Wells Conclusion: Guilty

StarBoyz83

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The patriots should only be allowed to cheat when they are playing the stealers. New rule.
 

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I see Goddell putting Ted Wells on the commissioner's exempt list this year and then suspending him for 10 years (1 month after appeal).
 

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Lose the next five consecutive 1st round picks and ban from the playoffs for the next five years and suspend Brady and Belicheat for two years without pay.
 

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Of course Bill knew.

He wrote a physics book about footballs.

Nobody farts in Foxboro until Bill gives the ok.
Well now you're cherry picking what to believe in the report. I think the league will have a hard time punishing Belichick when the report concluded Belichick didn't know.
 

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Wow...an adjustment to the game ball so it feels better.

This just in:
  • No one cares that kickers use their own balls that don't meet the exact same specifications as the game balls
It's a different part of the game requiring different activities and was agreed upon by the rules committee and the players union. Apples vs. Oranges

  • No one cares that Biletnikoff was covered in sticky goo while playing receiver.
It was legal at the time Biltenikoff was using it. It has since been made illegal.

  • No one cares that teams steal signs in both baseball and football
Quite the contrary as in baseball if you get caught stealing signs, the pitcher will throw at your head the next time you're up. There's also been countless occasions where baseball brawls have started due to stealing signs. And I don't think Brooklyn Dodgers fans took to kindly to Bobby Thomson allegedly stealing signs when he hit is famous home run 'heard around the world.'

With football, SpyGate was bad enough. But the problem with trying to steal signs in football the 'ole fashioned way' is that it is nearly impossible to do without videotape. You might get a few right, but you're likely to get some wrong as well. And it's tough to prevent somebody from doing it the 'ole fashioned way.'

  • No one cares that players cheat on plays throughout the game, holding, kicking, etc. because they know they'll get away with it more than it will be called
Holding somebody isn't 'cheating.' It's violating a rule. Often times without any attempt to do so because it's a split second activity. With SpyGate and DeflateGate, it required premeditated thought and execution that can take time over days, even years.

Anyone think that any coach in the NFL wouldn't take a playbook if they saw it sitting on a bench or look in one if another player handed it to them?

I don't think Don Shula would. He was notorious for despising cheating of any kind or form.





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Guilty isn't the conclusion and thats the issue. What makes me angry is that Roger and the league are such wusses about making conclusions. The whole report says "might have" "probably" "more than likely" etc. There is still no definitive, "you got caught." So you will get months of more belly-aching. Unreal.
 

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Am I the only one who doesn't really give a crap? Deflated balls. Who cares. Teams do things all the time to get advantages...........
 

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You know, now that I think about it. The Pats and Belicheat should be forced to part ways since they continuously get caught cheating.
 

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Am I the only one who doesn't really give a crap? Deflated balls. Who cares. Teams do things all the time to get advantages...........
Well the Vikings got caught tampering with balls and got nothing more than a letter of warning....
 

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The patriots should only be allowed to cheat when they are playing the stealers. New rule.
Well if Brady is suspended, Steelers will benefit most of all since they're the week 1 opponent...
 

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Well now you're cherry picking what to believe in the report. I think the league will have a hard time punishing Belichick when the report concluded Belichick didn't know.

I didn't need the report to know what to believe. Belichick has been quoted talking about the conditions of the footballs during practice. He is that meticulous. He also wrote a forward in a physics book about footballs. Since he was punished for Spy-gate he would get a year for this and everyone is protecting him.
 

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Well now you're cherry picking what to believe in the report. I think the league will have a hard time punishing Belichick when the report concluded Belichick didn't know.

Did it conclude he didn't know, or just couldn't prove he didn't know? I seriously doubt he didn't know, but if he never got near the balls, you can't say he did unless someone comes out and says he did.
 

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Did it conclude he didn't know, or just couldn't prove he didn't know? I seriously doubt he didn't know, but if he never got near the balls, you can't say he did unless someone comes out and says he did.

Its like John Gotti saying he didn't know what Sammy the Bull was doing.

It doesn't pass the smell test, but its hard to prove when the underlings fall on their swords.
 

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I'm suprised the report says as much as it did. While I knew they wouldn't be exonerated, I thought they would use the inconclusive excuse (kinda did though)
 

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Its like John Gotti saying he didn't know what Sammy the Bull was doing.

It doesn't pass the smell test, but its hard to prove when the underlings fall on their swords.

Just suspend him for "conduct detrimental to the league", they can do that even if a player is not gultity. the Pats have tarnished the image of the league.
 
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