Commanders Vs. The East...

[cowboywho?]

Shocking. A Commander's fan inflating his own teams' offseason moves while deflating all other team's moves in the division. I guess everything is static outside their own world.

Why should we respect your offseason moves whenyou dont respect ours?
All i hear are cowboys fan talking about how we overpay players.
So what we pay them more then the average WR? If we're under thecap does it matter?

 

[cowboywho?]

Oh yeah, what was that, your second win in 17 games?

That was a miracle that Dallas handed you on a silver platter, it wont happen again

But it did! Remember the second game? you forget so quick.

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

First of all, Mike Zimmer is our defensive coordinator and Chris Palmer is our offensive coordinator. Pretty much discredits this post right there.

Dallas had a very good draft, we addressed our needs at OLB and FS. We drafted an OLB that is far superior to the one Washington picked a round too early.

Dallas already had more talent than Washington last year, even a good deal of fans at ES admitted to this (THAT'S saying something). We did not need to improve as much as Washington did. Dallas is a younger, faster, more athletic team with much more room to grow, especially on defense. Washington really doesnt scare me, not nearly as much as New York anyway.

You simpleton

Since when is Al Saunders calling plays against Chris Palmer? When is Gregg Williams defending what Mike Zimmer is doing? Pretty much discredits your entire post

Its why you do not say Owens, Glenn vs Moss ARE, Lloyd. They never face each other on the field!

The matchup is Al Saunders vs Mike Zimmer. I take Saunders in this matchup

The matchup is Chris Palmer vs Gregg Williams. I take GW in this matchup

And you are a younger team? Haven't we gone over this silly debate before? You have your young guys in certain spots (d-line, lb) while we have ours in other spots (RB, WR, DB,) and both teams have certain vets

 

[The30YardSlant]

Its quite simple

Our moves addressed a significant weakness. No other option in the passing game

Can you honeslty say your moves improved your o-line?

(And to be fair, there is no your o-line can be any worse. Philip Daniels with 4 sacks? )

Can you honestly say you improved your D-Line? Hate to break it to you, but Andre carter will get dominated by OT, just like he did in SF. Andre Carter had all but two of his sacks so far in his career from the standing up edge rushing position.

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

Oh yeah, what was that, your second win in 17 games?

That was a miracle that Dallas handed you on a silver platter, it wont happen again

35-7 ring a bell a few months later? Yeah I guess it won't happen again

Another discredited post

 

[SultanOfSix]

Its quite simple

Our moves addressed a significant weakness. No other option in the passing game

Can you honeslty say your moves improved your o-line?

(And to be fair, there is no your o-line can be any worse. Philip Daniels with 4 sacks? )

You guys have no idea what shape our offensive line is in. All you see is Torrin Tucker, and a rookie right guard named Petiti, and think somehow nothing has changed. I remember a Commander's fan ridiculing Kosier on this very forum about his ability to protect Bledsoe, and he wasn't even on the team last year.

You're moves ALWAYS address significant weaknesses in the offseason. As a matter of fact, everything you guys do somehow betters the team in the offseason. Fortunately, or unfortunately, depending upon who's perspective you are looking from, none of it has translated anywhere in the actual season.

 

[cowboywho?]

Dallas already had more talent than Washington last year, even a good deal of fans at ES admitted to this (THAT'S saying something). We did not need to improve as much as Washington did. Dallas is a younger, faster, more athletic team with much more room to grow, especially on defense. Washington really doesnt scare me, not nearly as much as New York anyway.

Amazing you guys had more talent but failed to make the playoff.
Not living up to your talent is like not having talent at all. I'd rather have average players playing at 100percent then Very good players playing at 50 percent.

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

Amazing you guys had more talent but failed to make the playoff.
Not living up to your talent is like not having talent at all. I'd rather have average players playing at 100percent then Very good players playing at 50 percent.

Charles Mann put it best when Gibbs came back

The talent level will go down, but the wins will go up

Lose Coles, Smoot and Pierce in one offseason? Simple, improve by 4 games

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

Can you honestly say you improved your D-Line? Hate to break it to you, but Andre carter will get dominated by OT, just like he did in SF. Andre Carter had all but two of his sacks so far in his career from the standing up edge rushing position.

So you watched every single sack of Andre Carter's 5 year career so far?

Somehow, I find that very hard to believe

Come on man, step it up I like Aggies

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

You guys have no idea what shape our offensive line is in. All you see is Torrin Tucker, and a rookie right guard named Petiti, and think somehow nothing has changed. I remember a Commander's fan ridiculing Kosier on this very forum about his ability to protect Bledsoe, and he wasn't even on the team last year.

You're moves ALWAYS address significant weaknesses in the offseason. As a matter of fact, everything you guys do somehow betters the team in the offseason. Fortunately, or unfortunately, depending upon who's perspective you are looking from, none of it has translated anywhere in the actual season.

I remember this place ripping the Commanders for the Coles-Moss deal

Ripping for the Champ-Portis deal

Looks like those moves got us a playoff WIN in year 2 of the Gibbs era. Where was Dallas in year 2 of Parcells? Year 3?

 

[The30YardSlant]

You simpleton

Since when is Al Saunders calling plays against Chris Palmer? When is Gregg Williams defending what Mike Zimmer is doing? Pretty much discredits your entire post

Yes, because comparing offensive coordinators to defensive coordinators makes perfect sense

The D.C. school system shining through. Perhaps you kids up there should spend less time shooting each other and more time practicing your reading comprehension skills, eh?

