Terrance Williams "Took some plays off"

Frozen700 said:
It was a great catch.

Not saying he should make more like that, but the consistency. He made a play that didn't have to be a long bomb or anything extra. He worked, and got open. We need more of that.
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How many catches do you want him taking from dez, witten, or beasley or touches from the rb.s?
 
At least he was honest and contrite enough to admit it. Now, let's see if he makes up for it this year.
 
@Frozen700 on a slightly unrelated note, I know they say milk does a body good but damn how much milk is that girl in your sig drinkin?
 
rynochop said:
How many catches do you want him taking from dez, witten, or beasley or touches from the rb.s?
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I don't know. Get open. How many times during the GB game and the regular season in general, did Romo have to hold onto the ball, or settle for forcing it to Dez or the Cole/Witten for short yardage because T-Will couldn't shake his man?

He admitted he took plays off. Bum
 
Frozen700 said:
Everything. You defended him to me, and his #2 title as a WR.

The fact you defended him. and threw stats in my face, like he wasn't a problem, has everything to do with you.
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His production certainly wasn't a "problem." The fact that he could be as productive as he was and make as many big plays as he did while still "taking plays off" speaks to how much more productive he could be as he matures. And maybe so many of his big plays came in our biggest games because his intensity was higher.
 
AdamJT13 said:
His production certainly wasn't a "problem." The fact that he could be as productive as he was and make as many big plays as he did while still "taking plays off" speaks to how much more productive he could be as he matures. And maybe so many of his big plays came in our biggest games because his intensity was higher.
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TWilly just has a lot of odd traits which don't really point to dominant player worthy of #2 status.

From Broaddus today: "3). Heard an interesting explanation from Derek Dooley on why Terrance Williams is a body catcher. Williams’ hands are smaller than most receivers’, and the more that he has had to play in his life, he has had to learn to compensate for them. Dooley works with Williams every day on catching the ball in his hands, but he is not trying to break Williams of this habit. Dooley said there is not a better receiver in this group that gets separation and comes back to the football than Williams -- which allows him to use his body to make catches."

The problem is for all of his separation, he has trouble with high pointing without the confidence with his hands. He did not extend his arms in the Texan game and whiffed on two plays at the goal line. The 3rd and 1 play that Romo threw in the Packer game was an excellent pass by Romo but not to a player who does not physically position himself, contest the highball and pluck from the air. TWilly just kind of fell backward and expected the ball to hit him in the neck. Basically other than the Seahawk catch out of bounds, I can't think of any other impressive catch. He is an odd bird. His first year he caught 44 out of 74 (59%) targets and second year caught 37 out of 64 targets (57%). He has the 13 TDs in two years and gets 16 yard per catch average but he just seems sporadic and limited in physical ability (4.5/40 is really not that fast if the average starting NFL CB runs a 4.45/40).

Seems like maybe his taking plays off points to TWilly being more of a #3 or 4 WR who has more of a limited role but his 3-4 chances per game become potent chunks of yards or TDs at pivotal moments.
 
AdamJT13 said:
His production certainly wasn't a "problem." The fact that he could be as productive as he was and make as many big plays as he did while still "taking plays off" speaks to how much more productive he could be as he matures. And maybe so many of his big plays came in our biggest games because his intensity was higher.
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Yeah I agree. We need him to take it all, and put it together, we can be real deadly with a legit weapon on the outside. A guy who goes hard every play, and eats up 1 on 1 coverage with short, intermediate and deep routes.

If he can't a rather have a guy in who can and will. T-Will can come in when we spread the field in 4 WR sets.
 
Omegasupreme said:
TWilly just has a lot of odd traits which don't really point to dominant player worthy of #2 status.
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You don't need a "dominant" player as your No. 2 receiver when you pass as little as we do and have Bryant and Witten as your main options. You need a guy who can make big plays with limited opportunities, and that's what Williams does very well.

Seems like maybe his taking plays off points to TWilly being more of a #3 or 4 WR who has more of a limited role but his 3-4 chances per game become potent chunks of yards or TDs at pivotal moments.
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Three or four chances per game is just about what our No. 2 receiver gets.
 
Beast_from_East said:
The other problem is that he body catches..................this severely limits his catch radius........................
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FYI from Broaddus today:

"3). Heard an interesting explanation from Derek Dooley on why Terrance Williams is a body catcher. Williams’ hands are smaller than most receivers’, and the more that he has had to play in his life, he has had to learn to compensate for them. Dooley works with Williams every day on catching the ball in his hands, but he is not trying to break Williams of this habit. Dooley said there is not a better receiver in this group that gets separation and comes back to the football than Williams -- which allows him to use his body to make catches."

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2015/06/03/witten-against-jones-takes-top-spot-broaddus’-12-thoughts-otas
 
Proximo said:
LOL

That was one of the best catches made ALL year, by ANY receiver. No receiver is making those types of plays consistently.

I realize T Will leaves a little something to be desired overall, but lets not go nuts here.
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I don't know if you have been keeping up with current events, but TWill being a body catcher is pretty much common knowledge.
 
big dog cowboy said:
FYI from Broaddus today:

"3). Heard an interesting explanation from Derek Dooley on why Terrance Williams is a body catcher. Williams’ hands are smaller than most receivers’, and the more that he has had to play in his life, he has had to learn to compensate for them. Dooley works with Williams every day on catching the ball in his hands, but he is not trying to break Williams of this habit. Dooley said there is not a better receiver in this group that gets separation and comes back to the football than Williams -- which allows him to use his body to make catches."

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2015/06/03/witten-against-jones-takes-top-spot-broaddus’-12-thoughts-otas
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It's good that he is trying to work on it because it does severely limit his catch radius when he has to trap the ball between his hands and his body
 
big dog cowboy said:
FYI from Broaddus today:

"3). Heard an interesting explanation from Derek Dooley on why Terrance Williams is a body catcher. Williams’ hands are smaller than most receivers’, and the more that he has had to play in his life, he has had to learn to compensate for them. Dooley works with Williams every day on catching the ball in his hands, but he is not trying to break Williams of this habit. Dooley said there is not a better receiver in this group that gets separation and comes back to the football than Williams -- which allows him to use his body to make catches."

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2015/06/03/witten-against-jones-takes-top-spot-broaddus’-12-thoughts-otas
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To bad that separation does not translate on field when Romo is dancing in the pocket looking for a WR
 
Galian Beast said:
This could not have come out with better timing.

The egg on their faces must be delicious.
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Agreed

@xwalker where are you? I see you are avoiding this thread like it's some type of plague.

Every time I say anything about T-will you are quick to come to your mans defense, now I don't see you? How ironic. Most of you claimed it was the way the offense is designed, ect ect. What now?

Hahaha, I told you, take those shades off. He was killing himself and he admitted it.
 
Frozen700 said:
He was killing himself and he admitted it.
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And yet, he was still productive and made big plays despite limited opportunities being available. Take away the passes thrown to Bryant and Witten, and there were only 245 targets to go around for all of our other receivers, tight ends and running backs combined -- that is a ridiculously low number and by far the fewest in the NFL. Most teams had more than 300 passes thrown to someone other than their No. 1 receiver and tight end, and six teams had more than 400. Give Williams the same percentage of those targets that he got here, and his per-target stats would prorate to more than 1,000 yards and 13 touchdowns.
 
He was the recipient of probably the top two most exciting plays of the season. But yeak, ok.
 
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