ZONERS: ROMO is the best QB in Cowboys history

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I remember watching Dan Marino as a young QB and thinking, this guy might be the greatest QB ever........



Sorry, no.
 

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Anybody that says they aren't getting "that special feeling" when watching Romo play the game is either in denial or is too scared to step out on the limb or else has had thier heart broken by the Carter/Chutch/Henson love triangle.

He's not the stongest arm. He's not the fastest runner. He's not a physical specimen.

What he does have is smarts, leadership, and a true love of the game that is visible and real. That kind of stuff is what inspires teams to give that little extra bit....and that's what wins Super Bowls.

I don't hope for......I EXPECT to win a Super Bowl with Romo at the helm.

Romo has "IT". We all know it. We all see it.

Don't be afraid to jump in the deep end. We won't let you drown, ya sissies.
 

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STSINAZ;1636493 said:
aikman is the best,,,

Having seen both most every game of careers, and both in person. I disagree some in that Staubach was a magical QB that just made things happen and elevated all around him. Maybe the most clutch QB Ever. He was money in 4th quarter.

I have him ahead of Aikman who also was great but fact is once team kinda fell apart 1997-2000 showed he couldn't carry a team.

Rodger the Dodger was something special.

1A Staubach
1B Aikman


It's like arguing who is better today, Manning or Brady.
Both are great
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1636457 said:
I remember watching Dan Marino as a young QB and thinking, this guy might be the greatest QB ever........

Sorry, no.

Marino could play.....but anybody that has seen this guy in a social setting knows that he's not a genuinely likeable person.

If you aren't liked, you aren't respected.

If you aren't respected, people aren't gonna lay it all on the line for you.

That's the difference between Romo and Marino......and that's one reason why I think Romo will go where Marino never did.
 

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sonnyboy;1635020 said:
Not trying to be a smart ***, I know we're all on the same side.

But I cant help but ask what you thought of the ZIP on Romo's last, game clinching pass.

I look at that last pass and I cant decide if I'm more impressed with Romo's quick release, the short amount of time it took to reach its target or the pinpoint accuracy of the damn thing.

I agree with you, and the one TD pass to witten was really zipped in there too...I give him credit for those. I simply said that some of his passes looked really weak and were floating in the first half, like he was throwing with too much arm and no legs.

As for this post, I love Romo, but he has yet to match Troy Aikman, Roger Staubach, Don Meredith, or even Danny White in my eyes. Danny White never won the big one, but he was the best pure passer I ever saw in Dallas.
 

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Jay-D;1636508 said:
Anybody that says they aren't getting "that special feeling" when watching Romo play the game is either in denial or is too scared to step out on the limb or else has had thier heart broken by the Carter/Chutch/Henson love triangle.

He's not the stongest arm. He's not the fastest runner. He's not a physical specimen.

What he does have is smarts, leadership, and a true love of the game that is visible and real. That kind of stuff is what inspires teams to give that little extra bit....and that's what wins Super Bowls.

I don't hope for......I EXPECT to win a Super Bowl with Romo at the helm.

Romo has "IT". We all know it. We all see it.

Don't be afraid to jump in the deep end. We won't let you drown, ya sissies.


Its not fair to mention Henson, QC, Hutchinson in same breath as Romo. Romo has already made Pro Bowl and lit up the Giants first game in 2007.

Romo's arm is damn strong. He just chooses when to gun it or when to just get it to receiver in stride. Romo makes fast and correct reads and gets the ball out to receivers accurately mostly.

He can also buy time and throw on the run. All stuff he has shown in preseason for years. Now he's doing it on Sundays in the regular season.

Tony Romo is such a feel good story. If he can take this team over the top he has Namath like appeal.....
 

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dargarin;1635108 said:
I think he'll be better than Aikman but I don't know about Staubach. Aikman's arm was a rocket but I wasn't impressed by his accuracy or consistency.

Worse post of the year nominee. :bang2:
 

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Nors;1636277 said:
My world was crushed circa 1972 when my dad broke it to me. His name was not Roger Starback.
:laugh2: That's what I thought it was when I was a kid too.
 

