Rush listed as the backup QB, Lance is 3

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All that wait and things are the same!! Cheers to Rush!


I watched college QBs this weekend that would beat out Lance if they went heads up against him. Getting dumped by the 9ers was probably the worst thing for his career. Now he’s just someone’s pet project until they tire of his inconsistencies and he’ll get dumped and picked up again and again and again and again because everyone’s a QB whisper in the NFL. What Lance should do is try to get signed by the Canadian Football League or the USFL where he will be an instant draw because everybody is curious to see the QB that the 9ers spent a king’s ransom for and failed miserably trying to be just an average QB at best.
 

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Quincy played much better with Parcells as the coach. Quincy was benched for Hutchison in 2002 because he sucked. Then in 2004 Parcells took over and they won 10 games and lost in the WC round. Parcells greatest coaching was with Quincy because Quincy was a career backup at best without the drug problems. With the drug problems Quincy was out of the league.

What is maddening. And I mean completely drives me insane. Jerry watched this unfold with a 2nd string QB in Quincy. He saw how a great coach managed to get a below average QB to the playoffs. Then we lucked into Romo and Dak and Jerry hires sorry coaches suck the talent out of Romo and Dak. Just think what a great coach could get out of arguably 2 top 10 QBs in the last 18 years. But no, Jerry went with Garrett and McCarthy. Completely maddening!!!!!

I still believe we haven’t found a good QB after Aikman retired but I do believe Jerry’s desire to have a puppet coach has sabotaged the franchise.
Bruce Closett sabotaged Dak in favor of Hutchinson. His ceiling probably was a backup he lacked the consistency it takes to be more than what it was. You think Dak and Romo were top 10 quarterbacks but we haven’t had a good QB after Aikman?
 

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The fact he tossed 5 INTs, including one where he didn’t see the LB drop into coverage, another where he stared down his WR allowing the safety to break the route, says something….
As all NFL QBs have done at some point.
 

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Its 4 years of NFL coaching with two of best QB developers in the NFL. If he absorbed any of it, he wouldn't have had the awful preseason he did

He is just not an NFL caliber player. Never will be
He had a better ps than the dislikers will give him credit for. As they were already determined to not like him
And we know why.
 

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You think Dak and Romo were top 10 quarterbacks but we haven’t had a good QB after Aikman?
That’s a great question. That’s a hard one to answer. Romo and Dak are 2 of the more perplexing QBs I’ve seen on any team. Well throw in Cousins to that mix. These guys have shown greatness is the regular season and poor play in the post season. It’s confusing. Yeah that’s the word I would use to define Romo, Dak and Cousins. Confusing. These guys can be an all pro one game and then the next game look terrible.

I’ve used Quincy Carter as an example to fight the narrative that Dak is irreplaceable. I stand by that. The reason why I believe Romo and Dak haven’t been “the guy “ and we’re still in QB purgatory is due to Dak’s and Romo’s inconsistency. Now that Romo is gone who cares about him. But for Dak, there were times last season were I was watching him thinking this dude is it. This dude is MVP and he’s playing the best in the league, then BOOM Miami and Buffalo hit. Then obviously Green Bay hit. I feel the inconsistency is the reason I feel he is another guy in a long list of guys that couldn’t replace Aikman. Same as Romo. Inconsistent and Dak and Romo have their worst games at the worst time. That’s JMO. I do feel if you watch Dak in the regular season against most teams and walk away saying he’s not top 10 then you’re blinded by hate and bias. If you watch Dak play against SF, Buffalo, Arizona, Miami, and in the playoffs and you walk away thinking we got to pay this guy whatever he wants then you’re blinded by homerism and bias. I’m not opposed to resigning Dak today for 30-35 APY, it’s not my first choice, but I’d be okay to happy about it. It’s that inconsistency that pulls me back to he’s not the guy to replace Aikman.

Yeah sorry that was so long. Dak is not a black and white issue with me. It’s very grey due to the inconsistency and what he’s asking for. Also good call with Bruce Costlett sabotaging Carter. He did prefer Hutchison. I wonder if Jerry did too. He was infatuated with baseball players during that era. Weird.
 

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He had a better ps than the dislikers will give him credit for. As they were already determined to not like him
And we know why.
They dont like him because he is not a good QB lol

He had a very bad preseason. Two outright awful games, and one that was decent. The decent game.

Some fans either oversold themselves on his potential and convinced themselves thay excuses were reality (they arent). Or that the Cowboys 4th round investment in him is justified (its not)
 

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That’s a great question. That’s a hard one to answer. Romo and Dak are 2 of the more perplexing QBs I’ve seen on any team. Well throw in Cousins to that mix. These guys have shown greatness is the regular season and poor play in the post season. It’s confusing. Yeah that’s the word I would use to define Romo, Dak and Cousins. Confusing. These guys can be an all pro one game and then the next game look terrible.

