Dez getting in fights misguided leadership? Another Dez thread **merged**

[KJJ]

Very aware thank you for asking. And I'm sure you're aware that people often will attend such classes to avoid punishment or as punishment from the courts.

Dez started his anger management classes at the behest of his agent and his advisors at that time, prior to reaching an agreement with the DA's office.

He did attend anger management to get a misdemeanor charge dropped due to an incident with his mom but he clearly has anger issues which led to that incident.

 

[KJJ]

It's happened multiple times to me. But it's unfair to ask me that question.

However your reasoning is the same reasoning I've heard from Police Officers who are involved with questionable shootings.

Back to Irvin.

Irvin tried to bully McIver. When he realized he was messing with the wrong man, In his own words Irvin wasn't scared, he didn't panic. He lost his mind. All over a hair cut.

"In a final blow to harmony, McIver cocked his right fist and popped Irvin in the mouth. "I just lost it," said Irvin. "I mean, my head, I lost it." Irvin grabbed a pair of scissors, whipped back his right arm and slashed McIver across the neck."



Taken from Jeff Pearlman's

Boys Will Be Boys: The Glory Days and Party Nights of the Dallas Cowboys Dynasty.

You don't care to provide an answer so your excuse is it's an unfair question.? When it happened to you multiple times how did you handle it? I mentioned Irvin was either pissed off by the punch or he felt threatened and obviously he was pissed off and lost it. Lucky for him it didn't turn into a tragedy and he didn't spend years in jail. Irvin's issues weren't a result of his temper. Dez has had problems with his temper that led to an incident with his mom forcing him to have to undergo anger management.

 

[Plumfool]

He did attend anger management to get a misdemeanor charge dropped due to an incident with his mom but he clearly has anger issues which led to that incident.

That's pure speculation. There's no evidence to support Dez having anger issues prior to the incident mentioned above.

 

[Proximo]

Really, that is ok though. This is a place for opinions, your's included. But don't act coy like you are "just asking a question". What you're doing is putting out several sentences voicing a strong opinion that a vast majority of Cowboyszone will likely disagree with. Anyone would realize that the responses will be numerous and contrary to your thoughts on the subject.

All that is why in my first post in this thread I'm saying that you're either looking for an argument at best, or simply trolling, at worst. As I said in that post, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say that it is just you looking for an argument. That you're just wanting a lot of responses. If you just wanted to read other people's opinion on the matter, there were plenty of posts on the subject in the fan zone without you having to start another thread on it.

No, IMO I think you want the discord. You want the responses and the attention that a subject like this will bring. You want the chances to argue about it.

The above really nails what's going on here.

 

[Plumfool]

You don't care to provide an answer so your excuse is it's an unfair question.? When it happened to you multiple times how did you handle it? I mentioned Irvin was either pissed off by the punch or he felt threatened and obviously he was pissed off and lost it. Lucky for him it didn't turn into a tragedy and he didn't spend years in jail. Irvin's issues weren't a result of his temper. Dez has had problems with his temper that led to an incident with his mom forcing him to have to undergo anger management.

It's unfair because I've been trained to handle such situations. My temperament shouldn't be gauged against someone who hasn't been trained.

 

[casmith07]

Is getting old at this point. We all love his fired up attitude, but he needs to be more of a leader on this team. How about showing restraint instead of getting in a punching match every week? What are you teaching the younger guys come game day? His lack of control of his emotions may cost us on game day. He is sending the wrong message in my opinion.

Don't wring all of the skin off of your hands, champ.

 

[Jenky]

We need to sign Dez Bryant Jr. ASAP!

 

[KJJ]

That's pure speculation. There's no evidence to support Dez having anger issues prior to the incident mentioned above.

I never said he had anger issues prior to that incident.

 

[KJJ]

It's unfair because I've been trained to handle such situations. My temperament shouldn't be gauged against someone who hasn't been trained.

You're the one who brought it up so you should at least provide an explanation of what you've been through. You're just skirting the question.