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Nors;1636593 said:
Tony Romo is such a feel good story. If he can take this team over the top he has Namath like appeal.....

I totally agree........especially in this day and age of overexposure.

None of the Tom Bradys or Peyton Mannings have the "real" personality that Romo has.....and none of them are the QB of America's Team.
 

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There were times yesterday while watching the game that I couldn't believe this guy (Romo) was on our team. At times, when he would drop back and fire the ball 25 yards down the field, it was just beautiful.

Just the way he throws the ball is beautiful, and he doesn't throw spirals all the time, just his quick release and his zip. I loved me some Staubach, and I thought Aikman was a very accurate gunner armed QB but I loved Staubach and Danny White.

I think that if Romo continues to stay just the way he was yesterday, he could possibly be talked about as one of the greatest, but it will have to be long term and not just a few games.
 

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Clove;1636606 said:
:laugh2: That's what I thought it was when I was a kid too.

I was hooked as a 6-7 year old watching that 1971/72 circa era playoff comeback win against San Fran. That was just an epic win. Rabbit ears on the 2nd TV as rest of family was watching something else on the "main" tv.
 

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Nors;1636297 said:
Bingo - Aikman flat out might have been the most accurate passer I ever saw.

I agree, he had the best touch and threw a great spiral.


Nors;1636297 said:
The knock on him if any, was he threw a bad deep ball.

Even if true it was still better than 95% of any pro quarterbacks I have seen. I like Romo but I would take Roger or Troy in there prime over Romo any day.
 

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Nors;1636593 said:
Its not fair to mention Henson, QC, Hutchinson in same breath as Romo. Romo has already made Pro Bowl and lit up the Giants first game in 2007.

Romo's arm is damn strong. He just chooses when to gun it or when to just get it to receiver in stride. Romo makes fast and correct reads and gets the ball out to receivers accurately mostly.

He can also buy time and throw on the run. All stuff he has shown in preseason for years. Now he's doing it on Sundays in the regular season.

Tony Romo is such a feel good story. If he can take this team over the top he has Namath like appeal.....

Wow. What a complete 180 from what you were saying last year, Nors.

You were quite emphatic while telling us all what a bum Romo was, and that we'd regret benching Bledsoe.
 

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Remember -

Roger always threw a lil wobbler. Not a tight spiral QB.

See Montana, Brady as examples of guys that just get the ball to open receiver in stride. That sometimes is priceless. And in many regards biggest knock on a Bledsoe who had a cannon but was always gunslinging deep and had no finess on the short stuff.

Tony has a ways to go but he win's a Super Bowl here - he's a mega STAR.
 

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NoDak Cowboy;1636640 said:
Wow. What a complete 180 from what you were saying last year, Nors.

You were quite emphatic while telling us all what a bum Romo was, and that we'd regret benching Bledsoe.

I was initially distraught at Bledsoe benching and in my heart of hearts felt Bledsoe would have won 9 games like Romo did. Bledsoe won 9 in 2005 too.

But Romo has stepped up. I always loved his game, just thought Bledsoe would hold him off longer. I was wrong, Romo stumbled late last year but came back strong yesterday.

Romo just has it -
 

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My opinion:

Romo is a mixture of Aikman and Staubach in my eyes. He has the mobility and escapability of Roger and he has some of Aikman's accuracy.

That's not saying he's better or even as good as either at this point, but he could be eventually.

He has that leadership gene that Aikman seemed to not have. I know I'll catch a lot of flak for this but Aikman wasn't that great of a leader. He was stoic and demanded the best from his teammates... but he didn't lead like Romo does. He didn't have the moxie and confidence that Romo exudes in the huddle. Romo is more like Favre in that way... he just has a blast out there on the field and his teammates really believe that as long as time is left on the clock, Romo can win it for them... as long as they do their part.

Romo is loved by all his teammates... both on offense and defense. Heck, TO is his biggest fan and that is saying a lot because of his jealousy when they get the spotlight for his TD catches. He cant help but love Tony, though. What's not to love? Romo is approachable and a terrific teammate. Aikman wasn't approachable and many of his teammates didn't really even know him.

