Who is the better... Brady or Aikman?

[kartr]

I think part about struggling with new weapons, had a lot do with the type of offenses Cowboys ran. It had a lot to do with timing and precise pattern being run by WR and WR being good at catching the ball.

The thing people don't realize is, Brady, when taken out of his elements in NE, hasn't faired all that well. Example his Pro-bowl performances. I do think Brady is more of a system QB than Aikman, although I do think Brady might have done pretty well in Cowboys offense, but not as well as Aikman. Brady is not simply near that accurate to be as effective as Aikman and nor has he that strong of an arm, which you already stated.

NE offense, much like what BP wants to do, is predicated on having multiple JAGs ( just another guys) and not superstars at skill positions mostly. Thats why its kind of hard to scheme against NE, because, there is really no Big time WR you have defend or game plan against. They make you defend entire field pretty much and thats where the strength is. And thats where BP wants to head to, IMO.

Then we'd better trade Bledsoe for Brady then.

 

[kartr]

Didn't Brady throw for 4,110 yards last year with no running game and an injury-ridled offensive line? Yeah, all he has is the tuck rule to thank for his success. I think the 90s Cowboys would easily beat this latest version of the Patriots but I think that because their team was loaded. When the Cowboys started to crumble, so did Aikman. He was a good leader but he could never carry a team all by himself. Brady proved he could do that last year, as well as win Super Bowl titles. The only place this vote would even be close is on this board. I love Aikman but I answer questions as a football fan and this isn't even very close in my opinion. I think Brady wins easy and I believe I represent the non-Cowboy fan majority on this one.

Well said.

 

[kartr]

Most inaccurate observation ever made on this board. Brady doesn't have accuracy? Seriously, get the NFL Sunday Ticket and watch a Patriots game.

You've uncovered one of the biggest misconceptions about Brady. Good for you.

 

[kartr]

One last thing: Troy Aikman was NEVER considered the best quarterback in the NFL while he was playing. Not only is Brady considered the best right now, he gets compared to some of the all-time greats and he's only entering his sixth season. Keep that in mind, Brady is just entering his prime as he showed last year. Remember all the, "Brady is just part of a system" crap we heard? That he can't do what Peyton Manning does? I think he put that to rest last year. When it's all said and done years from now, this argument we are having now will be moot. Brady will go down as one of the two or three greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game and I don't think even this bunch of homers will say that about Aikman.

PS I love Aikman but I won't side with him on argument just because he's a Cowboy, despite how good he was. I just think this one is a blowout. If anyone was the system QB, it was Aikman. When he had to do what Brady did last year - playing without a strong supporting cast - he turned into an average quarterback. Sorry but that's the truth.

You're on a roll, but Brady's supporting cast was not exactly chopped liver. Even Charlie Weiss has said that Brady only has two reads on every pass play.

 

[Doomsday101]

Myself I respect both Brady and Aikman and would not change having Troy lead the Cowboys for nothing. Troy would come up with his biggest numbers in the teams biggest game. I'm sure the Pat fans feel the same about Brady. Who is the best that is purely a matter of opinion

 

[gbrittain]

the 1993 NFC Championship game was over at halftime...we were up 28-7 and Aikman was 14/18, 177 yds and 3tds...Kosar threw 9 passes in that game

also, I was at the 1993 Dallas/Atlanta game that Bernie Kosar started in place of Aikman...he was horrendous..Emmitt did get hurt and left early, but Kosar was one of the main reasons we lost to the team that at that time was one of the worst in football...Jason Garrett played a miracle game on Turkey Day in 1994, but we'd have never won a playoff game with him at QB, and definitely wouldnt have beaten the Bills or Steelers with him starting

this argument you have made about Aikman only winning because of the supporting cast around him is pretty old and tired...Tom Brady wouldnt win jack QB'ing the Buffalo Bills or Arizona Cardinals of the past few seasons...Terry Bradshaw wouldnt have won 4 super bowls if he were playing in Tamapa in the 70's...Joe Montana certainly wouldnt have won 4 super bowls playing for the Falcons or Packers of the 80's either

Brady plays on a superbly coached team who's defense has totally stoned some of the best offensive teams in football consistently since he's been there...he has always had good receivers and TE's to work with, and his OL consistently provides him with excellent pass protection....you also can not downplay the difference in the league today as opposed to the 80's and early to mid 90's...it IS watered down, there are NOT as many good (especially great)...the Bills teams that Dallas and Washington destroyed would win championships easily today...hell alot of teams that simply made the playoffs would be real tough for anyone to beat now...the league was LOADED then, it is NOT loaded today

David

That is what you call a slam dunk. Bravo.

