When Romo is healthy should/will he start or Keep Dak as starter **merged**

[BHendri5]

Im the biggest Romo fan there ever was. I just care more about he the Cowboys and the future. "right now" means little to me unless I feel "right now" has a legitimate shot at being great.

No I am the biggest Romo fan

 

[DFWJC]

David Moore had a great write-up on thus topic in the Dallas Morning News today.
Dont have the the kink handy, but if anyony does, its a pretty logical take.

 

[Beast_from_East]

If Dak kees playing the way he has and we have a solid record, they better not bring back Romo. The fans and media would be outraged. I can see it now. "Romo has a rough game 195 passing yards and 2 interceptions, they say he is just rusty and will do better soon"

The future is now. Dak is our guy and he is better than Romo.

If Dak keeps playing the way he has?...........you mean 0 passing TDs?

Yea, can the kid throw a TD before say he is better than Romo? Not dogging Dak, just saying that this talk that he is better than Romo when he has not even thrown a single TD is just hilarious.

Whats next, if Dak beats a Bear's team with half of their starters injured you want to go ahead and put Dak into the Ring of Honor?

 

[ufcrules1]

If Dak keeps playing the way he has?...........you mean 0 passing TDs?

Yea, can the kid throw a TD before say he is better than Romo? Not dogging Dak, just saying that this talk that he is better than Romo when he has not even thrown a single TD is just hilarious.

Whats next, if Dak beats a Bear's team with half of their starters injured you want to go ahead and put Dak into the Ring of Honor?

If we keep winning I don't care how it happens. Heck, he can run in tds for all I care. He had some excellent drives. 95 yard, 75 yard, and more. And equally important, he protects the ball. No interceptions, no strip sacks, etc.
Stats are cute but I like winning. Not hearing stories about players being rusty.

 

[ufcrules1]

Do you like these numbers after 75 passes?

72%-613 YDs, 99.5 rating

Yes. I like long drives, no turnovers, smart football. I care about winning. The thing I like most about the stats you posted is no turnovers.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

If we keep winning I don't care how it happens. Heck, he can run in tds for all I care. He had some excellent drives. 95 yard, 75 yard, and more. And equally important, he protects the ball. No interceptions, no strip sacks, etc.
Stats are cute but I like winning. Not hearing stories about players being rusty.

If we keep winning? We're 3-13 over the last year's worth of games, but 15-4 when Romo plays. You didn't think that one through, junior... not that there's a lot of evidence you are capable of coherent thought.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

If we keep winning I don't care how it happens. Heck, he can run in tds for all I care. He had some excellent drives. 95 yard, 75 yard, and more. And equally important, he protects the ball. No interceptions, no strip sacks, etc.
Stats are cute but I like winning. Not hearing stories about players being rusty.

People forget he should have had 2 TD passes that first game. Winning is all that matters. It doesn't matter how you do it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

yeah you are disconnected, because he can and he will. He has never had, never had a complete team and even now it is not complete but it is as close as he will get to having one his last few years in the NFL. You call it a pipe dream and I say if you think Dak will lead us to any where close this season or even next that is a pipe dream. I believe Dak will do great things, but now, the present is still Romo's

Im not claiming Dak will lead us to anything this year. So how is that Romo pipe dream working out? You cats were claiming Romo would be healthy and take us to the promise land this year. Didnt even make it through preseason.

The funny part is that if Romo has ANY chance of taking us anywhere when he comes back, it will have to be because Dak kept us in the hunt.

 

[CowboyRoy]

yeah you are disconnected, because he can and he will. He has never had, never had a complete team and even now it is not complete but it is as close as he will get to having one his last few years in the NFL. You call it a pipe dream and I say if you think Dak will lead us to any where close this season or even next that is a pipe dream. I believe Dak will do great things, but now, the present is still Romo's

And for you to claim this is something even close to a complete team is beyond laughable. This is the most lopsided, no defense team we have had to date. All offense. Its anything but a complete team.

Romo has had a good line and run game for a couple years now. He has another one this year. But where is he? He never plays. Look to the future and better days. Stop living in the past. Dak is the real deal.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No I am the biggest Romo fan

Ok, I WAS the biggest Romo fan. But the last two years its quite obvious he isnt the same Romo. Cant just say if he is healthy he is 2014 Romo. IF the guy cant get on the field then what good is he? And you really cant say for certain that he will be the same guy as two years ago.

