amplifies it by tenfold.

Even still, my parents had a long talk with me that you're not supposed to cry because basically it is just a game and you stay composed for the team and stay strong because winners don't let things like that get best of them and basically come back fighting.

I think my case was very different from Tebow's, if anything because the game was over for Tebow. But, from the way I was raised...right or wrong...you don't cry when you lose.

Unfortunately, I think the people making fun of Tebow crying are doing it becasue they really hate the guy that beat their favorite team's brains in and this is the only way they can have something on him. But, that's probably another good reason to not cry, so the haters really can't hold that against you.

Don't give them the satisfaction.





YAKUZA

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Are you talking about Tebow? The guy couldnt break a pane of glass from 10 yds with that arm. I've seen the guy play a ton, and I've never once watched him throw and thought he had a strong, or even average arm.

I've seen him live in practice. He's got a very strong arm. His footwork and throwing motion are abysmal. I'd be more concerned with his throwing motion. Guys with windup motions the majority of the time don't get rid of it or struggle with accuracy when they do.




YAKUZA

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Umm no...

 

[Scranton Tiger]

Dude, Rivers' throwing ability was absolutely not in question. Some questioned his release, but not his arm strength, accuracy or ability to play in a pro style offense..

Yes, they did. Especially during his senior season. Because I'm in ACC country I saw him play alot during his four years at N.C. State. His release and arm strength were always a question mark. Didn't really play in a pro style offense either. Much of his snaps came in shotgun. Not all of them like Tebow, but a good bit. He has always been accurate though.

Tebow simply does not have the talent to be a regular NFL starter at QB. His arm is weak and his mechanics are horrendous. When the best thing they can say about his talent is "well he's a good short yardage runner", thats bad

As for Tebow, you are way off on the arm strength. The kid has a cannon. Displayed it alot during his four years at Florida. He's also pretty accurate. The questions about him are his motion, can he play under center and can he go through progressions. The last two we simply don't know because he was never asked to do it at Florida.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

the thing about Tebow's arm strength, is that he didn't have very many opportunities to show it off

as Florida's O relied on alot of quick passes from the spread

same thing that people question Dan Lefevour on, but when he does throw the ball long, he can wing it pretty good

 

[dbair1967]

I've seen him live in practice. He's got a very strong arm. His footwork and throwing motion are abysmal. I'd be more concerned with his throwing motion. Guys with windup motions the majority of the time don't get rid of it or struggle with accuracy when they do.

YAKUZA

This is from the Senior Bowl "stock down" report

Tim Tebow, QB, Florida – Tebow deserves a lot of praise for just showing up this week and accepting coaching throughout the week and I hope that Tebow’s magnified struggles this week don’t discourage players from showing up in the future. What we saw this week from Tebow was a release that’s among the worst I’ve seen from highly projected picks over the last decade. His mechanics make Byron Leftwich seem like Dan Marino. He showed marginal arm strength on the short and intermediate ball, but consistently threw a very pretty deep ball. Tebow struggled to make quick reads and seemed hesitant to throw passes to receivers just coming out of their breaks. He had a lot of help playing mostly out of the shotgun during the game, yet still finished with the worst yards per attempt of all six quarterbacks

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This is from the Senior Bowl "stock down" report

Tim Tebow, QB, Florida – Tebow deserves a lot of praise for just showing up this week and accepting coaching throughout the week and I hope that Tebow’s magnified struggles this week don’t discourage players from showing up in the future. What we saw this week from Tebow was a release that’s among the worst I’ve seen from highly projected picks over the last decade. His mechanics make Byron Leftwich seem like Dan Marino. He showed marginal arm strength on the short and intermediate ball, but consistently threw a very pretty deep ball. Tebow struggled to make quick reads and seemed hesitant to throw passes to receivers just coming out of their breaks. He had a lot of help playing mostly out of the shotgun during the game, yet still finished with the worst yards per attempt of all six quarterbacks

:laugh2:

don't you think his windup and delivery had a little to do with the problems on the short throws?

 

[dbair1967]

Yes, they did. Especially during his senior season. Because I'm in ACC country I saw him play alot during his four years at N.C. State. His release and arm strength were always a question mark. Didn't really play in a pro style offense either. Much of his snaps came in shotgun. Not all of them like Tebow, but a good bit. He has always been accurate though.


As for Tebow, you are way off on the arm strength. The kid has a cannon. Displayed it alot during his four years at Florida. He's also pretty accurate. The questions about him are his motion, can he play under center and can he go through progressions. The last two we simply don't know because he was never asked to do it at Florida.