 

[Plumfool]

You're the one who brought it up so you should at least provide an explanation of what you've been through. You're just skirting the question.

I don't know if you have reading comprehension issues, or are purposely obtuse. The question was answered. Having been trained to handle the situation you laid out isn't a fair question because it goes with the job I have currently and previous ones as well.

 

[KJJ]

I don't know if you have reading comprehension issues, or are purposely obtuse. The question was answered. Having been trained to handle the situation you laid out isn't a fair question because it goes with the job I have currently and previous ones as well.

I have no issues with reading comprehension you refuse to be specific and answer the questions. You claimed it happened multiple times to you and when I asked how did you handle it you said it's an unfair question because you've been trained to handle such situations. If you're going to act like you're some sort of authority at least provide what type of training you've been through and what kind of job you have instead of continuing to skirt around the questions.

 

[KJJ]

One guy is claiming I'm bagging on Dez and another is spinning my comments on him are anti-Cowboys. LOL Someone explain to me how being concerned about Dez breaking a hand in a fight or being tossed from a game for throwing a punch is bagging on him or anti-Cowboys? This is just typical of the type of agenda I have to deal with.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

So why can't KJJ and CowboyRoy make their argument without calling people dopes, losers and stalkers? Isn't it odd that these poor oppressed souls are the only one's doing so? Kind of ironic that those so quick to classify someone as immature are the only culprits of that harbinger of immaturity in this thread.

 

[Plumfool]

I have no issues with reading comprehension you refuse to be specific and answer the questions. You claimed it happened multiple times to you and when I asked how did you handle it you said it's an unfair question because you've been trained to handle such situations. If you're going to act like you're some sort of authority at least provide what type of training you've been through and what kind of job you have instead of continuing to skirt around the questions.

So it's obtuse.

 

[KJJ]

So it's obtuse.

No, it's you being evasive.

 

[blindzebra]

So why can't KJJ and CowboyRoy make their argument without calling people dopes, losers and stalkers? Isn't it odd that these poor oppressed souls are the only one's doing so? Kind of ironic that those so quick to classify someone as immature are the only culprits of that harbinger of immaturity in this thread.

They aren't Cowboy fans, they are trolls.

 

[Primetime42]

By the way, Irvin did have on-field incidents. I'm ashamed I forgot about this.
I should be forgiven, because James Washington's the one who truly stole the show here.

 

[KJJ]

By the way, Irvin did have on-field incidents. I'm ashamed I forgot about this.
I should be forgiven, because James Washington's the one who truly stole the show here.

Hard to find a player in the league who hasn't had some incident with another player on the field. I don't remember how that got started but the entire team was in the middle of it. The league was a lot more tolerant back then. Like I said I love Dez as a player he's very passionate and I wanted him to get paid but he does use the word "passion" as a cover for every angry, frustrated outburst. Never once have I heard him admit his emotions may have got the better of him in a situation. He's clearly in denial about his temper.

When he stormed off the field towards the locker room 2 years ago vs the Packers with over a minute to play in the Cowboys one point loss he refused to admit he was angry just said that he was feeling a little emotional and didn't want anyone to see him cry. There's a lot of positives with Dez more than I can count but there's things he still has to work on if he wants to reach his full potential.

 

[5Stars]

So why can't KJJ and CowboyRoy make their argument without calling people dopes, losers and stalkers? Isn't it odd that these poor oppressed souls are the only one's doing so? Kind of ironic that those so quick to classify someone as immature are the only culprits of that harbinger of immaturity in this thread.

Hey, birds of a feather flock together. Let them be BFF's...poor lonely mistreated, misunderstood souls. lol

 

[Plankton]

By the way, Irvin did have on-field incidents. I'm ashamed I forgot about this.
I should be forgiven, because James Washington's the one who truly stole the show here.

Barry Switzer had a great line in the locker room after the incident.

He yelled at Washington in the room, and said, "What were you going to do James? Line em all up and take their picture?"