I’ve used Quincy Carter as an example to fight the narrative that Dak is irreplaceable. I stand by that. The reason why I believe Romo and Dak haven’t been “the guy “ and we’re still in QB purgatory is due to Dak’s and Romo’s inconsistency. Now that Romo is gone who cares about him. But for Dak, there were times last season were I was watching him thinking this dude is it. This dude is MVP and he’s playing the best in the league, then BOOM Miami and Buffalo hit. Then obviously Green Bay hit. I feel the inconsistency is the reason I feel he is another guy in a long list of guys that couldn’t replace Aikman. Same as Romo. Inconsistent and Dak and Romo have their worst games at the worst time. That’s JMO. I do feel if you watch Dak in the regular season against most teams and walk away saying he’s not top 10 then you’re blinded by hate and bias. If you watch Dak play against SF, Buffalo, Arizona, Miami, and in the playoffs and you walk away thinking we got to pay this guy whatever he wants then you’re blinded by homerism and bias. I’m not opposed to resigning Dak today for 30-35 APY, it’s not my first choice, but I’d be okay to happy about it. It’s that inconsistency that pulls me back to he’s not the guy to replace Aikman.

Yeah sorry that was so long. Dak is not a black and white issue with me. It’s very grey due to the inconsistency and what he’s asking for. Also good call with Bruce Costlett sabotaging Carter. He did prefer Hutchison. I wonder if Jerry did too. He was infatuated with baseball players during that era. Weird.
I'm where you are. As lame as it sounds, the proof is in the pudding with these guys (Romo, Dak, Cousins). They have been given so many opportunities in big games and they always came up short. Romo even came up short as a "HOLDER" much less a QB. I guess I've just lost my patience for it. If I see ineptitude in big games more than a couple times, I am just DONE. It's like hiring a contractor to paint a room. If they don't get it right after the 2nd room, I'm looking for a new painter....
 

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I watched college QBs this weekend that would beat out Lance if they went heads up against him. Getting dumped by the 9ers was probably the worst thing for his career. Now he’s just someone’s pet project until they tire of his inconsistencies and he’ll get dumped and picked up again and again and again and again because everyone’s a QB whisper in the NFL. What Lance should do is try to get signed by the Canadian Football League or the USFL where he will be an instant draw because everybody is curious to see the QB that the 9ers spent a king’s ransom for and failed miserably trying to be just an average QB at best.
Then they come here and run our boring offense and they'll be just like him
 

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So the team with the bad QB situation gets him closer to being a starter.
In no circumstance is he started for any of the 32 teams..if he is relegated to 2nd vs 3rd string on 2 or 3 teams is debatable.
 

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I'm where you are. As lame as it sounds, the proof is in the pudding with these guys (Romo, Dak, Cousins). They have been given so many opportunities in big games and they always came up short. Romo even came up short as a "HOLDER" much less a QB. I guess I've just lost my patience for it. If I see ineptitude in big games more than a couple times, I am just DONE. It's like hiring a contractor to paint a room. If they don't get it right after the 2nd room, I'm looking for a new painter....
I feel you. I actually really appreciated the question @TheMarathonContinues asked because it made me think. Why is it on Sunday I’m posting feverishly about Dak being a failed QB to replace Aikman then the very next day I state he’s a top 10 guy. My answer to that is the very confusing inconsistency in his play. But I’m glad he asked that because it made me think it through. That’s my answer, very confusing inconsistency is it.
 

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Ok cool. I don’t believe you that you don’t have a personal vendetta against Lance. You made up a nickname for him trolling him and you’ve been against him since he came here. Even before he played in this preseason you were calling him Trance. You claim it’s not personal and it’s about the money and the draft capital. The money is a moot point as of today because we have money under the salary cap and we still didn’t sign anyone. And the draft capital you claim to be upset about well let’s look at this:

Kelvin Joseph- 2nd round pick, involved in a murder, no demeaning nickname from you
Mazi Smith- 1st round pick, completely unproductive on the field, caused a hole in the defense, no demeaning nickname from you.
Schoonmaker- 2nd round pick, unproductive, complete reach, no demeaning nickname from you
Sam Williams- 2nd round pick, complete knucklehead, a couple splash plays but not overly productive, no demeaning nickname from you
Nashon Wright- 4th rounder, completely worthless, traded this offseason, no demeaning nickname from you.
Overshown- 4th rounder, torn ACL last season, limited reps due to injury this season, injury prone and yet again no demeaning nickname from you.

That’s all I can think of off the top of my head without googling our draft picks. You claim it’s not personal but you don’t have any demeaning nicknames for any other draft bust or player that didn’t pan out. Just Trance. If you want to try to convince me it’s not personal knock yourself out. I know that in every post in every thread for months I referred to Dak as “Dak Preschoke” or Micah as “Micah Podcast “ it would be a very difficult sell that I don’t have a personal issue with them.
Give more examples of Jerry's mistake does not excuse the mistake of trading for Trance.
 

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I feel you. I actually really appreciated the question @TheMarathonContinues asked because it made me think. Why is it on Sunday I’m posting feverishly about Dak being a failed QB to replace Aikman then the very next day I state he’s a top 10 guy. My answer to that is the very confusing inconsistency in his play. But I’m glad he asked that because it made me think it through. That’s my answer, very confusing inconsistency is it.
At some point it comes down to "how many chances is a guy given?"... Aikman lost to the Lions but roared back and won the Super Bowl the next year and played some of his best football in the playoffs. He rose to the occasion after the first playoff game. Not seeing it with any of these other guys and they have been give a ton of chances. Done with them! You feel bad because they can do some other good things I guess but have to draw a line in the sand at some point right?
 
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