We got Lavar Edwards in a trade (conditional 7th) ***Merged***

[lostar2009]

What is the stat line for this guy? Why are we giving up draft picks for players we know we will cut in a few days?

 

[AbeBeta]

If it were Ware would you being arguing this? They expect him back by WK 3. Seems like a no brainer to me to keep him inactive until then.

Especially since you have to sit a bunch of guys every game anyway

 

[AbeBeta]

What is the stat line for this guy? Why are we giving up draft picks for players we know we will cut in a few days.

Conditional pick. Often the conditions are pretty restrictive.

 

[AbeBeta]

Spencer ended up getting micro fracture surgery after he was hurried back to the field last year.

I hope Spencer isn't rushing his recovery.

Him coming back had nothing to do with the surgery. He tried to play and it became clear his knee wouldn't let him. More rest doesn't regenerate cartilage.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

What is the stat line for this guy? Why are we giving up draft picks for players we know we will cut in a few days?

Could be. He doesn't knock my socks off. His performance this preseason and last season wasn't anything to write home about. Like others have said he plays the same position as do other DL (strong-side DE).

Doesn't have the quick bust to play on the weak-side.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Him coming back had nothing to do with the surgery. He tried to play and it became clear his knee wouldn't let him. More rest doesn't regenerate cartilage.

Yep.

I wouldn't be surprised that Spencer's knee problem actually started during the 2012 season.

 

[jobberone]

I think he's more a a WDE option on this team. But it will be interesting to see what Marinelli does with him.

Selvie despite PFF's numbers was not real strong in the run last year. I see Selvie as more WDE than SDE although he can play both. I see Spencer more as a SDE than WDE but he will play both. Crawford is more SDE than a 3 or WDE but he will likely see some of all. Until Lawrences gets back it will be interesting to see the nickel DL. Esp now that we've gotten a DE in a trade.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Selvie despite PFF's numbers was not real strong in the run last year. I see Selvie as more WDE than SDE although he can play both. I see Spencer more as a SDE than WDE but he will play both. Crawford is more SDE than a 3 or WDE but he will likely see some of all. Until Lawrences gets back it will be interesting to see the nickel DL. Esp now that we've gotten a DE in a trade.

Agreed. Selvie will open up the season as the weakside DE.

 

[jobberone]

Spags and Broaddus have heard that he was expected back WK 2 or 3, with 3 being more realistic.

With Ware gone Spencer is a right end now. He can rush both.

Maybe. I see Selvie, Edwards and Lawrence more as WDE and Spencer and Crawford more as SDEs. But some will play both.

 

[unionjack8]

LOL

yep, we dont even have a slight swell, let alone a wave

 

[Gaede]

Agreed. Selvie will open up the season as the weakside DE.

He has to. Who else would?

That WDE spot is an eyesore. And it will remain that way. Ppl don't just give away pass rushers.

 

[lostar2009]

Could be. He doesn't knock my socks off. His performance this preseason and last season wasn't anything to write home about. Like others have said he plays the same position as do other DL (strong-side DE).

Doesn't have the quick bust to play on the weak-side.

Guy was drafted I think last year. Had nothing more than a few tackles. At least when we bought in Selvie he was a preseason stand out with a few sacks. What's the word on Michael Sam.?

 

[jobberone]

Him coming back had nothing to do with the surgery. He tried to play and it became clear his knee wouldn't let him. More rest doesn't regenerate cartilage.

More rest after surgery will help cartilage regrow into the surgical area. How long post surgery it makes a difference I do not know.

 

[Bluestang]

Spencer had a scope done in July of last year.

 

[jobberone]

Spencer had a scope done in July of last year.

Yes he did but could not finish the first game. He had microfracture surgery around October 1 of last year. It takes time for cartilage to regenerate from the blood seeping from the wounds from the laser. I've never seen this procedure and that's about as much as I know.

 

[Bluestang]

Yes he did but could not finish the first game. He had microfracture surgery around October 1 of last year. It takes time for cartilage to regenerate from the blood seeping from the wounds from the laser. I've never seen this procedure and that's about as much as I know.

What I'm saying is that he may have rushed coming back after the scope in July leading to the micro fracture.

Injuries and this team are always a huge mystery anyways. The point is that the player says one thing and management says another.

 

[5Stars]

What I'm saying is that he may have rushed coming back after the scope in July leading to the micro fracture.

Injuries and this team are always a huge mystery anyways. The point is that the player says one thing and management says another.

That is why I want this player gone. He made 10.5 million for doing nothing last season and now it is not known if he can make a comeback or not.

 

[Corso]

yep, we dont even have a slight swell, let alone a wave

Maybe a harbor wake?

 

[jobberone]

What I'm saying is that he may have rushed coming back after the scope in July leading to the micro fracture.

Injuries and this team are always a huge mystery anyways. The point is that the player says one thing and management says another.

I doubt that although it's possible. If he needed microfracture surgery then the scope would have told them that. Some people seem to do okay without a lot of cartilage while others need it all and some. They would have sat down to discuss it and Spencer chose to try and play on it then get surgery if necessary later. Well, later came too soon for him and us all. Playing on it likely at most aggravated a preexisting condition.

You tell a patient one thing or a family one thing and can ask them what you just said and they'll all repeat it back differently by and large. It's not unusual to hear others say something differently.

 

[speedkilz88]

I doubt that although it's possible. If he needed microfracture surgery then the scope would have told them that. Some people seem to do okay without a lot of cartilage while others need it all and some. They would have sat down to discuss it and Spencer chose to try and play on it then get surgery if necessary later. Well, later came too soon for him and us all. Playing on it likely at most aggravated a preexisting condition.

You tell a patient one thing or a family one thing and can ask them what you just said and they'll all repeat it back differently by and large. It's not unusual to hear others say something differently.

Yeah, it was my understanding that they thought he had enough cartilage to play on after the scope. That the reason for the early optimism by his agent was that there wasn't a lot of damage and that they thought that the blood/fluid from the surgery would pool and stay where it was needed.