Without Dak this roster doesn't have a chance

[Blitzen]

Yea but overall these Franchise QB’s market price contracts aren’t a pecking order. It represents more about when you signed. Like Dak 3 years ago his deal was close to the top but up until current deal was 14th highest paid which was probably a better pecking order for him.

These deals this summer in 2-3 years will be probably average assuming Cap continue rising about 10% a year. It’s obviously a flawed system when it comes to QB contracts but it doesn’t appear it’s going to change with supply and demand issues.

What we also don’t always take into account as fans is teams QB’s also represents the figurehead franchises promote their label which is a huge merchandising and recognition mechanism.

Without a Franchise QB it is very difficult to sell their fans they have a product to build around. At some point of course if fans lose faith then it can wear thin on fans and ownership. It doesn’t appear to have wore thin on our ownership yet which means Dak is still a product they believe they can promote and build some fans hope around.

The fact he has so many sponsors using him to promote their product would support this notion despite however sour some fans have become. We must always remember the NFL is a business first. And QB’s are the most marketable product in the game.

Fans will buy consistent winning. Baltimore has a strong base because they are consistent winners (and make deep postseason runs from time to time). Dallas because of their legacy and 5 SB’s. QB’s are pretty easy to create storylines around, but building a better overall product is much smarter and is less reliant on one person who has a shelf life (and Dak’s is quickly running out).

 

[Cmac]

Even if we sat down together, broke every play down on slow terms, placed some on the front row to view the big screen, but went over the eye chart prior, it still wouldn't change the Dak hate

 

[glimmerman]

We must be watching completely different games. I'm watching the QB who is 2-5 (NFL record) in the playoffs.

Yeah I forgot his job is to stop the run.

 

[Diehardblues]

Fans will buy consistent winning. Baltimore has a strong base because they are consistent winners (and make deep postseason runs from time to time). Dallas because of their legacy and 5 SB’s. QB’s are pretty easy to create storylines around, but building a better overall product is much smarter and is less reliant on one person who has a shelf life (and Dak’s is quickly running out).

I totally agree . But our owner has figured if he can’t build that type of winner this is the next best thing still generating revenue not threatening his control.

 

[Diehardblues]

coincidentally the chiefs haven't given up more than 25 points in a single game since 2022... I can't put my finger on it, but seems to be a correlation between defense and qb winning percentage, especially in january?

tom brady, troy aikman, peyton manning, terry bradshaw and every qb except Kurt Warner that one year approves this message.

There’s been a few other SB Champs without a top or great defense . But yea generally great defenses win championships .

But this is a different era. Offenses attract fringe and fantasy fans. And generate revenue and interest. And can usually stay relative.

The leagues popularity now is built on QB’s and offenses. This is part of the reason Franchises are willing to pay Market Prices for less than great QB’s.

 

[RonWashington]

Was podcast listening Voch Lombardi made the point the Cowboys run so many curls and comebacks they bump into the corners who aren’t biting having studied Cowboy tape. Quite the indictment . And if Deuce Vaughn is running one screen and that’s his night , what’s that say about the Dalvin Cook signing ?

 

[RonWashington]

It was a great time for a Giants game on the schedule for a W .

 

[Diehardblues]

This is exactly what Romo endured except for the one-year DEZ caught the ball and the League office decided it wanted discount double check to advance. Romo could have a few Superbowl's, unfortunately he had Jerry, Garrett and a below average defense.

No doubt Romo didn’t have a great support group on the most part but I’m not sure he’d of won a few SB’s. I think some fans over valued him . Little too much affection for him.

He of course was an over achiever , very good sandlot instincts elevating others around him but he didn’t make the most of a couple his opportunities either.

2007 he had a better team than NY. And probably in 2014 too. Other than that no other teams enough for deeper runs .

And as far as the bad call on Dez instead of going for the big play on 4th down should have dumped off for a certain 1st down to extend the drive and run more time off the clock. Even if Dez scored Rodgers would have had ample time .

 

[RonWashington]

Did anyone catch that stat Dak was tied for 2nd with Sonny Jurgensen for TD throws against the Giants but Romo had them both beat by 12 .

I guess if Prescott fills out this latest contract that would be what 13 yrs , he may catch Romo who did it in far less yrs . Talk about success against this Giant franchise .

Chalk up double wins every season

 

[Diehardblues]

Did anyone catch that stat Dak was tied for 2nd with Sonny Jurgensen for TD throws against the Giants but Romo had them both beat by 12 .

I guess if Prescott fills out this latest contract that would be what 13 yrs , he may catch Romo who did it in far less yrs . Talk about success against this Giant franchise .

Chalk up double wins every season

Dak is probably going to break all of the Cowboys passing records basically from longevity if he fulfills his contract avoiding injury .

 

[ak47kaehu]

I rip on Dak a lot and wanted to get rid of him after last season.....but what you say is true.....and he's doing it without a run game....

 

[AmericanCowboy]

coincidentally the chiefs haven't given up more than 25 points in a single game since 2022... I can't put my finger on it, but seems to be a correlation between defense and qb winning percentage, especially in january?

tom brady, troy aikman, peyton manning, terry bradshaw and every qb except Kurt Warner that one year approves this message.

Yea what was Daks issue in 2019 when he gave up 270 yards rushing in a playoff game to the Rams?

If this defense was any good and could actually step up in big games, then Dak would be seen much better. But the defense has always been trash in any big game for the last decade.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Did anyone notice all of the super tight "no window" throws Dak completed vs the Giants D? Our receivers were not getting separation. Probably due to our O-Coordinator and Head Coach regarding to design plays to help our "not so quick/fast" WRs who struggle to gain any separation consistently. Dak truly carried our offense for most of the game with some of his "no window" super tight throws.

 

[Typhus]

Next year Dak's cap hit is 90 million. Lambs cap next year is 35 million. Next is Parsons contract.

Don't stare at the money, it doesn't matter.
Contract structure is much more important when dealing with the cap.
Our cap masters are still learning the process.

 

[RonWashington]

Dak is probably going to break all of the Cowboys passing records basically from longevity if he fulfills his contract avoiding injury .

Records are like you said longevity plus in this case success against mostly bad Giants teams . As a fan I want SB’s

 

[HanD]

2007 he had a better team than NY. And probably in 2014 too. Other than that no other teams enough for deeper runs .

Darn you crayton!

 

[Diehardblues]

Darn you crayton!

We had other opportunities to win the game including last drive in which Romo threw Int to end the game . I was sitting in that corner of the endzone .

 

[Diehardblues]

Records are like you said longevity plus in this case success against mostly bad Giants teams . As a fan I want SB’s

Of course but SB’s aren’t the only measurement of success.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Even if we sat down together, broke every play down on slow terms, placed some on the front row to view the big screen, but went over the eye chart prior, it still wouldn't change the Dak hate

All you gotta do to change the "Dak hate" is win championship. It's not a big or unreasonable ask. If Dak can't do that then you will have to accept the reality about him. You won't like it, and will continue to call names such as "hater", but you won't be able hide the truth with rhetoric.

Do you think Dak will produce a championship before he retires? I doubt that you do, so what is your real goal in being a Dak stan?

 

[Diehardblues]

Yea what was Daks issue in 2019 when he gave up 270 yards rushing in a playoff game to the Rams?

If this defense was any good and could actually step up in big games, then Dak would be seen much better. But the defense has always been trash in any big game for the last decade.

2016 was probably the most disappointing. Dak was pretty solid. Led us to what appeared winning scoring drive in final minutes . Only for defense to give up a miraculous 3rd and 20 to Rodgers which led to their winning FG.