Fish: Under Consideration, Negotiation, Greg Hardy To be in Valley Ranch soon *Mega merged*

[darthseinfeld]

http://dal.scout.com/story/1527887-cowboys-hardy-on-radar-as-2nd-tier-buy?s=112

 

[darthseinfeld]

Yeah, I like this option and he can't really fault the Boys for lowballing him. Possible 6 game suspension and his current image are valid justification to do so. It just depends on where he wants to be. Raiders are the only other club I have heard wants him and will probably pay more to do so.

I thought they said no

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Lol never know whats going on. Last week there was an absolute no not interested no they are considering it.

Last week his price was up there. No takers, this week not so much on the price.

 

[DBOY3141]

This Hardy situation is looking more and more like a one year deal. The signing team gets a relative bargain and the player gets a year to repair their stock and renter the market looking for a big payday next year.

Several of these second tier players like Knighton and Clayborn have already done that.

You can add Nick Fairly as well. 1 year 5M deal with Rams.

 

[cowboyfan4life_mark]

This Hardy situation is looking more and more like a one year deal. The signing team gets a relative bargain and the player gets a year to repair their stock and renter the market looking for a big payday next year.

Several of these second tier players like Knighton and Clayborn have already done that.

This. No way Hardy signs a multi-year deal for cheap. Why would he? I can see a 1-2 year "cheap" deal with alot of incentives. Then in those 1-2 years, he would be a beast to line up the next contract.

 

[Gaede]

He friggin better be under.consideration

 

[bark]

Has he been officially released by the panthers or is he a FA

 

[NinePointOh]

Has he been officially released by the panthers or is he a FA

His contract expired. Last year he had gotten the franchise tag, and because of the legal trouble Carolina did not extend him beyond that.

 

[cowboyfan4life_mark]

Has he been officially released by the panthers or is he a FA

FA.

 

[Idgit]

The court had no choice since he paid off his girl friend to hide from the DA and not testify against
him on appeal. Sleazy Lawyer's trick.

Did he pay her more or less than she'd have gotten in the civil suit after he'd been found guilty? How much did he actually pay her, anyway? Do we know yet? Or have they still not found her to ask? Do we know she's even alive at all? Maybe he had her rubbed out? Let's go with rubbed out since we're just leaping to conclusions, anyway.

 

[CATCH17]

The court had no choice since he paid off his girl friend to hide from the DA and not testify against
him on appeal. Sleazy Lawyer's trick.

I understand that... But youre suspending him on assumptions and not facts.


The NFL needs to let the court decide if someone is guilty or not and get out of the punishment business because they suck at it.

 

[bark]

Thanks guys. Put me down for a yes to hardy. Would turn this FA period into a positive for us

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Did he pay her more or less than she'd have gotten in the civil suit after he'd been found guilty? How much did he actually pay her, anyway? Do we know yet? Or have they still not found her to ask? Do we know she's even alive at all? Maybe he had her rubbed out? Let's go with rubbed out since we're just leaping to conclusions, anyway.

Yeah he went all Sopranos on her. That made my Italian blood laugh.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Did he pay her more or less than she'd have gotten in the civil suit after he'd been found guilty? How much did he actually pay her, anyway? Do we know yet? Or have they still not found her to ask? Do we know she's even alive at all? Maybe he had her rubbed out? Let's go with rubbed out since we're just leaping to conclusions, anyway.

Your talking to the guy accused him of steroid use too.

He doesnt need facts

 

[Idgit]

This Hardy situation is looking more and more like a one year deal. The signing team gets a relative bargain and the player gets a year to repair their stock and renter the market looking for a big payday next year.

Several of these second tier players like Knighton and Clayborn have already done that.

I think it's even more likely we're looking at a multi year deal with a relatively expensive club option for years 2 and 3. Try-it-before you buy it year, and then it jumps up like the Melton deal did if the club wants to exercise the option. Otherwise, the player is free to do a long-term contract somewhere else. That protects the team in case the suspension is significant, and it looks better for the player and the agent in terms of his rehabilitation if the deal is for three years, meaning somebody was willing to take a bigger chance on him. By next year, if he's released for performance reasons (because the balloon payment is too rich for the team's blood), the domestic abuse accusations will be in the rear view window.

 

[Leadbelly]

I want a big time sack guy as much as anyone, but Hardy sounds like a guy making decisions that bring a lot of drama in his life.

If his ex was a party girl and an admitted narcotics user, seems very plausible that he knew about it and was indifferent to it. That's best case scenario. It doesn't seem like it was a situation where she had this secret addiction and he knew nothing about it. He wasn't married to her. Didn't have kids with her. If he wasn't okay with it in his life, he could have just ended that relationship. Add in reports of him keeping a mini arsenal. I don't know...there are some large warning signs with this guy.

It would have to be a super team-friendly contract. I don't see how you could give a big contract to Hardy while playing hardball with Dez.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I want a big time sack guy as much as anyone, but Hardy sounds like a guy making decisions that bring a lot of drama in his life.

If his ex was a party girl and an admitted narcotics user, seems very plausible that he knew about it and was indifferent to it. That's best case scenario. It doesn't seem like it was a situation where she had this secret addiction and he knew nothing about it. He wasn't married to her. Didn't have kids with her. If he wasn't okay with it in his life, he could have just ended that relationship. Add in reports of him keeping a mini arsenal. I don't know...there are some large warning signs with this guy.

It would have to be a super team-friendly contract. I don't see how you could give a big contract to Hardy while playing hardball with Dez.

Eh, I wonder how many of these guys have people around them like Hardy does and we just don't know it. It's not like Dez is surrounded by outstanding citizens.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I think it's even more likely we're looking at a multi year deal with a relatively expensive club option for years 2 and 3. Try-it-before you buy it year, and then it jumps up like the Melton deal did if the club wants to exercise the option. Otherwise, the player is free to do a long-term contract somewhere else. That protects the team in case the suspension is significant, and it looks better for the player and the agent in terms of his rehabilitation if the deal is for three years, meaning somebody was willing to take a bigger chance on him. By next year, if he's released for performance reasons (because the balloon payment is too rich for the team's blood), the domestic abuse accusations will be in the rear view window.

This would be ideal I think,,,

 

[xwalker]

If suspended, would he still be allowed to participate in offseason workouts, training camp and practices during the season?

Yes, Scandrick participated in all of training camp/preseason last year before serving his suspension.

 

[Idgit]

I want a big time sack guy as much as anyone, but Hardy sounds like a guy making decisions that bring a lot of drama in his life.

If his ex was a party girl and an admitted narcotics user, seems very plausible that he knew about it and was indifferent to it. That's best case scenario. It doesn't seem like it was a situation where she had this secret addiction and he knew nothing about it. He wasn't married to her. Didn't have kids with her. If he wasn't okay with it in his life, he could have just ended that relationship. Add in reports of him keeping a mini arsenal. I don't know...there are some large warning signs with this guy.

It would have to be a super team-friendly contract. I don't see how you could give a big contract to Hardy while playing hardball with Dez.

That's the thing. In terms of the knuckle-head factor, he's another Dez (and I'm not comparing their situations in any other way). It's tough to argue that Dez hasn't been worth the headache.

Hardy's a heck of a young player. And he's supposed to be a good teammate, too.