Wouldn't it be great if our 'backups', k.o. the 'Skins' playoff hopes?

[Bull Frog]

Let me repeat it one more time: many of our key positions are already being played by backups and we're winning.

I agree with this 100%, the Skins starters are backup quality. Well said, although Collins is much better than Campbell.

 

[peplaw06]

Most of you Cowboys fans don't seem to get it. Let me repeat it one more time: many of our key positions are already being played by backups and we're winning. Your team has been mostly healthy this season. So to me, Cowboys haven't done anything special.

Mostly healthy? We've been without our #1 NT and #2 WR for basically the entire season. We've had our CBs hobbled with injuries all year, and they've played through it. We got our starting SOLB back full time midway through the season. Despite all that, we're 13-2.

Nothing special

Classic Commander homer opinion. When's the last time you were 13-2? We'll wait for you to go look that one up.

 

[03EBZ06]

Most of you Cowboys fans don't seem to get it. Let me repeat it one more time: many of our key positions are already being played by backups and we're winning. Your team has been mostly healthy this season. So to me, Cowboys haven't done anything special.

No, you don't get it. Your Team is 8-7, just a mediocre team, struggling to make the playoffs. The Cowboys are 13-2, second best record in NFL, idiot.

 

[kojak]

Even if we do win this game. Wouldn't the Skins still make the playoffs if both the Vikings and the Saints lose as well?

 

[kmd24]

Now when the Cowboys are planning on resting some of their starters the Commanders are favored. Perhaps this is because the Boys and Skins will be on an even field?

No, it's because the Skins have something to play for and the Cowboys don't.

Also, it's pretty clear that the oddsmakers attach a lot of significance to Romo's absence, but not so much to Campbell's absence.

I personally think the moneyline for this game is out of whack. I would say that the spread is too, but I could see the Cowboys shutting things down if the Skins get up big in the second half.

 

[redster]

Mostly healthy? We've been without our #1 NT and #2 WR for basically the entire season. We've had our CBs hobbled with injuries all year, and they've played through it. We got our starting SOLB back full time midway through the season. Despite all that, we're 13-2.

Nothing special

Classic Commander homer opinion. When's the last time you were 13-2? We'll wait for you to go look that one up.

You still don't get it. Your injury situation is nothing compared to ours. You're Look below and respond. This team would be the best team in the NFC were we healthy this year, period. Our Oline has been struggling to create holes for the run game this year. Read below and you'll understand.

--Right tackle out(Jon Jansen)
--Right guard out (Randy Thomas)
--Our starting Center (Casey Rabach) missed a couple of games(the Green Bay game which we were owning till he went down) due to injury. His backup, Pucillo, is injured now.
--Pete Kendall has also been riddled with injuries.
-Jason Campbell out
--Carlos Rogers(starting CB) out
--Rocky Mcintosh(line backer) out
--Sean Taylor out(RIP)
--Marcus Washington(Line Backer) missed a few games
--Cornelius griffin has been hobbling as well
--Smoot has missed a few games
--Shawn Springs did not play that much early on in the season because of injury concerns. He's completely healthy.
--Antwaan Randle El has missed a few games because of injury
--Santana Moss has missed a few games because of injury


You're telling me that your injury situation is similar to ours?

 

[superpunk]

You still don't get it. Your injury situation is nothing compared to ours. You're Look below and respond. This team would be the best team in the NFC were we healthy this year, period. Our Oline has been struggling to create holes for the run game this year. Read below and you'll understand.

--Right tackle out(Jon Jansen)
--Right guard out (Randy Thomas)
--Our starting Center (Casey Rabach) missed a couple of games(the Green Bay game which we were owning till he went down) due to injury. His backup, Pucillo, is injured now.
--Pete Kendall has also been riddled with injuries.
-Jason Campbell out
--Carlos Rogers(starting CB) out
--Rocky Mcintosh(line backer) out
--Sean Taylor out(RIP)
--Marcus Washington(Line Backer) missed a few games
--Cornelius griffin has been hobbling as well
--Smoot has missed a few games
--Shawn Springs did not play that much early on in the season because of injury concerns. He's completely healthy.
--Antwaan Randle El has missed a few games because of injury
--Santana Moss has missed a few games because of injury


You're telling me that your injury situation is similar to ours?

So I guess what you're telling me is, if you could have had all those players that helped you to a 6-10 record last year healthy all season, the Skins would have been unstoppable.

Take your excuses to the dump, junior. The Skins are garbage. Heck - they had most of those players healthy back when they needed OVERTIME to beat the 1-14 Dolphins.

