Kitna reached out to Cowboys

[khiladi]

True.

And the angle not being talked about is he's seen all the defenses in the league. There isn't much that's going to overwhelm and confuse Kitna.

I'm certainly not saying he's a good QB but he's probably the best emergency QB you'll find right now. Even with the lay off.

Derrick Rose, a real professional talent, says otherwise...

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

I would think our play book shrunk quite a bit when Romo went down. Wouldn't you rather have some one with some familiarity of it running things?

I hope it didn't shrink. …. now our run/pass ratio might be higher to the former…. but I wanted that all along.

 

[Bleu Star]

I would think our play book shrunk quite a bit when Romo went down. Wouldn't you rather have some one with some familiarity of it running things?

It became very simple.

60% Running plays (55 of that 60% to DeMarco)
20% Quick pass plays designed to get guys open in space and allow them to improvise
10% Screen passes to DeMarco
10% Play action

That's the new formula and it can win this game. Oh, & Kitna and Orton can run every piece of it. The only thing that will make me nervous is the PA but, if DeMarco and that oline has success, whoever is back there at QB will have options.

 

[khiladi]

I would think our play book shrunk quite a bit when Romo went down. Wouldn't you rather have some one with some familiarity of it running things?

Honestly, it's going to be a return to the basic Jason Garrett offense, with a lot of 2 TE sets for protection. No 5 WR sets. Don't know how much Beasley is going to play or Harris. It's going to be pretty ugly. There is going to be a lot of checkdowns to Murray as well.

 

[Picksix]

Wait, couldn't Carr, Skelton or any of the other QBs that are in playing shape have done that? WHy were we talking about his brilliant leadership and ability to inspire with his prayer meetings and the like?

Okay, now you're just arguing of the sake of arguing, and it's getting ridiculous. Blocking scenes? Really? He's not a RB. He's a QB, whose played in the league long to where he's not gonna be phased by a different blocking scheme. It's an emergency situation, and he's just as good as, or better than, any of the other options. All the things you're bringing up about Kitna, you could apply to any other QB that's available. They may have taken more snaps in the last two years, but they're no better. If they were, they'd already have a job.

 

[Bleu Star]

Honestly, it's going to be a return to the basic Jason Garrett offense, with a lot of 2 TE sets for protection. No 5 WR sets. Don't know how much Beasley is going to play or Harris. It's going to be pretty ugly.

If ugly equals success, I'll take ugly.

 

[Hostile]

Derrick Rose, a real professional talent, says otherwise...

So Derrick Rose has played behind Bill Callahan's incredibly complicated zone blocking scheme?

Good hell. We blew it.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I hope it didn't shrink. …. now our run/pass ratio might be higher to the former…. but I wanted that all along.

Here's what I THINK we would do. Run with very few short passes. DM has a chip on his shoulder, let him have at it.
Going to have to take chances because our defense sucks so bad but still have to stay patient. If we can do the simple things we can win this game.
If the coaches get panicky and start throwing abandoning the run, then we lose and deservedly so.

 

[khiladi]

Okay, now you're just arguing of the sake of arguing, and it's getting ridiculous. Blocking scenes? Really? He's not a RB. He's a QB, whose played in the league long to where he's not gonna be phased by a different blocking scheme. It's an emergency situation, and he's just as good as, or better than, any of the other options. All the things you're bringing up about Kitna, you could apply to any other QB that's available. They may have taken more snaps in the last two years, but they're no better. If they were, they'd already have a job.

My comments was directed to the spin by the poster as painting it a brilliant move one moment and saying he's just going to hand it off and it;s not a big deal the next...

Do I really think it's going to be an issue? No, we'll just run a dumbed down version of a simplified Garrett offense of two TE max protect and a lot of checkdowns to Murray. It's going to be very conservative and teams will just be content taking away the vertical routes and playing in front of us. It will be the same with Orton as well.

The reality though is our offense, its not just blocking schemes, we run it differently that back then. For example, we don't run the delay draw that much anymore when it was a staple with Garrett and we are running more sweeps. We didn't run play-action either and we were running with Romo checking out of the play depending on formation.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

It became very simple.

