Neighborhood watch captain kills black teen - doesn't get arrested

[The30YardSlant]

I'm thinking that even if Zimmerman is cleared that in one way or the other he'll never be truly free.

Even if it was Self Defense he will have to deal with the fact that someone died at his hands for the rest of his life. The fact that a family is grieving over a loved one lost to them forever. This is if his friend is telling the truth about Zimmerman feeling remorse.

And some who will not be happy that he was cleared Zimmerman will worry about someone trying to kill him for revenge.

And if a black person kills him out of revenge, I'll be very curious to see what kind of national response that gets.

Just kidding, I already know. The "he deserved it" crowd would be alarmingly massive.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm thinking that even if Zimmerman is cleared that in one way or the other he'll never be truly free.

Even if it was Self Defense he will have to deal with the fact that someone died at his hands for the rest of his life. The fact that a family is grieving over a loved one lost to them forever. This is if his friend is telling the truth about Zimmerman feeling remorse.

And some who will not be happy that he was cleared Zimmerman will worry about someone trying to kill him for revenge.

I'm sure that will be the case if he is found innocent. He will have to move and likely change his name and to some extent his appearance.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

True, mistakes even by those with the best intentions can make mistakes. Did they at this time I can't say they did or didn't. Many things I was lead to believe turned out not to be the facts.

I don't know if they messed up on purpose or not. But there are cops who are dirty on purpose and make Good cops look bad and that's why some don't trust cops.

 

[Dallas]

The problem is that sociologists (one of the most useless professions ever invented) decided years ago that the term "racism" can ONLY be used to described prejudice towards a minority group by the group "in power". Most of these esteemed "professionals" will tell you that minorities CAN'T be racist because they are minorities.

The result of this is the idea that only white people are racist in this country. Call it whatever you want, but the most concentrated and hateful "racists" I've ever come into contact with are black people in high density urban areas. There is a large contingent of black America that genuinely hates whites and, even moreso, hispanics. It's a culture, and an alarmingly acceptable one due to the misconceptions about what modern racism really is. Essentially, we have deemed that it is "ok" for African-Americans to be racist.

An alarmingly spot on summarization of how a lot of folks see this issue.

Spot on 30. I appreciate the post.

This thread can certainly get ugly as im sure we all can see, but it's these types of posts that really should make people think about the racial divide in America and why we are where we are today.

Alot of people in this very thread won't agree w/ it though.

 

[zrinkill]

I'm thinking that even if Zimmerman is cleared that in one way or the other he'll never be truly free.

Even if it was Self Defense he will have to deal with the fact that someone died at his hands for the rest of his life. The fact that a family is grieving over a loved one lost to them forever. This is if his friend is telling the truth about Zimmerman feeling remorse.

And some who will not be happy that he was cleared Zimmerman will worry about someone trying to kill him for revenge.

The self inflicted riots will be sad to watch.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

And if a black person kills him out of revenge, I'll be very curious to see what kind of national response that gets.

Just kidding, I already know. The "he deserved it" crowd would be alarmingly massive.

Just like OJ and Casey Anthony there will be some who still think that he is a murderer no matter what the outcome of the case.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

The self inflicted riots will be sad to watch.

Yes and will be a disgrace to Trayvon's memory if people turn to riots.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't know if they messed up on purpose or not. But there are cops who are dirty on purpose and make Good cops look bad and that's why some don't trust cops.

True there are bad cops as there are bad people in all professions. As far as I'm concerned I think Police who break the law as well as judges, politicians should be held to the highest standard and given the max punishment when they abuse their position because of the power and trust people give them. I once mentioned this to a judge friend of mine, she is now the DA for Harris County and she fully agreed that

 

[Dallas]

Yes and will be a disgrace to Trayvon's memory if people turn to riots.

Who has time to riot? I could never riot. I am FARRRRR to busy to riot. The mob mentality to riot is only a cover for looting. :laugh2:


We all know that.

 

[The30YardSlant]

An alarmingly spot on summarization of how a lot of folks see this issue.

Spot on 30. I appreciate the post.