Guess we'd have to disagree on both of these quite a bit. The only questions regarding Rivers that I recall were his release, and he went to the Senior Bowl and made a mint, wowing scouts during the practices and the game itself.

I've seen Tebow a ton, and the guy defintiely doesnt have a cannon, further I'm willing to bet that most of the draft guide write ups on him from just about everyone will all question his arm.

 

[Bleu Star]

How glad/mad would you be if the cowboys ended up getting Tim Tebow? Personally I think he is a great guy but i dont think we should get him there is no area that he could help the cowboys in.

We already have a fullback.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

People made fun of Tebow for crying because he came off like a spoiled brat. It was like he thought he could singlehandedly will his team to win every time, and when he didn't get what he expected, he looked like a little boy who wasn't getting his way.

But I just don't comprehend crying at losing a game anyway. Crying is for family members dying and truly sad events that happen in life. Be pissed off all you want, but don't cry.

Anyway, Tebow was, what, 6-2 or 6-3 and under 240 at the Senior Bowl. He's hardly some super-imposing figure at the NFL level. Maybe he can make it as a Cooley-style undersized move TE, if anything. But not a QB. He's terrible.

And as far as Rivers goes, yes, he had his funny motion questioned, but he was so poorly thought of that he went #4 overall. Hardly the same situation as Tebow, who probably won't even play QB in the league. Charlie Ward and Tommie Harris were "winners", too... Didn't help them.

And no, he never beat or even played my favorite team.

 

[Muhast]

Yes, they did. Especially during his senior season. Because I'm in ACC country I saw him play alot during his four years at N.C. State. His release and arm strength were always a question mark. Didn't really play in a pro style offense either. Much of his snaps came in shotgun. Not all of them like Tebow, but a good bit. He has always been accurate though.


As for Tebow, you are way off on the arm strength. The kid has a cannon. Displayed it alot during his four years at Florida. He's also pretty accurate. The questions about him are his motion, can he play under center and can he go through progressions. The last two we simply don't know because he was never asked to do it at Florida.

Rivers accuracy and touch was raved about by scouts in every scouting report....

A better comparison for Timmy would be Ken Dorsey/Jason White. Other "Winners" who were great in college and never made it as a pro.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Rivers accuracy and touch was raved about by scouts in every scouting report....

A better comparison for Timmy would be Ken Dorsey/Jason White. Other "Winners" who were great in college and never made it as a pro.

Tebow has a bit more physical talent than Dorsey and White

 

[The Quest for Six]

How glad/mad would you be if the cowboys ended up getting Tim Tebow? Personally I think he is a great guy but i dont think we should get him there is no area that he could help the cowboys in.

the guy will be a bust, classic college qb, not nfl material and dont want any part of him on dallas

 

[Jarv]

People made fun of Tebow for crying because he came off like a spoiled brat. It was like he thought he could singlehandedly will his team to win every time, and when he didn't get what he expected, he looked like a little boy who wasn't getting his way.

But I just don't comprehend crying at losing a game anyway. Crying is for family members dying and truly sad events that happen in life. Be pissed off all you want, but don't cry.

Anyway, Tebow was, what, 6-2 or 6-3 and under 240 at the Senior Bowl. He's hardly some super-imposing figure at the NFL level. Maybe he can make it as a Cooley-style undersized move TE, if anything. But not a QB. He's terrible.

And as far as Rivers goes, yes, he had his funny motion questioned, but he was so poorly thought of that he went #4 overall. Hardly the same situation as Tebow, who probably won't even play QB in the league. Charlie Ward and Tommie Harris were "winners", too... Didn't help them.

And no, he never beat or even played my favorite team.

Heck, I saw Charlie Ward play live at MSG many times He was serviceable and had a respectable career...For the Knicks !...lol.

 

[Muhast]

Tebow has a bit more physical talent than Dorsey and White

I know that, but those two were also "proven winners". He may be more talented physically, but he needs a complete overhaul on his entire game.

 

[7footer]

No way.

With that no-nonsense personnel guy they now have there...not much chance Tebow ends up there unless he falls to the 4th round....then it may happen due to possible value. They are decent at TE and Garrard is far better than Tebow will ever be. But they do need a QB to start developing...so if they like someone late they may go there. I just don't see it bewing Tebow...way too much local pressure for them to be that stupid to bring him there.

Not that I disagree with your assessment of what they should do...but I believe they will draft him in the first round for economic reasons, if for nothing else.

Think of it this way...He's a Florida native who was a local/national hero, multiple championship winner, and Heisman winner at their biggest college. The Jacksonville franchise is in desperate need of a way to attract more fans and season ticket holders. What better way than to bring in a hometown favorite like Tebow?