Who Is The Best Team In Texas?

[DFWJC]

Best set of bigman are you kidding me? Oh man Mavs fans are funny. First of there is no way that is true. Odom, Gasol, Bynum >>>>>> Dirk, Chandler, Haywood and second no way yall are deeper than Boston, L.A., or even the Spurs. The Mavs are playoff chokers and will get killed by the Lakers in the playoffs. Well that is if they dont choke in the 1st round again.

You guys on this board crack me up by labeling all "Mavs Fans" by the opinion of 3-4 people on a football website.

 

[joseephuss]

I don't know how anyone can be a fan of an organization that drafted Detlef Schrempf(#8), Bill Wnningont(#16) and Uwe Blab(#17) in the first round of 1985. Probably the worst draft in NBA history. Only Schrempf became a somewhat decent player, but that wasn't during his time in Dallas.

They have come a long way as an organization. People complain about seeing Mark Cuban in the stands every game, but that is much better than seeing Don Carter with his stupid cowboy hat in the stands.

 

[DFWJC]

I don't know how anyone can be a fan of an organization that drafted Detlef Schrempf(#8), Bill Wnningont(#16) and Uwe Blab(#17) in the first round of 1985. Probably the worst draft in NBA history. Only Schrempf became a somewhat decent player, but that wasn't during his time in Dallas.

They have come a long way as an organization. People complain about seeing Mark Cuban in the stands every game, but that is much better than seeing Don Carter with his stupid cowboy hat in the stands.

:laugh1: Wow, what a nasty draft.

Yeah, they are a respectable franchise now. They are the 5th most valuable franchise in the NBA (behind only LA, Boston, Chi, NY) and the 3rd or 4th winningest team in the league over the last 10 seasons. The hardware is what's lacking.

 

[CATCH17]

Best set of bigman are you kidding me? Oh man Mavs fans are funny. First of there is no way that is true. Odom, Gasol, Bynum >>>>>> Dirk, Chandler, Haywood and second no way yall are deeper than Boston, L.A., or even the Spurs. The Mavs are playoff chokers and will get killed by the Lakers in the playoffs. Well that is if they dont choke in the 1st round again.

Chandler is better than Bynum and Dirk is way better than Pau.

Odom is yalls 3rd best big man? Give me a true center in Haywood over Odom.

Plus we have Mahimi who is dang good too.

We absolutely have the best bigs in the NBA.

 

[DFWJC]

Chandler is better than Bynum and Dirk is way better than Pau.

Odom is yalls 3rd best big man? Give me a true center in Haywood over Odom.

Plus we have Mahimi who is dang good too.

We absolutely have the best bigs in the NBA.

I'd for sure take Chandler and Dirk over Bynum and Pau.

Not so sure about Haywood over Odum, but as you said, Odum is not normally considered a big (he is a very good rebounder though). Marion comes off the bench a rebounds at that rate though--he just plays a few less minutes.

I don't know who has the best bigs, but Dallas is better than maybe they've ever been in the past inside....fwtw.

This stuff is in the eye of the beholder though.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Silly to think for a second that the Mavs bigs are better than the Lakers.

Absolutely homerism at its best.

The Lakers bench could start in most cities.

Odom, Blake, Brown, Walton, Ratliff, Ebanks, Caracter.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I don't know how anyone can be a fan of an organization that drafted Detlef Schrempf(#8), Bill Wnningont(#16) and Uwe Blab(#17) in the first round of 1985. Probably the worst draft in NBA history. Only Schrempf became a somewhat decent player, but that wasn't during his time in Dallas.

The thing is, that's not such a bad draft after all when you consider that it's very common for #16s and #17s to never make a team at all. Even #9s often don't make it.

And the Aguirre-Blackman-Harper-Perkins-Donaldson team from that same era (though a few years earlier) was the best team the Mavs franchise has ever produced.

 

[danielofthesaints]

Silly to think for a second that the Mavs bigs are better than the Lakers.

Absolutely homerism at its best.

The Lakers bench could start in most cities.

Odom, Blake, Brown, Walton, Ratliff, Ebanks, Caracter.

"Absolute "homerism" at its best is the Lakers bench that you just listed. Mavs bench is way better than that.

