Washington is great example how quickly Cowboys could turn it around

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I agree with this, the money would be available to try and get over the theoretical hump if this team was close. But it is nowhere close! I loved when the front office was aggressive last year to get Cooks and Gilmore. But because of bad contracts and drafting mistakes this team is void of talent. Comparing Detroit and Philadelphia- look at all the contributions they get from players on rookie contracts and in Phillys case the reclamation project (Bectum and Braun) worked out, both contract we could have afforded. If we are honest as fans, this team needs an influx of talent in most positions and is probably not close to competing at a high level no matter what it does this offseason.

out drafting has been bad. seemingly reaches and random picks. specially the past two years.if you look at successful teams, you can always trace it back to a couple of good drafts in a row and the same for bad teams, to a couple of bad drafts in a row. that's where as you said, cheap good players come from that allow you to manage FA and the cap. when you miss, you are screwed. outside of cooper beebee, we really haven't had high contributors from past two drafts. people will say Overshown, but he was injured one year and got injured again. so its partial contribution, which as parcells used to say, a player on injured reserve doesn't help me.

 

[DandyDon52]

I know Jerry won't change, but I believe the opportunity to change will come when Jerry has to retire. He is 82 now. I think his years as a GM are numbered. Maybe he has 3 years. But we could see him step aside, or be forced to step aside sooner.

Dream on lol he has another 8 years at least, and then cap boy will take over !!
Fans need to learn to be content with making playoffs, and maybe a wc win every now and then.
And the HC guys they are looking at is the same quality guys dallas has had since jimmy left. So nothing changing there, just a new face
and another 5 years gone.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I know Jerry won't change, but I believe the opportunity to change will come when Jerry has to retire. He is 82 now. I think his years as a GM are numbered. Maybe he has 3 years. But we could see him step aside, or be forced to step aside sooner.

he won't retire. he is getting attention he wants. he is even more desparate to prove everyone wrong. he said, he is got energy to do it, because "he is going to NY for meetings". we have to wait the al davis route and not sure how many years that will take.

 

[Diehardblues]

why should he? cowboys at 7-10 were 2nd most watched team. highest profitable NFL team and highest valued. tell me why I need to change how I do business? if my top priority is not winning championships, then why does drafting QBs matter?

Of course . But I’m not presenting what he will do but what he should be doing.

 

[DandyDon52]

out drafting has been bad. seemingly reaches and random picks. specially the past two years.if you look at successful teams, you can always trace it back to a couple of good drafts in a row and the same for bad teams, to a couple of bad drafts in a row. that's where as you said, cheap good players come from that allow you to manage FA and the cap. when you miss, you are screwed. outside of cooper beebee, we really haven't had high contributors from past two drafts. people will say Overshown, but he was injured one year and got injured again. so its partial contribution, which as parcells used to say, a player on injured reserve doesn't help me.

Dallas has drafted some good players, the problem has been for every good pick they make 2 bad ones !
And I refer to guys that should not have been drafted, not guys who turn out to be busts to some degree.
Gregory, they wasted a draft pick and years on that clown, Jaylon smith, boss fat the rapper drive by shooter lol,and others,
that only clowns like jerry would waste high picks on and then keep them too long.

They drafted TE twice in 2nd round when they had no need for a TE ! but this is what jerry and his boy do, traded away two 4th round picks,
for players that were not good, and they didnt need ! lol it is insane.

 

[DandyDon52]

he won't retire. he is getting attention he wants. he is even more desparate to prove everyone wrong. he said, he is got energy to do it, because "he is going to NY for meetings". we have to wait the al davis route and not sure how many years that will take.

he has the $$ to outlive all us old timers lol .
I see him going another10 years at least, then we get cap boy for 10, so that is at least 20 years !!
Then charlotte will swoop in and want to give it a try, be the 1st female GM !

 

[DandyDon52]

I will root for Wash, against phil, and maybe in SB if they get there. I liked dan as a DC and wanted him to be the next dallas HC, but
I think jerry promised him to be HC next, then reneged so he left.
If he was to win SB or just get there that will bother jerry a lot, had him on staff, and he let him walk. Chose mike over Quinn, then
wound up firing mike a year after Quinn walks.
Just getting to champ game should bother jerry, as dallas hasnt been to one of those since 96?

 

[KJJ]

no, that is only the result of the changes that needed to happen for washington to succeed. they had had other capable QBs in the past but results were bad. they had had capable coaches and results were bad. what needed to change is the ownership and leadership to bring about a change in culture, get rid of office politics and focus on football. the cultural changes have a bigger impact. when you change a toxic culture, then you bring in people who are capable and let them do their job and provide support. the new ownership has done that. they provided resources and support to the new management, including coaches that put a team together and they started winning. was daniels a big part of it? yes, but under previous ownership, probably end up with a lot of the same and perhaps one year of success with early playoff exit.

people way underestimate the impact of a company culture on its results.

and its way way way way way way too early to say Daniels is going to be better than Mahomes. let him have a few years under his belt before putting the annointing oil.

