What would happen if Dak stopped listening to the coaches?

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Damn Tony, where are ya when we need ya. I'm so down I'm thinking of throwing White out there. I think that would be hilarious to watch. Run Mikey run, damn Mikey that's gonna leave a permanent scar:laugh:
 

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His first full year was after sitting for 2 1/2 years. And he was elite. Of course there was "Romo mania"

Did you see what we were trotting out there before him? Not even to diminish his greatness. Just the teams, not the QB.

And hell, his teams were often lopsided and poorly constructed.

Romo had 5 elite seasons. All on his own. He'd be a HOF if he played for Andy Reid or Belichick.
You're missing my point entirely. During his first full season of play, we always had a chance. Even now with Dak, do you feel the same way going into 3rd and 18? You could argue that Dak has a better team around him.
 

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Linehan actually has substantial skins on the wall....dang nice offensive output in Detroit, was a innovator in the rpo as he came up thru college ranks, he gave ideas to some high profile coaches ...

I see Linehan as having a nose ring to garrets scheme

Is a reason Garrett went several time to coach k basketball ....they both beleive if you have nuff talent out in the arena you can impose your will....might work in bb where one Lebron can take you a long way, or one a.rogers at the key position.....but not having those, the team is hamstrung by poor scheme
Linehan is lousy at play calling. When you have the best RB in the NFL inside the 10 yard line on 1st and goal and you DON'T run the ball once - you're an idiot. And that's one example.
He's never coached an elite RB, he's only had primary passing offenses.
 

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Fair. But I still believe there's a defining moment yet to come for Dak's career and it will be when he says screw you to the dumbing down and starts to truly take over the offense.
Well...it's either that defining moment or the Cowboys are looking for a new QB in 2019.
 

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You're missing my point entirely. During his first full season of play, we always had a chance. Even now with Dak, do you feel the same way going into 3rd and 18? You could argue that Dak has a better team around him.
Don't know about the better team part. Tony had TO and young, still mobile,Witt, Crayton, that played pretty well, Barber a pretty good defense with Ware and Ellis with double digit sacks each, T-New, Hamlin, Henry and Roy Williams with several picks each, we had a pretty good OL with Flozell, Columbo and Gurode and Folk hadn't gotten the yips yet. I think we had a dozen Pro-Bowlers on that team. I wish we had that talent on this team now. Dak doesn't have anywhere near that amount of talent around him. Don't drink the kool-aid.
 

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Linehan is lousy at play calling. When you have the best RB in the NFL inside the 10 yard line on 1st and goal and you DON'T run the ball once - you're an idiot. And that's one example.
He's never coached an elite RB, he's only had primary passing offenses.
Jump balls to Megatron will make your offense look pretty good.
 

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Don't know about the better team part. Tony had TO and young, still mobile,Witt, Crayton, that played pretty well, Barber a pretty good defense with Ware and Ellis with double digit sacks each, T-New, Hamlin, Henry and Roy Williams with several picks each, we had a pretty good OL with Flozell, Columbo and Gurode and Folk hadn't gotten the yips yet. I think we had a dozen Pro-Bowlers on that team. I wish we had that talent on this team now. Dak doesn't have anywhere near that amount of talent around him. Don't drink the kool-aid.
Cold hard facts!!!
 

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I thought we released Dez because he didn’t listen to coaches and because of that, it was hurting Dak’s performance..
We released Dez because he was and still is a whiny cancerous crybaby. Do I need to continue with any more descriptors?
 

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We released Dez because he was and still is a whiny cancerous crybaby. Do I need to continue with any more descriptors?

So now you are saying Dak should just ignore the coaches and the system and do his own thing, kind of like Dez apparently was telling Dak to do, making Dak unsuccessful... that’s cute

What’s also cute is you thinking Dak was doing his own thing in 2016 when it was Linehan who dumbed down the offense for Dak, thus all the bootlegs, read options and play action..
 

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Don't know about the better team part. Tony had TO and young, still mobile,Witt, Crayton, that played pretty well, Barber a pretty good defense with Ware and Ellis with double digit sacks each, T-New, Hamlin, Henry and Roy Williams with several picks each, we had a pretty good OL with Flozell, Columbo and Gurode and Folk hadn't gotten the yips yet. I think we had a dozen Pro-Bowlers on that team. I wish we had that talent on this team now. Dak doesn't have anywhere near that amount of talent around him. Don't drink the kool-aid.
ah yes, the 13 pro bowlers conversation...don't drank that kool-aid...
 

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ah yes, the 13 pro bowlers conversation...don't drank that kool-aid...


They also forget Tony Romo had Jason Garrett as his play caller and wasn’t allowed in game planning meetings until he got his new contract nor did he have Callahan and that all pro line developed my him with the running game a majority of his career, another guy Garrett grew jealous of and feuded with.

Clearly they also forget pro-bowl is voted by the fans and when the Dallas Cowboys have some success, they get a lot of players in the pro-bowl just on fandom alone. Also Being on America’s team is why a player like Dak earned the most endorsements of any NFL player in 2017, more than even guys like Brady..

All of these guys became pro bowl linemen because of Romo buying time. Leonard Davis was a bust before Romo, Guride couldn’t even call plays as center, Columbo was another journeyman and so so. This group, minus Davis allowed close to 50 sacks after Flozell Adams went down in like 2005 or 2006.
 

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So now you are saying Dak should just ignore the coaches and the system and do his own thing, kind of like Dez apparently was telling Dak to do, making Dak unsuccessful... that’s cute

What’s also cute is you thinking Dak was doing his own thing in 2016 when it was Linehan who dumbed down the offense for Dak, thus all the bootlegs, read options and play action..
Yes. I'm saying Dak should do what Romo did about 10 years ago. Did you have any issues with it when Romo did it?

Are you a Romo supporter/lover/misser?

Provide more context please... Thanks.

As I noted earlier in this thread, Romo replaced the woefully unpopular Bledslug. Dak has the wonderful distinction of replacing everyone's favorite golden boy Romo. Slightly different sitcheashen.
 

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Yes. I'm saying Dak should do what Romo did about 10 years ago. Did you have any issues with it when Romo did it?

Romo wouldn’t have done it with Linehan, who he only had for a full season with training camp in 2014 and he threw 35 TDs and only 9 INTs.

If Linehan was here with Romo and Wade ten years ago, we probably would have had at least 1 SB by now and competed for multiple NFC championships.
 

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I don't think Dak did his own thing in his rookie year. Quite the contrary.

I don't think Romo ignored the coaches. He just was able to compensate for a lot of their deficiencies.

I don't think Dak played "wide open" his rookie year. Again, quite the opposite. If anything, that is when things were dumbed down.
 

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Romo wouldn’t have done it with Linehan, who he only had for a full season with training camp in 2014 and he threw 35 TDs and only 9 INTs.

If Linehan was here with Romo and Wade ten years ago, we probably would have had at least 1 SB by now and competed for multiple NFC championships.
Linehan? Garrett? Please educate me on the difference between the way either of those two knuckleheads have run our offense.
 

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I don't think Dak did his own thing in his rookie year. Quite the contrary.

I don't think Romo ignored the coaches. He just was able to compensate for a lot of their deficiencies.

I don't think Dak played "wide open" his rookie year. Again, quite the opposite. If anything, that is when things were dumbed down.
I disagree with every point. But of course you already know that.

Dak wasn't poisoned by our environment until he had a full offseason to absorb the dumbing down effect.
 
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