Lets see how they are producing this year:

#1 Odom:14.6 ppg, 9.0 rbs, 3.0 asts
#2 Brown: 9.3ppg, 2.1rbs, 1.2 asts
(time for the drop off)
#3 Blake:4.3 ppg, 2.2 rbs,2.1 asts
#4 Ebanks: 3.1ppg, 1.4 rbs, 0.1asts
#5 Walton: 2.0ppg, 1.3rbs, 1.1 asts
#6 Caracter: 2.1ppg, 1.1rbs, 0.2asts
#7 Ratliff: 0.3ppg, 1.6rbs, 1.4 asts

So if you think that this bench can start for most cities, even cleveland's starting front will give this bench a run for their money.

Now lets do ourselves a favor and look at the mavs bench production this year with my choosing of 7 players since you got to choose(Starting 5 would be Kidd, Dirk, Chandler, Butler, and Stevenson, which it has been the majority of the year)

#1 Jason Terry: 16.3ppg, 1.9rbs, 4.4 asts
#2 Shawn Marion: 11.8ppg, 6.7 rbs, 1.2asts
#3 JJ Barea: 9.3ppg, 2.0rbs, 3.6asts
#4 Peja: 9.0ppg, 3.3rbs, 1.1asts
#5 Roddy B: 7.5ppg, 0.8rbs, 2.8asts
#6 Haywood: 4.3ppg, 4.7rbs, 0.2asts
#7 Mahinmi: 3.3ppg, 1.9rbs, 0.1asts

Now, tell me who has the better production from their bench?There is no way LA's bench is better than the Mavs.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

The Lakers bench only needs 10 points a game.

Once again the stats don't tell the story. Watch the games, not the stat lines.

 

[danielofthesaints]

The Lakers bench only needs 10 points a game.

Once again the stats don't tell the story. Watch the games, not the stat lines.

LOL. Comeback of the day! Sorry, but the mavs bench is better than the Lakers with or without stats. Im still laughing that you put walton, caracter, and ratliff in that list. I could go to the local community college to efficiently replace their production for half the price.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

LOL. Comeback of the day! Sorry, but the mavs bench is better than the Lakers with or without stats. Im still laughing that you put walton, caracter, and ratliff in that list. I could go to the local community college to efficiently replace their production for half the price.

Again, watch the games when these players come in. The game can be in the balance, or over. The stats are meaningless when you look at the game.

 

[danielofthesaints]

Honestly, I dont get much LA basketball here in Dallas if its not TNT,ABC, or ESPN, but I will take up your offer and watch more of their games, and then come to a semi-biased conclusion.

 

[The Emperor]

Bowen might have been overly physical and borderline dirty....but he didn't take cheap shots like Terry has on numerous occasions.

I'm not at all an NBA fan anymore, but I can tell you one cheap shot Terry took.

It was the night the Cowboys got trounced by the Commanders 35-7 in Week 15 of the 2005 season. After being introduced, Jason Terry grabbed the microphone and said, "How 'bout them Commanders?"

Infidel.

 

[MC KAos]

You're nuts.


Jet, Brewer, Peja, Haywood, Barea, Mahimi, Marion, D. Stevenson.

Our bench is the best in the league and it's not close.

so, the guy that chokes in the playoffs, the guy that got let go by the KNICKS, the guy way past his prime who cant play defense, a decent big, a miniature sometimes streaky scorer backup PG who gets owned on defense by pretty much anyone, the guy the spurs let go even though they needed a big man, another guy past his prime, who cant create his own offense, and a decent big man? id rather have the spurs, lakers, celts, magics or bulls bench ANY day!! id rather have mike miller, the only decent bench guy in miami, over ANY of the mavs bench players

and thats beside the point that rotations get shortened to 8 or 9 players during the playoffs, so its really only the top 3 or 4 bench players that contribute, and from where im sitting, id rather have george hill, antonio mcdyess and gary neal over any three mavs bench warmers you can come up with

I'm not at all an NBA fan anymore, but I can tell you one cheap shot Terry took.

It was the night the Cowboys got trounced by the Commanders 35-7 in Week 15 of the 2005 season. After being introduced, Jason Terry grabbed the microphone and said, "How 'bout them Commanders?"

Infidel.

to be fair (cant believe im defending turd terry!) i believe that was stackhouse, but i could be wrong

 

[MC KAos]

"Absolute "homerism" at its best is the Lakers bench that you just listed. Mavs bench is way better than that.