But, a miraculous three-game win streak and an 8-7 record and suddenly the ****** parade has new leadership.

 

[peplaw06]

You still don't get it. Your injury situation is nothing compared to ours. You're Look below and respond. This team would be the best team in the NFC were we healthy this year, period. Our Oline has been struggling to create holes for the run game this year. Read below and you'll understand.

Dumbest. Statement. Ever.

--Right tackle out(Jon Jansen)
--Right guard out (Randy Thomas)
--Our starting Center (Casey Rabach) missed a couple of games(the Green Bay game which we were owning till he went down) due to injury. His backup, Pucillo, is injured now.
--Pete Kendall has also been riddled with injuries.

Admittedly, we've been lucky on the OL, but our depth is better than yours anyway. That said, we've still got our starting C hobbled and our starting RT has been battling an ankle all December.

-Jason Campbell out

To most people, that's the reason you've played better in Dec. In other words, a blessing in disguise.

--Carlos Rogers(starting CB) out

TNew was out in Sep. and is hobbled now. Henry missed 5-6 games and is just now back to 100%

--Rocky Mcintosh(line backer) out

Recent injury. In fact, his loss also correlates with your 3 game winning streak like Campbell. Remember Ellis? I already mentioned him.

--Sean Taylor out(RIP)

Your biggest loss no doubt.

--Marcus Washington(Line Backer) missed a few games

A few games? boo friggin hoo.

--Cornelius griffin has been hobbling as well

Who? Remember Jason Ferguson? Yeah we lost him for the year back in September.

--Smoot has missed a few games
--Shawn Springs did not play that much early on in the season because of injury concerns. He's completely healthy.

See response to Rogers...

--Antwaan Randle El has missed a few games because of injury
--Santana Moss has missed a few games because of injury

Glenn's missed the entire season up to this week. And now TO's got a high ankle sprain.

About the only place you have any room to talk on injuries is along the OL. Actually the main difference is we've lost bigger contributors and better players for more time than you have, and are 5 games better in the standings.

Remember back in training camp, when prognosticators were trying to pick order of finish in the division? What was our main knock against your team? Depth.

Most NFL teams have to deal with significant injuries over the course of the season. The Commanders have, as have the Cowboys. We're 13-2, you're 8-7. End of story.

 

[30yrheel]

Everybody has injuries, it's FOOTBALL. Quit crying, god you foreskin fans are anoying.

 

[redster]

You guys are just pathetic. You list TNew missing a few games as being injured, but when I mention that Marcus Washington, arguably our best linebacker in terms of sacking the quarterback, missed a few games(probably about a month) due to injury, you don't wanna count that. Randle El has probably missed about 4 games as well. You don't wanna count that. Moss has missed at least 2 games. Obviously, you don't wanna count that. Our Secondary was giving up less than 200 yds passing when it was intact--that is when Carlos Rogers and Sean Taylor were both playing. You don't wanna count that. If you guys seriously belive that your injury situation can even be compared to ours, there's something wrong with you, period.

Our Oline, when healthy, is one of the best in the league. Even with injuries, Bugel has done a good job of coaching some of our backups. The rookie Heyer has been playing well for us.
Add to that the fact that Sean Taylor died. Guess what, we are still competitive. Are you guys suggesting that you have gone through what we've gone through this year?

 

[peplaw06]

You guys are just pathetic. You list TNew missing a few games as being injured, but when I mention that Marcus Washington, arguably our best linebacker in terms of sacking the quarterback, missed a few games(probably about a month) due to injury, you don't wanna count that. Randle El has probably missed about 4 games as well. You don't wanna count that. Moss has missed at least 2 games. Obviously, you don't wanna count that. Our Secondary was giving up less than 200 yds passing when it was intact--that is when Carlos Rogers and Sean Taylor were both playing. You don't wanna count that. If you guys seriously belive that your injury situation can even be compared to ours, there's something wrong with you, period.

OMG. I just went through a full comparison and "counted" all of those. You listed two WRs who missed a total of 6 games? We've had one who's missed 15, and TO who's missing this week. You have LBs who have missed a few games, we had one who missed just about as many games. You have CBs who have missed games, so have we. You just can't wrap your tiny brain around the fact that we've had guys who are for the most part BETTER players miss MORE games.

Our Oline, when healthy, is one of the best in the league. Even with injuries, Bugel has done a good job of coaching some of our backups. The rookie Heyer has been playing well for us.