 

[Kilyin]

I think Walter Payton and Jim Brown were both better than Emmitt - my favorite player of all-time. Does that make me not a Cowboys fan

Oh, you're one of 'those' fans. One who is scared to embrace the superstars and true greats of their respective teams for fear it may be perceived as 'homerism'.

What you just said is undeniably insane, especially for a Cowboys fan.

 

[gbrittain]

I have never ever in my life seen more lame arguments than those few who want to downgrade what Aikman accomplished.

All the things the Aikman detractors are "willing" to speculate on are always to Aikman's detriment. Seams kind of weird you ask me.

I am going to speculate that JJ never fires the other JJ and the following things happen or do not happen as the case may be.

1. Dallas wins four Super Bowls in a roll.

2. Jimmy actually drafts someone of consequence other than Larry Allen the last 6-7 years of Aikman's career unlike the trifecta of Switzer, Gailey and Campo.

3. Due to #2 above, Dallas actually rebuilds and makes another run at a Superbowl or two and actually win another Super Bowl or two.

You can not underestimate a career of someone like Aikman when he played seven years under Larry, Moe and Curly...I mean Switzer, Gailey and Campo.

Let Brady play for them guys the next seven years accompanied by a total bombing of the draft and let me know how great Brady looks.

I like Brady because to me he is the best QB in the league right now. Do not believe me I have said so before this thread ever came along. Use the search function if you do not believe me.

One day maybe Brady will overtake Aikman IMO as a greater QB, but he has not yet by a long shot.

The only legitimate knock on Aikman's career IMO is that he had a short career due to injuries.

 

[Concord]

I disagree, Brady can carry an offense, Aikman, as good as he was, was a complementary player.

Simply Unbelievable...Good God.

 

[gbrittain]

Simply Unbelievable...Good God.

Yeah and Quincy Carter was the REASON Dallas went 10-6 in 2003!

 

[Concord]

Yeah and Quincy Carter was the REASON Dallas went 10-6 in 2003!

Simply Amazing that he sticks up so adamantly for Carter and he was the reason for the 10-6 Blah Blah Blah...But Aikman was a Complimentary player.

Total Garbage.

 

[dbair1967]

Exactly. I'm not bashing Aikman, but a lot of qbs(Young,Montana,Farve,Marino,etc.) could have produced more with that supporting cast.

no they wouldnt...they'd have played within the same system that limited Aikman's numbers

and other than Aikman and Montana, not many QB's RAISED their levels of play in the games that mattered most (postseason)...Marino, Young, Favre etc etc...none of them played as well in the postseason as Aikman...not even close

David

 

[Aikmaniac]

Simply Amazing that he sticks up so adamantly for Carter and he was the reason for the 10-6 Blah Blah Blah...But Aikman was a Complimentary player.

Total Garbage.

Total trollage...no diehard Cowboys fan can think Quincy was the reason for anything except for my butt hurting from sitting on the edge of my seat every time he dropped back to pass.

 

[DallasEast]

Didn't Brady throw for 4,110 yards last year with no running game and an injury-ridled offensive line?

Sure, the offensive line had some casualties. Yet, that same line only surrendered 33 sacks last season. Compare their sacks to those which Indianapolis gave up. The Colts gave up 46! Manning's certainly no pushover, but he threw for only 3,747 yards. Perhaps his numbers weren't at Brady's level since he wasn't forced to throw 530 times like Brady--because Manning did have a running game in Edgerrin James!

And isn't 4,000+ passing yards a given when one considers that Brady did not have a running game, BUT he did have pretty good offensive weapons to throw to like:

Deion Branch
David Givens
Troy Brown
Ben Watson
Tim Dwight
Kevin Faulk
Daniel Graham
Patrick Pass
Andre Davis
Corey Dillon

--all of which had a minimum of 181 receiving yards per player? I mean, sure, none of them are Terrell Owens, but as targets with very good hands, they aren't exactly chop suey either, are they?

 

[Hostile]

Then we'd better trade Bledsoe for Brady then.

I'm all for it. And you just know New England will hand him over to us and welcome Bledsoe back with open arms.

I've never met anyone more blinded by foolish hate in my life.

 

[TobiasEagle77]

I've got to go with Brady.

 

[redneck39]

brady he doing good right now

 

[BeWare94]

I think thats where underestimation of Aikman comes. Aikman I believe would have won three SBs with NE team and probably Brady with Cowboys team.

I think so, too. With Belichick's defenses pitching a shut outs at times and always getting the timely game changing turnovers anything is possible. Hell, Brady was the MVP of the first of the Patriots three Super Bowl victories and he only threw for like 145 yards in the game. Belichick's defense/special teams won that Trophy.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I disagree, Brady can carry an offense, Aikman, as good as he was, was a complementary player.

I can not believe I just read that.

 

[TRUTH87]

peace of cake. Put Brady with that Cowboys' team that Aikman had, and he wins all the SB's played.