NBA Off-season Moves (starting with my Mavs)

[ABQCOWBOY]

Maverick fans right now

OK, that's funny.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Just to talk about the Knicks-

Phil made a bunch of solid moves, but realistically we had no chance of landing Lemacus Aldridge or Deandre Jordan. Not landing Greg Monroe, was probably a good thing as well. Reports are we did not offer him the max, mainly because he wasn't a good fit with Porzingas, whom they expect no defense from and Monroe wasn't a good enough player on his own to ignore a guy you just drafted #4. Out of the remaining option, Robin Lopez was likely the best. I don't like his price tage, but when you consider how much the cap jumps next year, it isn't that bad.

Kyle O'Quinn and Derrick Williams were both good, cheap depth signings. O'Quinn gives us another big that is similar to Lopez (without the length) and Williams gives us an option that allows us to bring Porzingas along slowly. Williams main strength is he's good in transition, which doesn't look like it will be a strength of this team, but playing with Melo may result in a few more open looks beyond the arc.

Aaron Affalo was another good signing, if for no other reason his defense. Anything between 10-15ppg is fine with me, but where he is needed is as a perimeter defender.

So with all this, our line-up looks roughly like this

C- Robin Lopez, Kyle O'Quinn
PF- Kristaps Porzingas, Derrick Williams
SF- Carmelo Anthony, Cleanthony Early
SG- Aaron Affalo, Langston Galloway
PG- Jose Calderon, Jerian Grant

Nothing to write home about, but with no serious injuries, this team could compete for the 8th spot, which would be great considering I don't want us giving up a great pick to the Nuggets/Raptors.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

temporary celebration. fans easily will get bored with first round exits. and once you get stuck in the #5-#8 area, it's hard to improve since you won't get high lottery picks. So unless you already have your core together and they just need time (Golden State), then that's typically as far as you go.

I think you are underestimating Charlotte fans.... desperate!!!! They just want to have steady winning for a few years... No delusion of winning it all unless the pieces are there.... I've been to multiple games down there....... Also... Thats usually the the theory..... but every once and a while a bunch of high picks, that's not superstars, come together and do something special..... a la, the Detroit Pistons(2004).....or the Seattle Super Sonics(1978)

 

[CATCH17]

temporary celebration. fans easily will get bored with first round exits. and once you get stuck in the #5-#8 area, it's hard to improve since you won't get high lottery picks. So unless you already have your core together and they just need time (Golden State), then that's typically as far as you go.

NFL is the same but you always get the debate from fans wanting to win those week 15 and 16 games when you have nothing to play for.

Give me draft position all day over winning a pointless game.


The Colts tanked a season for Luck.. Nobody will remember that season tank but they'll be happy for 15 years of stellar QB play.

 

[John813]

Heats bench is starting to look decent with the Gerald Green signing.

Wonder if Riley can convince Amare to sign here for the minimum. Then it's up to Arison if he wants to pay a boat load in luxury taxes.

 

[coogrfan]

NFL is the same but you always get the debate from fans wanting to win those week 15 and 16 games when you have nothing to play for.

Give me draft position all day over winning a pointless game.


The Colts tanked a season for Luck.. Nobody will remember that season tank but they'll be happy for 15 years of stellar QB play.

Yeah, but how often does an Andrew Luck come along? It's more likely that a team with a high pick will get a guy who isn't a franchise changer.

 

[bounce]

Yeah, but how often does an Andrew Luck come along? It's more likely that a team with a high pick will get a guy who isn't a franchise changer.

Also, the worst record in the NFL guarantees the #1 pick. The worst record in the NBA only gives the best chances of winning the #1 pick. When the Spurs got Duncan, they actually had the third worst record in the league.

 

[CATCH17]

Yeah, but how often does an Andrew Luck come along? It's more likely that a team with a high pick will get a guy who isn't a franchise changer.

Regardless I want the high pick.

Just takes an RG3 and Dan Snyder to coop a ton of picks.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Heats bench is starting to look decent with the Gerald Green signing.

Wonder if Riley can convince Amare to sign here for the minimum. Then it's up to Arison if he wants to pay a boat load in luxury taxes.

Gerald Green is a nice move... his energy and athleticism is a good balance with Justice Winslow's patience, and athleticism........Green will give 5 3's and 30 one game, go away the next, than give you a big dunk to spark a run the next.... very volatile, but energetic none the less. Add in Napier, and Tyler Johnson, that's good athleticism and youth coming from the lead guard and wing positions.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Also, the worst record in the NFL guarantees the #1 pick. The worst record in the NBA only gives the best chances of winning the #1 pick. When the Spurs got Duncan, they actually had the third worst record in the league.