As far as physical ability, Aikman had more, except in the mobility and escapability department. His arm was better than Romo's is... but not a whole lot. If the play broke down though... that was it for Aikman. It was take a sack or throw it away and come back for the next play. With Romo, he can make things happen once the play breaks down. Some of his best plays happen once things break down. Now some of his mistakes happen then too... but he's learning to take the sack or throw it away if simply nothing is there. Still, a lot of the time he's creating something out of nothing... a thing that Aikman almost never did.

Aikman was a little more accurate, but one thing that Romo does better than Aikman IMO is throw the deep ball. As accurate as Troy was, he would miss the deep throw most of the time. Tony will hit it a little more than Aikman did.

Give Aikman the edge in accuracy but Romo's ability to make something out of nothing, his better deep ball and his uncanny ability to lead the team and you have a guy who could end up eclipsing Aikman in more ways than in the record book.

Roger could move and escape the rush just like Romo. He could make something out of nothing just like Tony. His arm strength was similar to Romo's. In fact, I'd say that Tony is more like Roger than like Aikman in both physical ability and the way they play(ed). Tony does have a quicker release, which is vital in today's NFL. Roger also had the team in the palm of his hands just like Tony does and like Aikman never quite did.

However, Romo has that riverboat gambler, rugged Cowboy persona (like Favre) that Roger didn't have. A little bit of a mischevious glint in his eye and a love for playing QB that I've only seen out of Favre and maybe Marino. Marino was uber-competitive and so is Tony. Romo just glows after a win and you can see the pain in his eyes after a loss.

Roger was the best Cowboy QB of all time, IMO. He was the leader that Troy couldn't be and he could make things happen on his own. In other words... Roger could pick the team up on his shoulders and take them to a win. Will them to a win. That's something that Troy just couldn't do. He was perfect for the well oiled machine that was the early 90's Cowboys... but when the talent started going or when other's had bad days... he just couldn't do enough to pull out the win. He almost did it in the 1994 NFC Championship game against the 9'ers... but he didn't quite do it. That was as close as he got, IMO.

Roger could lift the whole team and take them there. Tony Romo can do that too, IMO. Like I said, I know I'll get lambasted for this but it's the way I feel.

Right now I'd put Roger at #1, Aikman at #2 and Romo at #3. However, with continued play like we've seen so far and a couple of world championships... a mature Tony Romo seriously could push both Roger and Troy down to #'s 2 and 3, respectively.

Romo hasn't done it yet... but that young kid is well on his way to becoming one of the best ever. Just watch. He's got that something that makes the great one's, Hall of Famers.

I don't think this because of last night's game either... I've been thinking this since last year. He's got something special and he's going to do a few things:

1. Re-write the Dallas recordbooks... maybe some NFL records as well.
2. Break the bank when Jerry finally signs him.
3. Win some championships
4. Change the way teams look for QB's. Not that they'll look at late rounders... but they'll look very hard at leadership (moxie, if you will), toughness, pocket presence, the ability to improvise and look less at arm strength and other measurables.
5. Become a major media darling and get oodles of endorsement deals because he's got the perfect personality for that.
6. Make CrazyCowboy look brilliant!

I know, I know... go ahead and hit me with it. Knee jerk... koolaid drinker... Romosexual... whatever. Hit me with it, but it won't change the fact that I see things unfolding exactly like I just wrote.

In celebration of Nors... "bring it" :D
 

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Nors;1636628 said:
I was hooked as a 6-7 year old watching that 1971/72 circa era playoff comeback win against San Fran. That was just an epic win. Rabbit ears on the 2nd TV as rest of family was watching something else on the "main" tv.
I was 7 when the boys beat Denver in the super bowl, the highlight of my young child life.
 

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NoDak Cowboy;1636640 said:
Wow. What a complete 180 from what you were saying last year, Nors.

You were quite emphatic while telling us all what a bum Romo was, and that we'd regret benching Bledsoe.


It's amazing what a terrific performance like last night can do to a fan... oh, and a little thing called a "ban", can change peoples thoughts as well. :p:
 
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