Discussion in 'Overtime Zone' started by CowboyRoy, Aug 19, 2015.
you guys need some games that count, BAD!
I love Mike but Dez hasn't even come close to some of the things Irvin did.Everything with Dez is just so overblown.
(Before Primetime42's post showing video of Irvin's in-game incident)
(After Primetime42's post showing video of Irvin's in-game incident)
Time for an in-thread pop quiz!
Given the opportunity, which of the following posts would KJJ make before this thread is locked?
A) "Irvin was so serene and composed that he could've been mistaken for Mother Teresa."
B) "You know Irvin may have had anger issues but..."
Answer: neither. KJJ rarely (if ever) counters his previous comments on a topic, not even to the smallest degree, no matter how obvious evidence contradicts his running commentary.
Major ownage right there.
I really don't have a problem with KJJ saying Dez needs to better control himself - he's 100% right in that regard and I think we can all agree that while we love his passion he's gotta learn to pick his fights.
That being said, to use Michael Irvin as an example is a poor choice. If Irv played today, forget about it. There's so many things he surely did that we have no clue about, but stabbing a teammate in the neck with a pair of scissors because he wouldn't back down out of the barber's chair... dude, I don't care what Dez has done to this point in his career, nothing he's done or even been accused of even comes CLOSE to touching that.
I should also add that I absolutely love The Playmaker. Just throwing that in there.
Really good post.
Tell you what - if the players had a White House today - it would be on Google Earth and posted here with the address and would be a necessary stop for Cowboys fans with their camera phones right after the stadium tour.
Dez made himself look like a bit of a fool by calling David Moore a "sucky writer". Kind of stuff you'd expect from a 10 year old.
I compared Dez with Irvin because the passion they bring to the field and this team are the same. You are out of touch with reality because the facts show that he has never done anything that has been detrimental to the team. Until that happens this discussion is moot. Over 90 guys were involved in that brawl the other day and you choose Dez to make an issue out of? Again, you are out of touch. The motto of this team for two seasons has been to fight and to have each others back and Dez does this more than anyone. So, again I will say that if you dont like it be a fan of another team.
...when KJJ tells you don't ever say something and you don't obey, you're asking for trouble
A lot of twenty something year olds use that phrase. Lol
Meh. It's no better than Cole Beasley tweeting to someone to "eat a **** ".
The Cole tweet was hilarious
You're the one who brought up Irvin in this discussion using him as an example not me. Others followed with one poster accusing me of bringing him in to this discussion. Not true! Once Irvin was mentioned I made a comment that he never underwent anger management as far as we know of and one poster twisted that and claimed I said Irvin didn't have a temper. LOL I'm sure there's a lot of things he did that we don't know about but his issues that made headlines had to do with drugs and infidelity not anger. Irvin stabbed McIver in the neck with a pair of scissors after McIver punched him in the mouth during a fight that Irvin started. Irvin's ego started that fight. Dez having an incident with his mom back in 2012 where he was accused of ripping her shirt, smacking her with a baseball cap and threatening her could have ended in a tragic situation all due to his temper. She claimed she was trying to stop him from fighting her brother and wanting him to leave the house. The incident resulted in a warrant for Dez's arrest and he turned himself in. Some here on the board tried to excuse what Dez did because his mom was a drug addict and prostitute making it appear she deserved it.
That's the kind of logic provided from FANS. Prior to that incident Dez was detained by police for an alleged altercation at a Miami nightclub. There was a situation at a mall due to Dez wearing his pants too low which led to him getting banned from the mall for abusive language. His temper got the better of him again. It's been reported that the police have been called to Dez's residence a number of times and all of this is why it took so long for the Cowboys to come to terms on a new contract with him. It's been feared that once he got paid things could all blow up with him and we have to hope these fist fights he's been in aren't the start. Can anyone recall Dez "throwing punches" at anyone in practice prior to this year? I don't know if he's still angry about his catch in Green Bay being reversed but he needs to calm down and handle situations better.
omg. He used the FANS word.
Run Primetime24! Run!
I wasn't around for the bulk of the thread, so I'll take your word for most of this.
However, the first sentence is a boldfaced lie, so I wonder about the rest.
Dez has done things detrimental to the team. Anything that brings attention to him in a negative way is detrimental to the team. The incident with his mom in 2012 was detrimental to the team as was him walking off the field during the Green Bay game with over a minute to play. The situation in the mall with the security guard where his pants were too low causing Dez to use abusive language resulting in him getting banned from the mall was detrimental to the team because it made news and anything a player does that brings a negative light on them brings a negative light on their team. When you represent a franchise any incident is going to be detrimental to your organization. I didn't start this thread so I'm not the one who singled Dez out. When NFL Network came on the air prior to the brawl they singled Dez out saying something looked like it was about to go down. They showed Dez jawing with the Rams while his teammates were doing drills. Dez looked like he was itching to get a fight started. Constant jawing at players raises tension and disrespectful comments can lead to fights. Trash talking usually doesn't lead to punches it's disrespectful comments that lead to punches and Dez admitted with the Patmon fight that he jawed with him pretty good and he obviously must have crossed the line with some of his comments.
Dez has trouble letting things go. After he and Patmon exchanged punches on the field Dez was still mad on the sidelines and came after Patmon throwing another punch. Prior to the Rams brawl Dez kept on antagonizing the Rams corner while the player was retreating. This caused Jeff Fisher to step over to Dez. Fisher being in the area makes me believe Dez set everything in motion for that brawl. He raised the tension level on both sides with his continuous jawing and it set the foundation for what we saw. It's one thing to show passion but you don't want to come off looking like a trouble maker. There's no place for starting fights and having brawls if you're going to be a good team you have to have discipline. You have to practice like you play. You have it twisted the motto of this team isn't to fight on the field. Both teams looked like losers throwing punches and indiscriminately decking anyone who was in the area. One player was just standing there and got blindsided the whole situation was embarrassing.
OXNARD, California (AP)--Dez Bryant, wide receiver of the Dallas Cowboys, was involved in the first fight in football history. Pee wee, junior high, high school, college, NFL, CFL and FIFA officials were astounded.
You're right my first sentence was all wrong got you mixed up with someone else....my bad! I've been around for the bulk of this thread and have argued with a number of posters and confused you with bevo11 he's the one who brought up Irvin and used him as an example.
KJJ thinks that using the term FAN is somewhat of a put down or something. lol And, in one of his posts he told his BFF now, don't put a nice car in his avatar because it will make us FANS jealous because he drives his make believe car. lmao I pity those 8 million nline followers of his!