I would also like to point out that we ALL have prejudices that we have to overcome. Some people have issues with homosexuals, others with certain races, religions or ethnicities. We all stereotype and think things we wish we didnt at times. This isnt what makes you a racist, sexist, etc. however. It's people who genuinely BELIEVE and ACT on their prejudice and who arent able to realize it just a flawed set of thoughts on their part that define racism or sexism or whatever.

The problem is that anytime a white person says anything that might be "off color" or even tries to discuss racism openly, they are questioned and written off as racists. That isnt the case with other groups.

 

[zrinkill]

Yes and will be a disgrace to Trayvon's memory if people turn to riots.

Actually from the information being released about this kid ....... sounds like the same mindset that he lived by.

Which is sad in itself.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Just like OJ and Casey Anthony there will be some who still think that he is a murderer no matter what the outcome of the case.

The difference being that the evidence overhwhelmingly suggest that OJ and Anthony were murderers and they got off due to the prosecution's ineptitude.

I agree that Zimmerman could very well be guilty of manslaughter, but I really don't believe there is anything to suggest outright murder. Not yet, anyway.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

True there are bad cops as there are bad people in all professions. As far as I'm concerned I think Police who break the law as well as judges, politicians should be held to the highest standard and given the max punishment when they abuse their position because of the power and trust people give them. I once mentioned this to a judge friend of mine, she is now the DA for Harris County and she fully agreed that

I agree. Just like the cop in New Orleans who made the "Live like Thug, Die like one" comment about Trayvon. He was suspended.

Some people said that he had rights to his freedom of speech. But even with Freedom of Speech I think you have to watch what you say when you are in certain jobs of power or influence .

 

[The30YardSlant]

Actually from the information being released about this kid ....... sounds like the same mindset that he lived by.

Which is sad in itself.

We were all idiot kids at some point. So he raised a little hell and smoked a little pot, every single one of us did something that had we been caught would have gotten us arrested in our youth. It's not like he was a gang banger.

He was a normal dumb teenager who didnt deserve to die, IMO. That's all. Race and bias aside, I think the issue is that Zimmerman needs to be held accountable for unfairly ending the life of someone who it doesnt appear deserved to be shot. If it was justified so be it, but let the courts decide.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Actually from the information being released about this kid ....... sounds like the same mindset that he lived by.

Which is sad in itself.

Right he's not perfect. Many people have been in trouble in their teens getting suspended from school and getting in trouble at school. But it doesn't mean that they are bad Human Beings.


Was Trayvon perfect? No


I don't think that people should point out his suspensions like it's some kind of proof that he was an awful person who deserved to die.

 

[TheCount]

And some who will not be happy that he was cleared Zimmerman will worry about someone trying to kill him for revenge.

You guys make it sound like every time someone is acquitted in a controversial case, they are assassinated. How's Casey Anthony doing? You'd think she'd have been killed by now, right? Or is it just black people that can't control themselves?

 

[Dallas]

You guys make it sound like every time someone is acquitted in a controversial case, they are assassinated.

Well, O.J is in jail.

How many white riots happened after that crazy verdict huh? I don't recall Mobile, AL. being burnt to the ground. Hrmmm.

 

[zrinkill]

He was a normal dumb teenager who didnt deserve to die, IMO.

Never said he did ...... I was talking about the riot and looting mindset.

Right he's not perfect. Many people have been in trouble in their teens getting suspended from school and getting in trouble at school. But it doesn't mean that they are bad Human Beings.

I don't think that people should point out his suspensions like it's some kind of proof that he was an awful person who deserved to die.

:laugh2: Definitely never said that. But this goes back to what we were talking bout earlier.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

You guys make it sound like every time someone is acquitted in a controversial case, they are assassinated. How's Casey Anthony doing? You'd think she'd have been killed by now, right? Or is it just black people that can't control themselves?

Zimmerman had been getting Death threats are they all from Black People? I don't know.

Zimmerman is in fear for his life according to his friend.

 

[Doomsday101]

You guys make it sound like every time someone is acquitted in a controversial case, they are assassinated.

No, not at all but in some cases people do have to be concerned with their safety. Casey Anthony being one and Zimmerman does have a 10,000 bounty on his head. If they determine he is innocent I don't think I would continue to live in Florida.