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DCfaninDC;1952944 said:
No, I didn't miss it but you clearly undermined it. TO was very vocal with McNabb. Do you remember the footage of TO pacing McNabb back and forth on the sidelines with McNabb trying everything he can to avoid him?
No. I've got freaking amnesia.

I remember isolated incidents, but nothing like what Johnson does on a week to week and play by play basis. It's overlooked because everyone is enamored with his antics, but by season's end it was clearly wearing on Carson. Maybe he wouldn't be so bad if they weren't losing, but they were, and he was.
 

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Sonny#9;1952946 said:
That's....my....quarterback man....it....isn't....fair! (sorry couldn't resist that one!)
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That was funny.
 

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DCfaninDC;1952944 said:
No, I didn't miss it but you clearly undermined it. TO was very vocal with McNabb. Do you remember the footage of TO pacing McNabb back and forth on the sidelines with McNabb trying everything he can to avoid him?

In hindsight, I think TO was probably correct in whatever he was doing at that time.
 

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Sonny#9;1952946 said:
Honestly, I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that TO is handled with kid gloves in Dallas -- complete opposite of what Reid and McNabb did in Philly. He's given whatever he wants.

He also may be on some much needed medication. As good of a player as TO is, he's an emotionally unstable psychopath in my opinion.

You gotta do what you gotta do. He's also got an unassuming QB in Romo rather than an insecure QB in McNabb.

That's....my....quarterback man....it....isn't....fair! (sorry couldn't resist that one!)
You wish you had a QB that his receivers felt that strongly about. Instead, you've got Jason Campbell...and the only real emotion we ever see from Santana Moss is him shaking his head as he heads back to the huddle because he was wide open 35 yards downfield and Jason Campbell just overthrew him.

Again.

It's bleak, I know. ;)
 

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superpunk;1952954 said:
You gotta do what you gotta do. He's also got an unassuming QB in Romo rather than an insecure QB in McNabb.

I think it more has to do with the his ego is assuaged in Dallas more then anything else, but this is all opinion and conjecture.

superpunk;1952954 said:
You wish you had a QB that his receivers felt that strongly about. Instead, you've got Jason Campbell...and the only real emotion we ever see from Santana Moss is him shaking his head as he heads back to the huddle because he was wide open 35 yards downfield and Jason Campbell just overthrew him.

Again.

There were several players that came out and publicly backed Campbell when he got hurt and Collins came in and played well.

And, what's particularly funny about that clip is as hard has TO was crying, his cheeks looked pretty dry... :)


superpunk;1952954 said:
It's bleak, I know. ;)

It's ALOT less bleak with Zorn instead of Fassel!!!
 

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Sonny#9;1952962 said:
I think it more has to do with the his ego is assuaged in Dallas more then anything else, but this is all opinion and conjecture.

You can think whatever you want. The NFC's best receiver plays in Dallas, and he seems quite content. :) Nothing else really matters.

There were several players that came out and publicly backed Campbell when he got hurt and Collins came in and played well.

Don't pretend that you don't know what I'm talking about. I enjoy seeing Santana jog dejectedly back to the huddle almost as much as you hate it. That's alot of energy to expend only to have your incompetent QB miss you over and over again. The good news was his mood seemed to improve late in the season.

Todd Collins...championship!

It's ALOT less bleak with Zorn instead of Fassel!!!

I suppose if given the choice, I would talk myself into contracting cancer before I'd choose AIDs, too. I guess the embarassing way your head coaching search was conducted, and ultimately resolved has worn off and you're back to slurping the Kool-Aid. Good times.
 

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Hostile;1952953 said:
Who is we? Because it better not be the Cowboys.
Come on now, Lloyd is not that bad. I think Gibbs and the team didn't like him because he was not their choice. They were force to insert him in the line-up by Dan. I thought he was a good player when he was in SF.

Also, how sweet would it be if the Cowboys get Lloyd and then he does really well in Dallas?
 

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DCfaninDC;1952972 said:
Come on now, Lloyd is not that bad. I think Gibbs and the team didn't like him because he was not their choice. They were force to insert him in the line-up by Dan. I thought he was a good player when he was in SF.

Also, how sweet would it be if the Cowboys get Lloyd and then he does really well in Dallas?


It's best to learn from the midget's mistakes, not repeat them. Come off the ledge, friend.
 