60% Running plays (55 of that 60% to DeMarco)
20% Quick pass plays designed to get guys open in space and allow them to improvise
10% Screen passes to DeMarco
10% Play action

That's the new formula and it can win this game. Oh, & Kitna and Orton can run every piece of it. The only thing that will make me nervous is the PA but, if DeMarco and that oline has success, whoever is back there at QB will have options.

That's a great plan. lets hope the HC thinks the same.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Honestly, it's going to be a return to the basic Jason Garrett offense, with a lot of 2 TE sets for protection. No 5 WR sets. Don't know how much Beasley is going to play or Harris. It's going to be pretty ugly. There is going to be a lot of checkdowns to Murray as well.

It doesn't have to be pretty. Just has to work.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Kitna isn't the main plan here. Orton is starting if Tony can't, no?

 

[Risen Star]

What difference does it make? If Orton get's hurt, it's over anyway. Does anyone really think David Carr would lead us to victory? I'd rather go down with Kitna.

The Cowboys don't need a player with upside and down the road potential. They need a guy who can play this Sunday if need be with the season on the line.

You're not going to find somebody who excites you. We're looking for a QB in late December. You're either going to get a young guy struggling to find a spot in the league or a situation like this where a veteran is willing to come back. I'd much rather have Kitna on the field on Sunday over any of the other QBs that they worked out. You just have to cross your fingers that he can shake off the rust.

 

[Hostile]

My comments was directed to the spin by the poster as painting it a brilliant move one moment and saying he's just going to hand it off and it;s not a big deal the next... Its not just blocking schemes, we run it differently. For example, we don't run the delay draw that much anymore when it was a staple with Garrett. We didn't run play-action either and we were running with Romo checking out of the play depending on formation. We aren't going to do that anymore if Kitna goes in.

I said it was a "brilliant move?" No, I think I answered your questions then kicked your trolling all over the place. In fact, I openly said if it had been up to me I would have signed Greg McElroy. Perhaps you should try reading?

I tried to explain to you why Kitna was an appealing option to the Cowboys. I further explained what they probably would have done had Kitna not called them to say he was available. I was unaware at the time about the complexities of Callahan's zone blocking scheme, the availability of a point guard to run our emergency offense, nor of your superiority in QB talent evaluation to Marvin Lewis and Mike Holmgren. I find those revelations to be exactly what I said, "good hell."

 

[khiladi]

Kitna isn't the main plan here. Orton is starting if Tony can't, no?

Honestly, if we are getting blown out, I'd like to see Kitna in for the story...

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

It became very simple.

60% Running plays (55 of that 60% to DeMarco)
20% Quick pass plays designed to get guys open in space and allow them to improvise
10% Screen passes to DeMarco
10% Play action

That's the new formula and it can win this game. Oh, & Kitna and Orton can run every piece of it. The only thing that will make me nervous is the PA but, if DeMarco and that oline has success, whoever is back there at QB will have options.

Not bad, Gotta take shots down the field…. The eagles CB's can't stop Dez and T Will…. I expect bees to have a big game, and Orton won't be as locked in on Witten as Romo is.

 

[Hostile]

Kitna isn't the main plan here. Orton is starting if Tony can't, no?

Another person who doesn't understand how we could have had Derrick Rose instead.

 

[Bleu Star]

Kitna isn't the main plan here. Orton is starting if Tony can't, no?

I'm amazed that there's still an inkling of a chance that Tony may go. I guess if the docs say there couldn't be any further damage done (which would really amaze me), he may try to give it a go. Is this all a smoke screen to keep Philly guessing or will we really see Tony on the field Sunday night? Stay tuned. The soap opera is going to get really good in 4 days.

 

[Risen Star]

That's a great plan. lets hope the HC thinks the same.

I don't agree.

Dez Bryant. Use him. Even when you think he's not open, he is. Chuck it up, dawg. If we're going down, let's go down swinging.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Hostile, Khiladi…. its a tie!
Go Boys!