If he maintains his level of play, would you sign Claiborne to Kareem Jacksons contract

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Well, his injuries and surgeries are well documented. It's not like he was faking it or anything. His career began OK until he started to get hurt. I'm willing to bet he didn't plan on being hurt at all.

Last years injury of course was legit, the little nagging type injuries that bother me are the ones that you just need to suck it and play with as well as the drama he put on when he got demoted for just flat out sucking I don't think he should be rewarded a big fat contract because he got healthy (miraculously) and decided to play the best ball of his career that just happens to be in his contract year.
 

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Right now if it came down to Carr or Mo, I'd rather keep Mo. after the first 3 games that would be my pick, but we'll have to see what salaries and cap and all that stuff.
 

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And I want to add that it the best case scenario we get another young cb and Jones and the new young CB would take the place of Mo and Carr.
 

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Right now if it came down to Carr or Mo, I'd rather keep Mo. after the first 3 games that would be my pick, but we'll have to see what salaries and cap and all that stuff.

That is the bad thing. I don't trust Claiborne and I don't want Carr anymore.

I especially don't want to have to draft a cornerback early because if both are gone, you know we will.

C'mon, Byron. You are our only hope.
 

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I hope he continues to play well this season; but I have very little confidence moving forward with him. I would consider a mid-range 2 year contract if he performs well. But I wouldn't go past 2 years. I highly doubt he would accept that though as he'll most likely receive a better offer. I'd much rather burn a top 3 pick on a CB in next year's draft.
 

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3 years 7 mill is all i would do. And give him one of those halloween whoppers ftom burger king w the dyed buns as a signing bonus
 
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No.. Mo is a guy that needs to be motivated. It would be in our best interest as well as his to have a heavy incentive laden type contract with bonuses based on specific performance and actual playing time...

You give him another guaranteed contract and he will slack off again..

Now all of a sudden his career is on the line and he's studying, playing thru some pain, and actually trying to live up to his pedigree..

No more enabling type contracts...

While I agree with the concept, the reality is other than maybe a one year prove it deal players just don't sign these deals very often
I wish all deals were more about incentives and less about bonus money but put yourself in the players shoes
One team is offering a contract loaded with incentives but void of cash up front and another team is throwing 20 million up front at you. What would you do
Love the idea but just rarely happens
 

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If Mo plays at this level for the rest of the season, he's getting a decent contract whether it is here or elsewhere. Looking at the FA CBs going on the market after this season, he'd be the best CB out of the bunch.

Sadly, I think it's more than likely we lose both Carr and Claiborne. Our secondary is going to be a mess next year.
 

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Yeah, I'm not a fan of Patmon. That looking around the field to blame someone while he was in mid-chase was embarrassing. I'm hoping Jones comes on at some point, but I don't think he's going to be ready any time soon.

I'm a big Patmon fan
Is he an elite CB? No, but he is better than last year and that's what I want to see from young developmental players
We won't be able to judge Patmon till he has actually played a season but I'm excited about what he has done so far and if he continues to grow as a player he could be competing for a starting spot next year
 

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It won't take that much.

The guy doesn't have a healthy track record. He's playing through knee soreness already.

That's going to effect what he gets for sure
But cb's get paid if they can play
He's not an elite CB and probably never will be but not many are
It's going to come down to what he does this year and what someone is willing to pay him
My guess is if he plays good enough we would want him back then he is going to get expensive to bring back
 

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That is the bad thing. I don't trust Claiborne and I don't want Carr anymore.

I especially don't want to have to draft a cornerback early because if both are gone, you know we will.

C'mon, Byron. You are our only hope.

I'm beginning to think Bryan is where he is staying s
And that's more of a safety
Say we lose Mo and Carr that leaves us scandrick, Patmon and I think white is a decent player
I think a CB is a real possibility in the draft and while I'm not opposed to drafting a CB I don't like having to draft a CB
And drafting a CB at the end of the first round is a real crap shoot
 

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Say what? Did you watch the game? He was getting beat up all day underneath because of how scared he was to give up the deep ball. He was shredded in the 1st quarter to the point where Patmon even went over to him wondering what the hell he's doing out there playing the wrong coverages. He wasn't shadowing anybody either so stop with this myth that he shut anybody down, let alone Julio Jones and ODB. Those guys could smoke him any day all day if they went up against him 1 on 1.

do you know how this defense works? CBs are supposed to funnel a wr inside to the lbers. claiborne has done a perfect job n anybody he has gone up against this yr. The only way i dont think he isnt a Cowboy for the next 4 yrs is if this team thinks his knees wont hold up
 

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While I agree with the concept, the reality is other than maybe a one year prove it deal players just don't sign these deals very often
I wish all deals were more about incentives and less about bonus money but put yourself in the players shoes
One team is offering a contract loaded with incentives but void of cash up front and another team is throwing 20 million up front at you. What would you do
Love the idea but just rarely happens

Sean Lee comes to mind. There are a few others. That DT from Chicago, can't think of his name was another one. It's usually guys coming off injuries...

Edit: Henry Melton
 

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I really don't want to waste another pick on CB, especially since they are going to take a couple of years to develop. If you think it's bad with Carr and Claiborne, you don't want to see what Beckham and Julio Jones will do against a rookie or some journeyman at cb.
 

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The only CB I'd consider in the draft is Hargreaves. I wouldn't be completely against grabbing a CB in the first if the draft class for CBs was good, it doesn't look that way as of now. Then again, these CBs still have a couple months to make a name for themselves.
 

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Sean Lee comes to mind. There are a few others. That DT from Chicago, can't think of his name was another one. It's usually guys coming off injuries...

Edit: Henry Melton

Very true
Most are guys with some issues
 

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I would be very cautious signing Mo to that kind of contract. Everyone is pulling for guy and he is getting better. But he has two chronic knees (even after surgery) and is huge injury risk. What you have to hope for is continued development of Byron Jones and Scrandrick to return 100%. If Dallas drops more money this off-season it should be for Hardy not Claiborne.
 

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I would be very cautious signing Mo to that kind of contract. Everyone is pulling for guy and he is getting better. But he has two chronic knees (even after surgery) and is huge injury risk. What you have to hope for is continued development of Byron Jones and Scrandrick to return 100%. If Dallas drops more money this off-season it should be for Hardy not Claiborne.

I'm with you. No way I can commit that kind of money to Mo. We have been waiting to be clear or Carr and Claiborne for years and I won't get fooled by a contract year mirage. Keep paying and drafting DEs and lets see if that helps BJones, Oscan, Patmon and CWhite(cheap deal).

We have 18m committed to Carr and Clairborne this year. That can get us Hardy, MIncey, CWhite, McClain and a mid level CB.
 
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