The only capable QBs they had were RG3 for one season and Cousins who they decided to move on from. After they moved on from Cousins, they never had a winning season until this season. Their QB is what push them over the top. Daniel’s is special and destined for greatness. They’ve never had a QB in their entire history with this kind of talent.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The only capable QBs they had were RG3 for one season and Cousins who they decided to move on from. After they moved on from Cousins, they never had a winning season until this season. Their QB is what push them over the top. Daniel’s is special and destined for greatness.

their cultural change and new management had a bigger part. they put a competitive team together. it wasn't all daniels, although he was an important part of it. people want to make this about daniels vs. dak, vs. goff, etc. its bigger than that. Detroit was the same way. losers for so long, until they changed. they brought a coach and put him in charge and its been better each of the past 3 years.

it takes more than just the QB.

 

[KJJ]

their cultural change and new management had a bigger part.

I totally disagree. They only won four games last season primarily due to their QB situation. Daniels has been the difference. If they had the same QB situation this season they had last year they would have been sitting home for the playoffs once again.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

he has the $$ to outlive all us old timers lol .
I see him going another10 years at least, then we get cap boy for 10, so that is at least 20 years !!
Then charlotte will swoop in and want to give it a try, be the 1st female GM !

so yeah, its sad, but we are going to be like the Cubs....hopefully not suck for 90 years like them.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dallas has drafted some good players, the problem has been for every good pick they make 2 bad ones !
And I refer to guys that should not have been drafted, not guys who turn out to be busts to some degree.
Gregory, they wasted a draft pick and years on that clown, Jaylon smith, boss fat the rapper drive by shooter lol,and others,
that only clowns like jerry would waste high picks on and then keep them too long.

They drafted TE twice in 2nd round when they had no need for a TE ! but this is what jerry and his boy do, traded away two 4th round picks,
for players that were not good, and they didnt need ! lol it is insane.

I wasn't indicating that every pick was bad. but you need great picks specially in middle to low rounds and that sets you apart. we should minimally get a great starter in first, good starters and contributors in 2nd and 3rd and then good depth, and maybe get lucky and find a great player in lower rounds, which then just set you up for success. the problem is we have overshown, beebee, bland, the first rounders have been awful awful awful. 2nd rounders are back ups and the 3rd rounder outside of overshown have been bad. two bad drafts in a row, depletes your team.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Sure. It’s as easy as having a real GM and the 2nd pick in the draft and choosing a QB who has ice in his veins and doesn’t choke like the one this team has had for nine years.

 

[kskboys]

out drafting has been bad. seemingly reaches and random picks. specially the past two years.if you look at successful teams, you can always trace it back to a couple of good drafts in a row and the same for bad teams, to a couple of bad drafts in a row. that's where as you said, cheap good players come from that allow you to manage FA and the cap. when you miss, you are screwed. outside of cooper beebee, we really haven't had high contributors from past two drafts. people will say Overshown, but he was injured one year and got injured again. so its partial contribution, which as parcells used to say, a player on injured reserve doesn't help me.

Yup. Although I do like our last draft, previous to that we'd drafted badly for several years. You just cannot miss so badly in the 2nd/3rd rounds year after year.

 

[kskboys]

Dallas has drafted some good players, the problem has been for every good pick they make 2 bad ones !
And I refer to guys that should not have been drafted, not guys who turn out to be busts to some degree.
Gregory, they wasted a draft pick and years on that clown, Jaylon smith, boss fat the rapper drive by shooter lol,and others,
that only clowns like jerry would waste high picks on and then keep them too long.

They drafted TE twice in 2nd round when they had no need for a TE ! but this is what jerry and his boy do, traded away two 4th round picks,
for players that were not good, and they didnt need ! lol it is insane.

100%.

You can trace our team not being able to take the next step directly to Kelvin/Trysten/Jaylon/Schooner/Sam Williams. Yes, bad picks happen, we all know that. But that's not what we're talking about here. It's consistently not finding contributors in rounds 2-4.

 

[atlantacowboy]

All it took was new ownership, new leadership in FO, coaching and of course insert of talent and top drafted QB.

Lions turned it around as well but it took a couple more years.

Washington’s turn around in one season is the new standard but exemplifies it can be done . But major changes are needed from the top down.

Well, to be fair, they kinda got lucky getting the #2 pick in a draft with Jayden Daniels. Some years you get Zach Wilson at #2. Other years, like 2022, there are no elite QB prospects.

 

[Asklesko]

So all it takes is a new owner, a new head coach, and a new qb. That's not a lot. We're not far away!

 

[Aliencowboy]

All it took was new ownership, new leadership in FO, coaching and of course insert of talent and top drafted QB.

Lions turned it around as well but it took a couple more years.

Washington’s turn around in one season is the new standard but exemplifies it can be done . But major changes are needed from the top down.

Right! Just need the #2 pick to be a rookie breaking QB performer that can run 4.3 and a coach that is a leader of men with coordinators that wont get completely out schemed in quarter one of the divisional playoffs - oh wait we have none of THAT

 

[Risen Star]

Yes, you can do it in a year.

They won't. They won't even try.

 

[kskboys]

The only capable QBs they had were RG3 for one season and Cousins who they decided to move on from. After they moved on from Cousins, they never had a winning season until this season. Their QB is what push them over the top. Daniel’s is special and destined for greatness. They’ve never had a QB in their entire history with this kind of talent.

Sonny Jurgenson and Sammy Baugh were studs. I think what you mean is that they haven't had anyone this good since Theismann in the 80s.