And I admitted we've been lucky along the OL. Your OL when healthy is nowhere near as good as ours. Would you have had 3 pro-bowlers if they were all healthy?

Add to that the fact that Sean Taylor died.

And I said that was probably your biggest loss.

Guess what, we are still competitive. Are you guys suggesting that you have gone through what we've gone through this year?

As far as injuries are concerned... YES!!! Losing a teammate to murder? No we haven't had that happen. But it's actually ended up rallying your team. You're better since that happened. Still not Cowboys good, but better than you were because you're playing on emotion.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I listened to the media conference calls last night, and it was hilarious. The Skins reporters were almost begging Wade to rest guys. "Wade, will you play all your starters?" "Wade, will you sit the guys who are questionable on the injury report?" "Greg (Ellis), do you want to play the whole game?" "Do you feel any obligation to the Saints and Vikings to play your best?"

It's so funny. You can tell they're hoping we don't bring all our ammo to the fight. Which strikes me as funny for a city that loves to chant "We Want Dallas".

 

[redster]

OMG. I just went through a full comparison and "counted" all of those. You listed two WRs who missed a total of 6 games? We've had one who's missed 15, and TO who's missing this week. You have LBs who have missed a few games, we had one who missed just about as many games. You have CBs who have missed games, so have we. You just can't wrap your tiny brain around the fact that we've had guys who are for the most part BETTER players miss MORE games.

When your starting receivers go down, you'll always have a hard time. For example, last week against Carolina, I doubt Romo scored even one touchdown once TO your #1 receiver went down. Moss has been injured most of the season. He's healthy now. So how can you not take into account the fact that our WR's missed a few games or were injured early on in the season? Your CB has not been placed on injured reserve. Your free safety has been playing all season long . Your CB's may not be healthy, but they're not out for the season like ours, now are they? So how can you compare your situation to ours?

And I admitted we've been lucky along the OL. Your OL when healthy is nowhere near as good as ours. Would you have had 3 pro-bowlers if they were all healthy?

Our Oline is arguably the best in the league when our players are healthy. Casey Rabach has been the most underrated center in the league. Chris Samuels has been to the probowl. Jon Jansen has been to the probowl. While your right guard, Leonard Davis, has played well this season and going to the probowl, I would say that Randy Thomas is better. Randy Thomas is probably the best right guard in the NFC. Our Oline gave up 19 sacks last season. Your Oline has given up 23 this season. Not just that, the Commanders Oline also allowed Betts to rush for 100+ yards 5 times in a row. When it comes to rushing, the Commanders Oline is one of the best league in the league.

Okay, let me know one thing: how many of your starters are out for the season? I can name at least 5 or 6 in our case.

What I'm saying is that, you guys have been lucky when it comes to injury this season. We have lost a right guard, a right tackle, a CB, a free safety, a LB for the season.

 

[superpunk]

We're gonna be owned, no doubt about it. Our over the hill coaches are just too conservative. Defense sucks. Offense sucks. QB sucks. Formula for failure.

Before the first game with Dallas.

A month and a half later, if they had a healthy roster, they'd be the best team in the NFC. The weak-minded amuse me.

Even a monkey as a quarterback could score 40 points against the putrid Giants defense.

This before Campbell dropped 17 and completed 47% of his passes against them.

Guess what, Campbell was playing excellent in the final game against the giants as well last year. Sure, we lost,and he threw one interception, but he threw for 200+ yards. We were very close to winning. Beating the putrid Giants defense is nothing to brag about. From what I can see, Romo throws short to medium passes. His deep passes are extremely inaccurate. Hell, he doesn't even have the arm to throw deep passes. The reason Romo struggled late last year was because people realized what he could do and couldn't do. If Romo scores, say, 30 points against Miami, I *may* be impressed.

Romo can't throw the deep ball and your basis for evaluation was Miami...we learn more about the validity of your analysis.

Personally, I don't think Romo is that good a quarterback, but that's just my view. He's a choker as well, like that Seattle game.

You are genius. Forgive us if we don't give much credence to your ridiculous "what if" scenario.

 

[zeromaster]

You guys are just pathetic. You list TNew missing a few games as being injured, but when I mention that Marcus Washington, arguably our best linebacker in terms of sacking the quarterback, missed a few games(probably about a month) due to injury, you don't wanna count that. Randle El has probably missed about 4 games as well. You don't wanna count that. Moss has missed at least 2 games. Obviously, you don't wanna count that. Our Secondary was giving up less than 200 yds passing when it was intact--that is when Carlos Rogers and Sean Taylor were both playing. You don't wanna count that. If you guys seriously belive that your injury situation can even be compared to ours, there's something wrong with you, period.