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superpunk;1952969 said:
I suppose if given the choice, I would talk myself into contracting cancer before I'd choose AIDs, too. I guess the embarassing way your head coaching search was conducted, and ultimately resolved has worn off and you're back to slurping the Kool-Aid. Good times.

ouch. that one is gonna leave a pretty hefty mark.
 

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DCfaninDC;1952972 said:
Come on now, Lloyd is not that bad. I think Gibbs and the team didn't like him because he was not their choice. They were force to insert him in the line-up by Dan. I thought he was a good player when he was in SF.

Also, how sweet would it be if the Cowboys get Lloyd and then he does really well in Dallas?


Anyone have that gif of the might Brandon Lloyd ducking that pass when he was a Commander? Or was he still a 49'er...

Yeah, great, great reciever!

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CrazyCowboy;1952521 said:
Let the Commanders have this headache.
yea right you know if chad wanted to be a Cowboy and Jerruh took Him you would be happy.



CJ on the Commanders is not good...Just like t.O on the Cowboys was headache for the rest of the NFC EAST and they all laughed at us for taking Him. Now look...
 

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SultanOfSix;1952951 said:
In hindsight, I think TO was probably correct in whatever he was doing at that time.
In a Nutshell, T.O. basically said that he couldn't trust McNabb and he was a Choker. Wasn't that been bored out?. Look how well the Eagles played last year with Garcia and again this year once they were out of the playoff picture with no pressure on them. Sheldon Brown said as much.
 

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superpunk;1952969 said:
You can think whatever you want. The NFC's best receiver plays in Dallas, and he seems quite content. :) Nothing else really matters.

OMG -- you guys signed Larry Fitzgerald?!?! When did that happen? Do you have link, I can;t find it on ESPN :)

superpunk;1952969 said:
Don't pretend that you don't know what I'm talking about. I enjoy seeing Santana jog dejectedly back to the huddle almost as much as you hate it. That's alot of energy to expend only to have your incompetent QB miss you over and over again. The good news was his mood seemed to improve late in the season.

Or maybe as many times as Campbell put the ball on the money only to have Moss drop it.

superpunk;1952969 said:
I suppose if given the choice, I would talk myself into contracting cancer before I'd choose AIDs, too. I guess the embarassing way your head coaching search was conducted, and ultimately resolved has worn off and you're back to slurping the Kool-Aid. Good times.

Yeah, b/c saying someone is "a lot less bleak" is slurping Koo-Aid I guess. :rolleyes:
 

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Sonny#9;1953059 said:
OMG -- you guys signed Larry Fitzgerald?!?! When did that happen? Do you have link, I can;t find it on ESPN :)

I didn't say anything about the second best receiver in the NFC. Check your monitor, it might have AIDs.

Or maybe as many times as Campbell put the ball on the money only to have Moss drop it.

I think we both know which was a more frequent occurrence. In any case, "Bubba Gump" Campbell doesn't inspire the same kind of devotion that Tony Romo does, yet. Maybe Bubba can get that YPA over 7 this season? Probably not. Then we'll have to endure all the "It's not his fault, this is his 86th offensive coordinator in the past 3 months" denial. Ugh...

Yeah, b/c saying someone is "a lot less bleak" is slurping Koo-Aid I guess. :rolleyes:

You're already talking yourself into how this isn't so terrible, or not as terrible as it could have been. The next step is full blown acceptance, where you've convinced yourself that Zorn is just so impressive and amazing that Snyder had to have him, and was the only one to see these qualities in him. I'm embarrassed for you in advance.
 

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superpunk;1953069 said:
You're already talking yourself into how this isn't so terrible, or not as terrible as it could have been. The next step is full blown acceptance, where you've convinced yourself that Zorn is just so impressive and amazing that Snyder had to have him, and was the only one to see these qualities in him. I'm embarrassed for you in advance.

at the risk of agreeing with superpunk and freaking out a lot of long time posters, i have to agree. zorn vs. fassell is much like carter vs. hutch turd debates.

being a better turd still does not remove the fact you're a turd.
 

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superpunk;1952949 said:
No. I've got freaking amnesia.

I remember isolated incidents, but nothing like what Johnson does on a week to week and play by play basis. It's overlooked because everyone is enamored with his antics, but by season's end it was clearly wearing on Carson. Maybe he wouldn't be so bad if they weren't losing, but they were, and he was.
I am sorry that you have amnesia. Then let me tell you what happened. So when McNabb threw a couple of incomplete passes....LOL.

Seriously though, I think you are over-reacting. Johnson only had what, only a handful of those incidents? I mean it wasn't like every single game or something.
 
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