Still some Boston fans salty about that draft.

 

[Roadtrip635]

It's rumored that the Mavs will sign 1 day contracts with Rick Mahorn and Bill Laimbeer for the first Mavs/Clippers game.
That first game is gonna be brutal, expect several technicals, some flagrant fouls and probably an ejection or two.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I think you are underestimating Charlotte fans.... desperate!!!! They just want to have steady winning for a few years... No delusion of winning it all unless the pieces are there.... I've been to multiple games down there....... Also... Thats usually the the theory..... but every once and a while a bunch of high picks, that's not superstars, come together and do something special..... a la, the Detroit Pistons(2004).....or the Seattle Super Sonics(1978)

Yeah, you are pretty much on the money with that. I have lived in Texas, Florida and around the DC and Atlanta. I have lived around a lot of various team's fans. To me, the fans in this charlotte area are some of my favorites that I have ever encountered. Good fans, and by and large really friendly to other teams fans. They will get behind their team if they can just get a quality product that competes, it's just that simple for them.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

NFL is the same but you always get the debate from fans wanting to win those week 15 and 16 games when you have nothing to play for.

I disagree, the NFL isn't the same. In basketball, the top pick is one in 5 starters, in football, they are 1 of 22. Yes in hindsight the Colts were fortunate that they ended up with Luck, but had Luck returned to school, they likely take RG3. And there really isn't a guy every year worth tanking for. Cam Newton is really good, but hardly worth an entire season of losing, same goes for Sam Bradford, Matthew Stafford, Jake Long, Javedon Clowney, Eric Fisher, JaMarcus Russell, or pretty much any #1 pick between Luck and Manning.

Sometimes those 1-2 wins at the end of the season are worth it.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

..Mavs gave Wes 70mil over 4yrs for sticking around....
Poor business move, on a player that just tore his achilles.... Not too many players come back to be the same after an achilles tears at 30 yrs old or older

Edit: he's 28, so we'll see..... wish him the best.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Amare signs with the Heat... They're really going for it...

Maybe we see a Heat vs Cavs ECF??

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

ZaZa is a Mav....

 

[jterrell]

various:
DAJ bolting is a gamer changer. Mavs go from an A off-season to an F in one move.
All that said you don't wanna build around that clown show.
Zaza was a good move. 1 year deal at 6m. Won't help win many games.

I am avidly opposed to tanking for tankings sake, but the tanking may be honest for the mavs this season.

Not sure the product will be watchable but I won't give up the Mavs FO yet.

Clips better bench all their stars when they play Dallas. Can only imagine the fouls coming on CP3, Blake and anyone else of value to that org in those games.

Clips look to be just behind the elites. That's a VERY good team but still shy of SAS/GSW/CLE.

No worse time to be tanking... 5 to 7 teams trying at once....

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

Sounds like the Nets are working to buy out Deron Williams and he wants to join the Mavs.

So, things are kinda looking less like a dumpster fire.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...s-brooklyn-nets-talks-secure-williams-release

 

[jterrell]

Sounds like the Nets are working to buy out Deron Williams and he wants to join the Mavs.

So, things are kinda looking less like a dumpster fire.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...s-brooklyn-nets-talks-secure-williams-release

I think that was the plan WITH DAJ.
It's why they never went in for a PG even when DAJ had agreed to sign.

I don't think they'll fall below 30 wins but a lot depends upon health now.
Wes and CP have to be healthy and playing 70+ games.

DWill was always likely being bought out. It is far cheaper for the Nets to do so than to pay him and the repeater tax.
And a trade wasn't gonna happen given his 15% trade kicker and 2016 year.

Dallas badly needed a starting PG and DWill has always murdered it in the AAC.
His friends and family that are still within a few blocks of my house have said nothing (and fwiw they were fairly confident he was coming home as a free agent) but it makes great logical sense as a fit.
He'd be able to send his kids to great schools in very affluent Prosper/Celina(10 minutes north of where he played HS ball and I live) and have space galore plus could get to a gym every day if he so chose without any major hassle.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Spurs just signed the Giant from Game Of Thrones

Spurs have signed Serbian giant Boban Marjanovich to a 1-year $2M deal.
7'4" with a standing reach of 9'7"!!!!

The ball looks like a pee-wee ball... lol

Spurs will be able to play Small Ball or Tall Ball!!!!!!