Dak is handling himself very well. Look to the future. Or at least enjoy this last year with Romo.

 

[boysfanindc]

I think this D is as good/bad as it was in 2014, which was good enough to go 12-4 and catch away from beating GB, mainly because we got turnovers and we kept the D off the field because of the running game.

Does it get better then it is now when Lawrence comes back, will Ryan Davis give us anything, will Nzeocha gives us anything and will the D generate turnovers the way it did in 14. We will see, I hope so but we will see.

With Romo on the field (if he can stay on the field) you will not see 8 or 9 in the box, which should significantly help the running game.

I love what Dak is doing at this point in his carrier, absolutely love it, but there is no doubt who is the better QB at this point in time and there is no doubt which QB D's will respect enough to not load the box at this point and time.

I am not sure why these 2 things are mutually exclusive, I for one am ecstatic that we potentially are seeing our future QB and at the same time he is potentially keeping us in the hunt until Romo comes back. So when Romo comes back, opposing D's will have no idea what to do with this O, load the box and Romo will kill you down the field, play coverage and we will run it down your throat.

IMHO, this potentially is the best of both worlds.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think this D is as good/bad as it was in 2014, which was good enough to go 12-4 and catch away from beating GB, mainly because we got turnovers and we kept the D off the field because of the running game.

Does it get better then it is now when Lawrence comes back, will Ryan Davis give us anything, will Nzeocha gives us anything and will the D generate turnovers the way it did in 14. We will see, I hope so but we will see.

With Romo on the field (if he can stay on the field) you will not see 8 or 9 in the box, which should significantly help the running game.

I love what Dak is doing at this point in his carrier, absolutely love it, but there is no doubt who is the better QB at this point in time and there is no doubt which QB D's will respect enough to not load the box at this point and time.

I am not sure why these 2 things are mutually exclusive, I for one am ecstatic that we potentially are seeing our future QB and at the same time he is potentially keeping us in the hunt until Romo comes back. So when Romo comes back, opposing D's will have no idea what to do with this O, load the box and Romo will kill you down the field, play coverage and we will run it down your throat.

IMHO, this potentially is the best of both worlds.

This 2014 thing is just nonsense. It was a completely different set up circumstances and team. That offense was humming with Romo 34 years old, healthy, and Murray was killing it. 8 100 yard games in a row to break the NFL record.

This team has started out NOTHING like that. Way more injuries suspensions, Romo is already broken his back.

 

[Chuck 54]

I'll be honest, I'm not so sure the passing game improves that much behind Romo. Tony takes more chances which result in interceptions. We only have a small sampling from Dak, but Tony also tends to be a little erratic with passes sailing high early in games. However, when Tony returns, the running game will improve significantly...he reads the defense and knows this offense better than anyone. Everyone credits the OL with our running success, but Romo plays a huge part in that. He's a coach on the field who gets us not only out of bad running plays and into pass plays at the line of scrimmage, but he often makes the run game more successful with his blocking calls and audibles and subtle changes at the line.

Dak is not ready for that yet.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think this D is as good/bad as it was in 2014, which was good enough to go 12-4 and catch away from beating GB, mainly because we got turnovers and we kept the D off the field because of the running game.

Does it get better then it is now when Lawrence comes back, will Ryan Davis give us anything, will Nzeocha gives us anything and will the D generate turnovers the way it did in 14. We will see, I hope so but we will see.

With Romo on the field (if he can stay on the field) you will not see 8 or 9 in the box, which should significantly help the running game.

I love what Dak is doing at this point in his carrier, absolutely love it, but there is no doubt who is the better QB at this point in time and there is no doubt which QB D's will respect enough to not load the box at this point and time.

I am not sure why these 2 things are mutually exclusive, I for one am ecstatic that we potentially are seeing our future QB and at the same time he is potentially keeping us in the hunt until Romo comes back. So when Romo comes back, opposing D's will have no idea what to do with this O, load the box and Romo will kill you down the field, play coverage and we will run it down your throat.

IMHO, this potentially is the best of both worlds.