The matchup is Al Saunders vs Mike Zimmer. I take Saunders in this matchup

Not that Zimmer has averaged a top 10 defense over his career or anything

Only the Commanders would call signing a coordinator the biggest move of the offseason. The man wont play a down, I worry about him about as much as I worry about the transgendered cross dresser sitting in the 3rd row at FedEx.

The matchup is Chris Palmer vs Gregg Williams. I take GW in this matchup

If you really think Chris Palmer is the one calling the plays, then you need to check yourself into a psyche ward. Immediatly.

And you are a younger team? Haven't we gone over this silly debate before? You have your young guys in certain spots (d-line, lb) while we have ours in other spots (RB, WR, DB,) and both teams have certain vets

Dallas average defensive starter age: 26

Washington averaged defensive starter age: 28

Dallas average total starter age: 28

Washington average total starter age: 29.5

26 < 28

28 < 29.5

Again, that top notch education is just dominating this thread.

 

[The30YardSlant]

So you watched every single sack of Andre Carter's 5 year career so far?

Somehow, I find that very hard to believe

Come on man, step it up I like Aggies

No, however Dennis Georgatos, the SF 49ers beat writer and man whom this stat is attributed to, did. Called in on ESPN radio when Washington signed Carter, basically saying they overpaid and that Carter will be wasted playing DE.

 

[The30YardSlant]

35-7 ring a bell a few months later? Yeah I guess it won't happen again

Another discredited post

Dallas handed you a miracle on a silver platter in that game?

Reading comprehension. Learn it, live it, love it

 

[The30YardSlant]

Amazing you guys had more talent but failed to make the playoff.
Not living up to your talent is like not having talent at all. I'd rather have average players playing at 100percent then Very good players playing at 50 percent.

If Dallas doesnt give washington that miracle in September, their roles are reversed, and Dallas is beating Tampa Bay in round 1. It's not like Washington was clearly the better team

 

[SultanOfSix]

I remember this place ripping the Commanders for the Coles-Moss deal

Ripping for the Champ-Portis deal

Looks like those moves got us a playoff WIN in year 2 of the Gibbs era. Where was Dallas in year 2 of Parcells? Year 3?

You remember what you only want to see. No "place" rips another team's offseason moves. Some people give credit when its due. Others don't. Others could care less what your team does.

Parcells made the playoffs his first year here with QC as the the quarterback. And we barely missed the playoffs last year because of (predominantly) bad field goal kicking and injuries, while your team had no significant injuries whatsoever. You make it sound like the 'Skins are so far ahead because they won a playoff game last year. Whoop di doo.

 

[gbrittain]

You can call me crazy, and can laugh at this post in 7 months. But BARRING MAJOR INJURIES, I absolutley do expect a 4th Lombardi trophy in Washington in February. With the returning talent, returning coaching staff and the offseason additions made, this is the year to do it and get the job done

Wait a minute...

Crazy!:

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

Yes, because comparing offensive coordinators to defensive coordinators makes perfect sense




Not that Zimmer has averaged a top 10 defense over his career or anything

Only the Commanders would call signing a coordinator the biggest move of the offseason. The man wont play a down, I worry about him about as much as I worry about the transgendered cross dresser sitting in the 3rd row at FedEx.



If you really think Chris Palmer is the one calling the plays, then you need to check yourself into a psyche ward. Immediatly.



Dallas average defensive starter age: 26

Washington averaged defensive starter age: 28

Dallas average total starter age: 28

Washington average total starter age: 29.5

26 < 28

28 < 29.5

Again, that top notch education is just dominating this thread.

Yeah, a whole year and a half. And once Campbell steps in then what? Once McIntosh replaces Holdman then what? And once Rogers replaces Harris then what?

That argument is weak

Pretty simple on the coordinators my friend. The reason you compare an OC to the DC he faces is because that is the matchup in the game

Just like comparing WR vs WR is silly because they never face each other

Who is calling Dallas' plays? Parcells? Well then I like that matcup better of GW vs Parcells

As for calling it the biggest offseason move, its simple. Coaching matters. Look at the difference between the Commanders of 2003 and 2005. Coaching matters in the NFL

You see, if you had played football my Aggie friend you would realize its a chess match between coaches. Gregg Williams is not competing against Mike Zimmer in this game. Al Saunders is


That is why my matchup is relevant here, and yours quite honestly make no sense

Step it up my Aggie friend, you guys are much better then this

 

[The30YardSlant]

I played football from the time I was 6 years old through HS, and I never once heard anyone compare an offensive coordinator to a defensive coordinator.

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

I played football from the time I was 6 years old through HS, and I never once heard anyone compare an offensive coordinator to a defensive coordinator.

Because it makes so much sense to compare yourself to someone you will not face right?

Logically, THINK ABOUT IT here buddy

Who is reacting to whose moves? Is Gregg Williams making adjustments based on what Mike Zimmer is doing?

Is Al Saunders making adjustments based on what Chris Palmer or whoever your little o-coordinator is doing?

NO

Gregg Williams will make adjustments based on what he sees your OFFENSIVE coordinator doing

Al Saunders will adjust to what Mike Zimmer is doing

Think about it just for a second here, you go to too fine of an instiution not to understand this

 

[DragonCowboy]

Well, after Week 2, everyone can rejoice, because all these cockroaches will be gone!