Our Oline, when healthy, is one of the best in the league. Even with injuries, Bugel has done a good job of coaching some of our backups. The rookie Heyer has been playing well for us.
Add to that the fact that Sean Taylor died. Guess what, we are still competitive. Are you guys suggesting that you have gone through what we've gone through this year?

What's pathetic is the way the Skins' fans keep believing they're only a player away from greatness. When that's not enough, blame injuries. The worst thing that could happen to you guys is a late-season win streak, because once again it seems like the same spin gets trotted out.

The trend is clear; it's a team of underacheivers, with not much vision on how to build long-term. Top that with a megalomaniac like Snyder, and your fate is sealed for several more seasons.

But you can dream if you want to. There's no law against it. The Skins will have most of the offseason to forget how they got to this point, and one or two FA signings to load down the payroll with a couple more head-scratchers.

 

[redster]

Just list the players who are out for the season. Here is ours:
1. Randy Thomas(that's like losing Leonard Davis)
2. Jon Jansen(that's like losing your starting right tackle, whatever his name is)
3. Carlos Rogers(that's like losing Anthony Henry for the WHOLE season, not a few games. I would say that Rogers is our #1 CB, not Shawn Springs, so the comparison should be to Newman)
4. Sean Taylor(that's like losing Hamlin)
5. Rocky Mcintosh(that's like losing one of your starting line backers, who I'm not familiar with)

And I'm not counting Jason Campbell.

Unless you're smoking something, there is no way you can conclude that your injury situation can even compare to ours. NO WAY!

Your team has been very lucky this year. If you don't win the superbowl this year, your luck may run out next year.

 

[peplaw06]

When your starting receivers go down, you'll always have a hard time. For example, last week against Carolina, I doubt Romo scored even one touchdown once TO your #1 receiver went down. Moss has been injured most of the season. He's healthy now. So how can you not take into account the fact that our WR's missed a few games or were injured early on in the season?

I just DID. Are you purposely being dense, or does it just come instinctually? Your WRs have missed 6 games... ours 16

Your CB has not been placed on injured reserve. Your free safety has been playing all season long.

Has your DT been placed on IR? If we didn't have the great depth we have, we probably would have been forced to place Glenn on IR as well.

Your CB's may not be healthy, but they're not out for the season like ours, now are they? So how can you compare your situation to ours?

So because you have one guy who played 8 games and is now out for the season, that's automatically more severe than our guys missing 10+ games?

Our Oline is arguably the best in the league when our players are healthy.

Sure you could argue it, but you'd lose convincingly.

Casey Rabach has been the most underrated center in the league. Chris Samuels has been to the probowl. Jon Jansen has been to the probowl.

Of course you're gonna think your OLmen are underrated.

While your right guard, Leonard Davis, has played well this season and going to the probowl, I would say that Randy Thomas is better. Randy Thomas is probably the best right guard in the NFC.

And you would be wrong. Look, it's all a matter of opinion. But I've already told you that we've been lucky on the OL. Yet you continue to beat your head against the wall. Your OL if healthy would NOT have sent 3 guys to the pro bowl this season. And it would not have made you 13-2.

Okay, let me know one thing: how many of your starters are out for the season? I can name at least 5 or 6 in our case.

Out for the season has no bearing on this conversation. Both teams have dealt with significant injuries and lost a lot of games played because of it. We have guys out for the year. We have guys who would have been placed on IR if we had needed the roster spot.

What I'm saying is that, you guys have been lucky when it comes to injury this season. We have lost a right guard, a right tackle, a CB, a free safety, a LB for the season.

What I'm saying is everyone goes through these things. You're discounting all the games our guys have missed and accusing us of doing the same to you. What separates most teams in the NFL is what they do when guys get injured. Our depth is better than yours, plain and simple. And we're 5 games better.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Without quoting any one particular post where a Skins fan made himself look like a fool or one of our guys took them to the woodshed, all I can say is

@ Skins fans.

I've never seen a more delusional bunch in my life. Not even close.

And no matter how many times you see it, it still amazes you.

 

[03EBZ06]

Where were all these deadskins fans three weeks ago when they were 5-7?

Funny to see these roaches crawling out from woodwork just because they won few games and has a chance at making into playoff.

 

[bbgun]

I've never seen a more delusional bunch in my life.

Ever see me "flex" in front of a mirror? Now that's delusional.