Lets see how they are producing this year:

#1 Odom:14.6 ppg, 9.0 rbs, 3.0 asts
#2 Brown: 9.3ppg, 2.1rbs, 1.2 asts
(time for the drop off)
#3 Blake:4.3 ppg, 2.2 rbs,2.1 asts
#4 Ebanks: 3.1ppg, 1.4 rbs, 0.1asts
#5 Walton: 2.0ppg, 1.3rbs, 1.1 asts
#6 Caracter: 2.1ppg, 1.1rbs, 0.2asts
#7 Ratliff: 0.3ppg, 1.6rbs, 1.4 asts

So if you think that this bench can start for most cities, even cleveland's starting front will give this bench a run for their money.

Now lets do ourselves a favor and look at the mavs bench production this year with my choosing of 7 players since you got to choose(Starting 5 would be Kidd, Dirk, Chandler, Butler, and Stevenson, which it has been the majority of the year)

#1 Jason Terry: 16.3ppg, 1.9rbs, 4.4 asts
#2 Shawn Marion: 11.8ppg, 6.7 rbs, 1.2asts
#3 JJ Barea: 9.3ppg, 2.0rbs, 3.6asts
#4 Peja: 9.0ppg, 3.3rbs, 1.1asts
#5 Roddy B: 7.5ppg, 0.8rbs, 2.8asts
#6 Haywood: 4.3ppg, 4.7rbs, 0.2asts
#7 Mahinmi: 3.3ppg, 1.9rbs, 0.1asts

Now, tell me who has the better production from their bench?There is no way LA's bench is better than the Mavs.

i really dont get the lakers bench love from the media, its not that great imo, they have an amazing starting 5 and the most versatile and probably best 6th man tho, couple that with one of the greatest coaches and thats all your really need

 

[joseephuss]

The thing is, that's not such a bad draft after all when you consider that it's very common for #16s and #17s to never make a team at all. Even #9s often don't make it.

And the Aguirre-Blackman-Harper-Perkins-Donaldson team from that same era (though a few years earlier) was the best team the Mavs franchise has ever produced.

They could of had Karl Malone at #9.

 

[DFWJC]

"Absolute "homerism" at its best is the Lakers bench that you just listed. Mavs bench is way better than that.

Lets see how they are producing this year:

#1 Odom:14.6 ppg, 9.0 rbs, 3.0 asts
#2 Brown: 9.3ppg, 2.1rbs, 1.2 asts
(time for the drop off)
#3 Blake:4.3 ppg, 2.2 rbs,2.1 asts
#4 Ebanks: 3.1ppg, 1.4 rbs, 0.1asts
#5 Walton: 2.0ppg, 1.3rbs, 1.1 asts
#6 Caracter: 2.1ppg, 1.1rbs, 0.2asts
#7 Ratliff: 0.3ppg, 1.6rbs, 1.4 asts

So if you think that this bench can start for most cities, even cleveland's starting front will give this bench a run for their money.

Now lets do ourselves a favor and look at the mavs bench production this year with my choosing of 7 players since you got to choose(Starting 5 would be Kidd, Dirk, Chandler, Butler, and Stevenson, which it has been the majority of the year)

#1 Jason Terry: 16.3ppg, 1.9rbs, 4.4 asts
#2 Shawn Marion: 11.8ppg, 6.7 rbs, 1.2asts
#3 JJ Barea: 9.3ppg, 2.0rbs, 3.6asts
#4 Peja: 9.0ppg, 3.3rbs, 1.1asts
#5 Roddy B: 7.5ppg, 0.8rbs, 2.8asts
#6 Haywood: 4.3ppg, 4.7rbs, 0.2asts
#7 Mahinmi: 3.3ppg, 1.9rbs, 0.1asts

Now, tell me who has the better production from their bench?There is no way LA's bench is better than the Mavs.

SHHHH...don't let facts get in the way.

 

[DFWJC]

Again, watch the games when these players come in. The game can be in the balance, or over. The stats are meaningless when you look at the game.

The point was that it was not "absolute homerism". It can't be when you have that kind of statistical support.
I agree that it also has to pass the eye test, but you make it sound like it is not even debatable--which is comical (or sad).

 

[CATCH17]

Silly to think for a second that the Mavs bigs are better than the Lakers.

Absolutely homerism at its best.

The Lakers bench could start in most cities.

Odom, Blake, Brown, Walton, Ratliff, Ebanks, Caracter.

No. It's silly to think the Lakers have better big men.

 

[zrinkill]

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