why does julius suck so bad right now?

[Kilyin]

If he was producing, he wouldn't be splitting as many carries. He's average.

Then by the same logic, Marion Barber is average too, because he's splitting carries with an average back. Your reasoning is completely flawed, sorry.

 

[Common Sense]

For the record, Julius is on pace for 299 carries, 1164 yards, and that's if he can average 3.9 YPC over the next few games. He hasn't done that since Week 6 against Houston.

 

[Common Sense]

Then by the same logic, Marion Barber is average too, because he's splitting carries with an average back. Your reasoning is completely flawed, sorry.

No, you just jump to conclusions. I never said anything about Barber. He's quite average. Pay attention.

 

[Clove]

It's funny how we forget what a great running back is supposed to be like and I can assure you Jones is NOT a great runner. But we have a 2 headed monster that works, and if it works, leave it alone.

However, if Parcells elected to draft another RB that was better than the 2 of them, I would not shed a tear. I'm all for getting better.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

anygivensunday read that.

I read "if".

I wouldn't count on that though.

I'm also aware that our passing production has increased... perhaps that has has had an effect on his numbers?

But I'm like most NFL coaches when it comes to these topics. Players stats don't mean squat to me. When the clock ticks down in the 4th quarter, I want more points than the opponent.

My main concern is that we've won 4 games in a row with Julius starting. I hold Ws in a lot higher regard than I do Julius' rushing yardage.

Just food for thought....

4 wins in a row!

Read that.

 

[stealth]

He was never as good as Cowboy fans thought he was to begin with.

*ducks and covers*

nope he wasn't


the fact is he is one dimensional has two moves, a little jump stutter, and the other is running into his own lineman.
If not for the emergence of marion barber he probably woulda gotten injured by this time anyways.

 

[Cochese]

My main concern is that we've won 4 games in a row with Julius starting. I hold Ws in a lot higher regard than I do Julius' rushing yardage.

Just food for thought....

4 wins in a row!

Read that.

Yes, and his average of 47 yards and no touchdowns is really leading the way on our winning efforts.

 

[burmafrd]

I ignored this thread pretty much since Grizz and Rafala Vela have already shot holes in the JJ haters anyway. Now some hate JJ because they hate ND (Just Say No is one of those). Others just join any bandwagon available.
Some are MB lovers. and some are just plain dumb.

 

[Sarge]

Julius is a good RB, not great and never will be great. I am not a big fan but he certainly doesn't suck. He'll never be the REAL answer, but he's solid.

 

[Rampage]

I read "if".

I wouldn't count on that though.

I'm also aware that our passing production has increased... perhaps that has has had an effect on his numbers?

But I'm like most NFL coaches when it comes to these topics. Players stats don't mean squat to me. When the clock ticks down in the 4th quarter, I want more points than the opponent.

My main concern is that we've won 4 games in a row with Julius starting. I hold Ws in a lot higher regard than I do Julius' rushing yardage.

Just food for thought....

4 wins in a row!

Read that.

your a blind jones homer. maybe our passing game has increased cause jj isn't doing his job!

 

[Ben_n_austin]

If he was producing, he wouldn't be splitting as many carries. He's average.

Non Sense, it's absurd to make that claim. There is a rhyme and reason as to why teams use the running back by committee approach.

They split carries so their legs stay fresh ... and they split carries because their different styles suit different situations.

If he were average, then he's average. But how does average suck when you're 8th in the league in rushing yardage?

Opposing defenses would put more pressure on us if we started Barber. He doesn't have the outside speed that Julius has.... so teams would stack the line.

I just can't believe how many Dallas fans don't get this concept. For those who do, I applaud you.

We're not the first team to use this RB by committee approach, effectively. And we won't be the last. It's a copy cat league. And we've been successful copy cats.

 

[Tuna Helper]

I remember a Parcells speaking in a press conference several months back about forcing Julius to trust his blockers and hit the gaps. He said JJ used too much of his insticts and did not follow his blockers in years past.