You arent factoring in the angle that teams have no idea how to game plan for Dak. Especially this early. Washington was clearly fooled by all those roll out passes to the TE. And Dak using his legs on the TD was something new as well. This is giving us an advantage.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'll be honest, I'm not so sure the passing game improves that much behind Romo. Tony takes more chances which result in interceptions. We only have a small sampling from Dak, but Tony also tends to be a little erratic with passes sailing high early in games. However, when Tony returns, the running game will improve significantly...he reads the defense and knows this offense better than anyone. Everyone credits the OL with our running success, but Romo plays a huge part in that. He's a coach on the field who gets us not only out of bad running plays and into pass plays at the line of scrimmage, but he often makes the run game more successful with his blocking calls and audibles and subtle changes at the line.

Dak is not ready for that yet.

And the guy is hurt and he cant escape like he used to. Dak is more mobile in the pocket. Just sayin. Good and bad to both.

 

[DFWJC]

 

[boysfanindc]

This 2014 thing is just nonsense. It was a completely different set up circumstances and team. That offense was humming with Romo 34 years old, healthy, and Murray was killing it. 8 100 yard games in a row to break the NFL record.

This team has started out NOTHING like that. Way more injuries suspensions, Romo is already broken his back.

It seems to me it is exactly set up that way in a slightly different way. In 2014 we were winning the TOP battle every game because of the running game, this year we are winning the TOP battle because of a ball control passing game. In 2014 we had a positive turn over ratio as we do this year, in 2014 the D bent but got off the field in key 3rd down situations, seems like that is happening this year.

We will see what Lawrence, Davis and Nzeocha add to the D when they get on the field.

Romo currently has injury that is totally unrelated to his earlier issues, if he can get healthy and get on the field and stay healthy the running game and the vertical passing game are going to take off. If he can't then we have a rookie who seems to be able to play the ball control passing game pretty darn well, but it seems to me that is a harder row to to hoe.

If Romo can get healthy and stay healthy he is far and away the best QB at this point in time. If he can't and it is a question then we have a rook who is playing well.

Actually I like this position, if Romo can stay healthy the O will be explosive both the passing game and running game. If he can't we have a rook that can play, it will just be a different route we have to take.

Regardless it looks like we might have our QB for the future.

 

[Chuck 54]

And the guy is hurt and he cant escape like he used to. Dak is more mobile in the pocket. Just sayin. Good and bad to both.

I absolutely agree, but unless Dak is playing at an extremely high level and has us on a winning streak and in first place, of course we're going back to Romo. I'm telling you, the run game isn't struggling because of Elliott or a lack of respect for Dak. When Romo gets under center, starts making the calls and adjustments, and moving from one run play up the gut to a stretch play because of what he sees, the running game is going to go crazy, and that will open up the passing game even more.

Most rookie QB's, even those who experience success, generally benefit from the big dose of experience on the field, but then when they go to the sideline for a while due to injury or change, they almost always come back better than ever as they see more and learn more from the sideline based on their on field experience. Tony will run the offense more effectively while Dak continues to learn and ask questions about line calls that were made or weren't made, along with what Tony saw that he didn't. Long term, we are fortunate that Dak has had early success (he will need that confidence when things go bad down the road) and that he's getting all this great on the field experience. However, if Romo can just stay healthy for the last half of the season, Dak will learn more from him than from playing in those games. He needs to hear it, see it, and discuss it with one of the masters of running the offense and reading the defense.

It's not about just this season; we all know that this team, even if it makes the playoffs, is extremely unlikely to do much of anything against the top teams. Having Romo return and play at least half the season is going to pay huge dividends for Dak down the road, moreso than if he'd been on the sideline all along with a healthy Romo.

 

[Chuck 54]

If Tony returns and is injured again, we'll still have Dak, but I don't like that scenerio for Dak's development. He needs time on the field, which he is getting, but he also should benefit from learning behind an all pro QB....most rookies don't have that luxury.

 

[boysfanindc]

You arent factoring in the angle that teams have no idea how to game plan for Dak. Especially this early. Washington was clearly fooled by all those roll out passes to the TE. And Dak using his legs on the TD was something new as well. This is giving us an advantage.

As they get more tape professional D coordinators will adjust to what Dak does well, we will see how he reacts to that, I personally think he is a smart guy and eventually will be able to deal with that as well, but he is going to see new wrinkles and there may be some struggles.