In addition, I'm not drinking the o-lne Koolaid. The o-line, with the insertation of Romo, seems to have gotten lazier, even on run blocking. With Romo back there, they don't always have to use the best technique for blocking. Any coincidence that JJ's production really dropped off when Romo became the starter? Thank goodness that Romo doesn't have feet cast in stone.

I think it is a combination of JJ thinking too much (with help from Parcells), and the o-line sucking worse than they did with Bledsoe.

 

[Kilyin]

No, you just jump to conclusions. I never said anything about Barber. He's quite average. Pay attention.

Sorry for not paying more attention, I tend to turn a blind eye to mental retardation.

So we have two average running backs, and it's just dumb luck our run game is ranked 8th in the NFL right now. Gotcha.

:rake:

 

[Clove]

I'd like to also say that our run blocking hasn't been too great, and that's why you have to give credit to Barber for making something out of nothing.

 

[Cochese]

I remember a Parcells speaking in a press conference several months back about forcing Julius to trust his blockers and hit the gaps. He said JJ used too much of his insticts and did not follow his blockers in years past.

In addition, I'm not drinking the o-lne Koolaid. The o-line, with the insertation of Romo, seems to have gotten lazier, even on run blocking. With Romo back there, they don't always have to use the best technique for blocking. Any coincidence that JJ's production really dropped off when Romo became the starter? Thank goodness that Romo doesn't have feet cast in stone.

I think it is a combination of JJ thinking too much (with help from Parcells), and the o-line sucking worse than they did with Bledsoe.

The o-line is lazier but Marion is averaging over 5+ yards in all of the games but 1 since Romo has taken over?

Blaming Parcells for Jones lack of production is the most absurd thing of all.

 

[Rampage]

The o-line is lazier but Marion is averaging over 5+ yards in all of the games but 1 since Romo has taken over?

Blaming Parcells for Jones lack of production is the most absurd thing of all.

nice avatar

 

[burmafrd]

One could make an arguement that JJ had no real reason to trust his blockers much last year. This year early on things were going pretty good; then its gone downhill. Grizz and Raf have shown that its not ALL JJ's fault. Some apparently is, and the reasons why are possibly more then a few. Not thinking, not reacting, following orders (go where the play is supposed to and nothing else), too much hesitation, too little patience, etc. And yet BP has not said basically one bad word about JJ except for that one play where he did not try and juke the safety. Wonder why?

 

[Tuna Helper]

The o-line is lazier but Marion is averaging over 5+ yards in all of the games but 1 since Romo has taken over?

Blaming Parcells for Jones lack of production is the most absurd thing of all.

Where did I blame Parcells in my post?

Parcells said this himself in a press conference. I'm not blaming him. Parcells did say that his running style needed to be changed. It takes time to adapt to new technique.

Perhaps MB3 has better technique?

 

[Ben_n_austin]

your a blind jones homer. maybe our passing game has increased cause jj isn't doing his job!

OR... maybe it's because we have a new quarterback named Tony Romo who can actually pass the ball? But let's not consider that fact as we claim that Julius sucks.....

As I said, I like Barber better as a player. But for different reasons.

But I'm a Julius homer, because you say I am.

I've gone on record saying that he's fragile, weak and lacks vision. But I'm not seeing that this year. And I think Barber has helped his game, but Julius, on the other hand, helps Barber's game - tremendously.

I'm just presenting you with logic and facts, so that you may be able to view this from a more objective viewpoint.

The important facts of the matter are that we are 8-4. And it's a team effort.

What I see is a team that is cohesive and selfless. And that is doing what they have to do to win - as a team - regardless of their individual statistics.

It's been a pleasure schooling you.

Maybe we'll pick up where we left off later, but as for now... I gotta run.

I'll keep an open mind, though, during the next game. When Barber has a good run, play, game... I'm going jump on this Jones sucks bandwagon ....

:tantrum: Start Barber, because 4-0 this month just isn't good enough!!


Personally, I couldn't care less who "starts" as long as we win. But both backs help each other's game.

 

[Common Sense]

Sorry for not paying more attention, I tend to turn a blind eye to mental retardation.

So we have two average running backs, and it's just dumb luck our run game is ranked 8th in the NFL right now. Gotcha.

:rake:

Who said you need a stud to have a good running game?